OP, the debate only continues because people keep picking it up after it has died. I'm sure for a lot of people Elon must be such a genius for figuring this out (or guessing neither here or there as he is quoted).
But I'm also sure the Nick Szabo guesswork has long been done years ago, and probably even with better evidence and stronger points of argument than this Musk guy.
Topic: Elon Musk guesses who bitcoin's mysterious creator Satoshi Nakamoto is - page 3. (Read 651 times)
December 31, 2021, 06:16:00 AM
December 31, 2021, 05:49:10 AM
The debate continues...
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
Thank god, Elon Musk did not claim himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto. You can expect anything from his tweets.
I have stopped following his tweets and words ever since he has started promoting DogeCoin. I don't believe in Elon musk guesses for Satoshi Nakamoto. No one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Maybe later on he will claim just to be on the spot light when maybe most of his mars plans will be a failure. To gather audience and fame again, he needs a better news and surely say he is Satoshi Nakamoto. This Mars guy is way too much to gain attention, I love his creation, Tesla cars but his personality is the problem. I know this is guys have money and power but never been as good as Nick.
December 31, 2021, 05:10:19 AM
If they're right about satoshi nakamoto identity, then what? is there a reward? Because who cares to be honest wherein if satoshi don't want to display his real identity even bitcoin nowadays is so popular and very successful. It's his choice to become anonymous forever so much better to don't bother him anymore. And just be thankful that he bring bitcoin to us.. Lol
December 31, 2021, 04:06:08 AM
it's just an assumption from Elon, even though it's true that Mr. Szabo is Satoshi, he has to prove it himself to be valid.
btw. I really like Elon's way of joking, even though it's getting less and less funny
btw. I really like Elon's way of joking, even though it's getting less and less funny
December 31, 2021, 03:55:15 AM
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these.
I seriously doubt that. If he did consult anybody half smart in bitcoin community they would have told him to stop repeating the same old arguments that were made many years ago about a pointless topic.He just seeks more attention and what better topic for attention these days than the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto specially since these days the Scammer Wright made a headline or two.
December 31, 2021, 03:53:20 AM
There were speculation regarding Nick Szabo about being the original creator of bitcoin like his previous work if bitgold but later on he himself denied the facts and there are many other reasons for which he was in the list of that could be Satoshi but are not
Satoshi was very smart. Before the Genesis Block, he was already taking those extra, subtle steps to mislead people, and to cause everyone to hypothesize who he truly was, taking them far away from the truth. For me, Satoshi was Hal Finney.
December 31, 2021, 03:36:15 AM
What people don’t realize is that Mr. Mars needs to be always in the media and he’s addicted to it, and now apparently in the absence of some better topic he’s started speculating about who Satoshi Nakamoto might be. The fact is that he knows nothing but what he has read, and he himself admits that some basic things are not clear to him - which does not make him as intelligent a person as many consider him.
This is exactly what i believe and has mentioned same in my post also :Elon Musk is more famous as Clown musk now because all of his useless twets and he is now becoming like those celebrities who always want publicity but all the btc maximalist hates him due to his fake talks.Like recently he tweeted that Nick Szabo could be Satoshi Nakamoto in recent statement which aroused another Twitter sensation and debate among users.
The same thing happened when he accepted to come at btc discussion among Jack and Cathie wood on Bitcoin event to have a conversation on which we saw he was wearing bitcoin evolution t-shirt and then supporting it also.Then he planned his regular games of tweeting about doge and some other coins to pump and dump scheme for his own personal benefits.I also ignore him as much I can but to some extent also learn what the shit is he posting on twitter to make people on his side but his magic wond has lost it's power with the world realising his manipulation game.There is one thing which we need to understand deeply :
There were speculation regarding Nick Szabo about being the original creator of bitcoin like his previous work if bitgold but later on he himself denied the facts and there are many other reasons for which he was in the list of that could be Satoshi but are not
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“As I’ve stated many times before, all this speculation is flattering, but wrong — I am not Satoshi.”
I also opened a thread about the same topic and then Clown musk is spreading rumours to the fools who might have his word and we see it again hyping this trend.
A meme worth understanding...
We all are Satoshi and we don't need to find the real one at last.
December 31, 2021, 01:45:10 AM
The debate continues...
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
Nick Szabo has always been the leading candidate, but after I learned that he had a talk on stage in an Ethereum conference, I don’t think Satoshi would be that stupid.
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Its been claimed linguistic analysis of bitcoin whitepapers best match Nick Szabo's writing style. But I don't remember specifics or examples being cited. Does anyone know which specific words or phrases were claimed to link Nick Szabo's writing style to any of the whitepapers authored by Satoshi Nakamoto?
Satoshi did extra steps to hide his real identity. He programmed in Windows, probably changed the way he coded too. He was also known to use English expressions as if he was English. He wanted people to believe he was also Adam Back perhaps?
December 30, 2021, 04:47:23 PM
I do remember that there was one discussion here in this forum about Satoshi and Nick Szabo's writing style, and there were some examples too, but the post got flooded by 'skeptics' easily which led me to believe that maybe it is too far fetched for someone as genius as Satoshi to pin someone as the creator of bitcoin since that would be giving that someone some form of 'authority' over bitcoin, which he so despises.
Perhaps Elon could just go back to building rockets instead of using the media to gain attention once more. But at least his guess is somewhat sensible, so there's that.
Gaining or Getting attention is what i do believe on what he had been doing these things and we know that as long he do retains his exposure and awareness then that automatically Perhaps Elon could just go back to building rockets instead of using the media to gain attention once more. But at least his guess is somewhat sensible, so there's that.
markets out his company and investments that he do have which is quite a wise thing to be done which it isnt really that surprising for that kind of motive or intent
on mind.
Speaking of breaking those mysteries on whose Satoshi is then this is the most hardest thing and i dont believe that this would be easily be cracked out.
We have seen lots of those self proclaimed satoshis and other investigations but all of those arent still get proved out.
December 30, 2021, 04:13:52 PM
I do remember that there was one discussion here in this forum about Satoshi and Nick Szabo's writing style, and there were some examples too, but the post got flooded by 'skeptics' easily which led me to believe that maybe it is too far fetched for someone as genius as Satoshi to pin someone as the creator of bitcoin since that would be giving that someone some form of 'authority' over bitcoin, which he so despises.
Perhaps Elon could just go back to building rockets instead of using the media to gain attention once more. But at least his guess is somewhat sensible, so there's that.
Perhaps Elon could just go back to building rockets instead of using the media to gain attention once more. But at least his guess is somewhat sensible, so there's that.
December 30, 2021, 04:06:13 PM
Its been claimed linguistic analysis of bitcoin whitepapers best match Nick Szabo's writing style. But I don't remember specifics or examples being cited. Does anyone know which specific words or phrases were claimed to link Nick Szabo's writing style to any of the whitepapers authored by Satoshi Nakamoto?
Only SN (Satoshi Nakamoto) and NS (Nick Szabo), maybe that's a match. Lol
This makes me think hard and try to find information, even though I'm always not interested in people who claim or are accused of being Satoshi. Because in my eyes Satoshi will still not appear on the surface. That's the principle I hold on to. However, out of curiosity I just surfed the internet and read some articles. Whether what I read is valid or not, at least I know what people are referring to. Regarding the compatibility that experts say between the Bitcoin Whitepapers and the smart contract article Nick Szabo published.
I pondered for a long time and became more and more interested in going through each article referenced. Until Nick's article https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/548/469 then I didn't continue. Because I admit my capacity is not enough to study one article in a short time.
December 30, 2021, 03:59:33 PM
One thing is for sure. The Pseudomonous nature or Satoshi Nakamoto have sustained even when bitcoin ment nothing to nobody and how about now that it means something, it means, even those should there be any who bare truth and would have been willing to tell a tale would keep all ends closed and tied. There would be no knowing who Satoshi Nakamoto is no matter how hard they try.
Musk is just doing what he loves doing best, that is, staying in the media and making money where he could find it. Don't pay too much attention to garbage.
Even we do say that we shouldnt really pay attention but people or community around couldnt really just resists on not to make out any reactions or even do believe on what Musk is shitting out from his mouth. Musk is just doing what he loves doing best, that is, staying in the media and making money where he could find it. Don't pay too much attention to garbage.
December 30, 2021, 03:57:39 PM
One thing is for sure. The Pseudomonous nature or Satoshi Nakamoto have sustained even when bitcoin ment nothing to nobody and how about now that it means something, it means, even those should there be any who bare truth and would have been willing to tell a tale would keep all ends closed and tied. There would be no knowing who Satoshi Nakamoto is no matter how hard they try.
Musk is just doing what he loves doing best, that is, staying in the media and making money where he could find it. Don't pay too much attention to garbage.
Musk is just doing what he loves doing best, that is, staying in the media and making money where he could find it. Don't pay too much attention to garbage.
December 30, 2021, 03:29:46 PM
The debate continues...
Satoshi posted here on bitcointalk.org ~600 times. All these post have a timestamp. And for all proposed candidates to be Satoshi, we can find a post where the timestamp doesn't match the activity of the candidate. For example: Satoshi posted on X/Y/2010 12:00 UTC, but the candidate was at that time on a flight. All posts/candidates are checked.
December 30, 2021, 03:26:21 PM
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
No matter how smart his pool may be, it will never be able to compete with people who take this question as seriously as a full job and have done a lot and lot investigating, even followed every lead and clue available.
I remember few years ago, there was a rumor that the NSA would have been discovered Satoshi's true identity !
About CSW, the reports circulating on the case are never very clear !
If it's really him Satoshi, understand: if he go proof to everyone that's really is him, like with signing a message like Vitalik suggested, it will be his death warrant in a way !
December 30, 2021, 03:02:53 PM
The debate continues...
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
Its been claimed linguistic analysis of bitcoin whitepapers best match Nick Szabo's writing style. But I don't remember specifics or examples being cited. Does anyone know which specific words or phrases were claimed to link Nick Szabo's writing style to any of the whitepapers authored by Satoshi Nakamoto?
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
Its been claimed linguistic analysis of bitcoin whitepapers best match Nick Szabo's writing style. But I don't remember specifics or examples being cited. Does anyone know which specific words or phrases were claimed to link Nick Szabo's writing style to any of the whitepapers authored by Satoshi Nakamoto?
Just according to the writing style alone we can't say Nick Szabo is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. There are still some things that we have to investigate such as the email that Satoshi used when he was still active in communicating via the internet. We have to ask more about Bitcoin to Nick Szabo if he understands and can explain the ins and outs of Bitcoin in the past until now, if he manages to prove not everything then he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
December 30, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
Actually I read this article a few days ago and was waiting for this thread to be on the forums because for me it would be really exciting.
The debate about who satoshi is currently still going on and hot enough to watch and witness
But on the other hand, debates like this will only lead to speculation. Anyone who argues about it is still only speculation and there is no clarity on what will happen next.
Satoshi probably laughed and was quite happy to see that he is still very mysterious and remains anonymous
The debate about who satoshi is currently still going on and hot enough to watch and witness
But on the other hand, debates like this will only lead to speculation. Anyone who argues about it is still only speculation and there is no clarity on what will happen next.
Satoshi probably laughed and was quite happy to see that he is still very mysterious and remains anonymous
December 30, 2021, 01:51:47 PM
I personally always thought Adam Back was Satoshi. There are an insane amount of similarities between the two.
Adam hasn't even tried to claim that he was. I was going to do a large write-up on what I thought but it seems this has been debated before on this forum and was not received well at all.
Adam hasn't even tried to claim that he was. I was going to do a large write-up on what I thought but it seems this has been debated before on this forum and was not received well at all.
December 30, 2021, 01:47:10 PM
The debate continues...
Elon Musk appears to have a pool of smart people he works with to discuss topics like these. It appears Nick Szabo is the leading candidate in their upper tier of their intelligentsia. If it is Nick Szabo he must be one of those who avoids media attention and the spotlight. In contrast to the Craig Wright's of the world, Szabo tends to keep a low profile.
Thank god, Elon Musk did not claim himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto. You can expect anything from his tweets.
I have stopped following his tweets and words ever since he has started promoting DogeCoin. I don't believe in Elon musk guesses for Satoshi Nakamoto. No one knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
December 30, 2021, 01:41:15 PM
A part of me somewhat thinks that Elon does not really mean most of the things he says as regards Bitcoin, but just does it so as to remain relevant in the network, and maybe sometimes cause manipulation, if you understand this whole scenario about who Satoshi is, you'll understand that actual Bitcoin users do not really care too much about who Satoshi is, not that they would not like to know, but just being in the network and benefiting from Satoshi's creation outweighs their desire to actually know who the creator is. But on the other hand, it's people who have openly said negative things about the network and do not actually believe in it that are so much concerned about who Satoshi is and are even trying to impersonate Satoshi.
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