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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
May 01, 2016, 07:16:48 PM
#36
Just haven't had a lot of news to update really and I don't want to post just to post.  On a side note I am in contact with the Bitfury ASIC supplier weekly and as of last Monday chips were still a no go
Really glad to hear from you again! Also glad that mining is still in the cards for you (sans Avalon).

Very glad you are still pursuing the ephemeral BitFury chips. Also for reasons I've previously expressed about TSMC and 16nm chip production, not surprised on the lack of movement. But - we should be getting close.

I do hope so.  Would be nice to chips and a custom build.
legendary
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May 01, 2016, 06:43:57 PM
#35
Just haven't had a lot of news to update really and I don't want to post just to post.  On a side note I am in contact with the Bitfury ASIC supplier weekly and as of last Monday chips were still a no go
Really glad to hear from you again! Also glad that mining is still in the cards for you (sans Avalon).

Very glad you are still pursuing the ephemeral BitFury chips. Also for reasons I've previously expressed about TSMC and 16nm chip production, not surprised on the lack of movement. But - we should be getting close.
legendary
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May 01, 2016, 06:20:45 PM
#34
Hope to see the next gen miner before end of july. Bitfury, Bitmain or Avalon ?? Cant wait to see.  Grin
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
May 01, 2016, 01:06:44 PM
#33
thanks for update kilo.

 Sad about the avalon issues.

It has become really hard with so few asic chips available to get any one to sell them.
legendary
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aka "whocares"
May 01, 2016, 02:06:20 AM
#32
Just haven't had a lot of news to update really and I don't want to post just to post.  On a side note I am in contact with the Bitfury ASIC supplier weekly and as of last Monday chips were still a no go
legendary
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May 01, 2016, 02:03:49 AM
#31
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

That is a true statement- but I am only out temporarily while waiting on the chips to come out  Wink
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
April 29, 2016, 11:38:25 PM
#30
Yeah, that chip deal was in the works since at least February. He wanted a certain number of dead boards for a project he and I were working on together (which morphed into the community design), and they actually promised to send him about twice as many as he wanted. Which was not a bad thing. And apparently kept dragging their feet for weeks and then bailed entirely. If anyone's wondering why I didn't have progress on an Avalon-based system weeks ago, that's a pretty substantial contributing factor.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 29, 2016, 09:04:54 PM
#29
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

I wish I had known this. If it were posted I must have missed it.

I missed it to, I'm surprised he is out of the game.   Would not have seen that coming.    Do you have a link to this happening?  

Just would kinda like to see the post's as I missed them.  Thanks for posting though as I was clueless of this.
My info on it came from Sidehack a month or so ago when in a pm on the Community miner I offhandedly mentioned that Kilo had dropped off of CKpool a couple weeks earlier. Aside from that there is kilo's last post to the Forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14495583

For his part, I'd guess that kilo took a professional approach to that cold slap in the face and after selling off his hardware (and hopefully getting back the monies he had already given them for chips) just dropped the matter and left the BTC scene without ranting about it here and prolonging the burn.

 I haven't seen hide nor hair of him since even on Skype where he and I were talking a lot about the Avalon6 project Sad

 It's been indirectly brought up in other threads regarding regarding Avlons amd BlockC by myself and sidehack as well.

That is a shame as kilo was and is a solid person.
Yet another sign that I would prefer be pointed in the exact opposite direction.


Too bad that happened I truly liked him.
legendary
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April 29, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
#28
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

I wish I had known this. If it were posted I must have missed it.

I missed it to, I'm surprised he is out of the game.   Would not have seen that coming.    Do you have a link to this happening?  

Just would kinda like to see the post's as I missed them.  Thanks for posting though as I was clueless of this.
My info on it came from Sidehack a month or so ago when in a pm on the Community miner I offhandedly mentioned that Kilo had dropped off of CKpool a couple weeks earlier. Aside from that there is kilo's last post to the Forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14495583

For his part, I'd guess that kilo took a professional approach to that cold slap in the face and after selling off his hardware (and hopefully getting back the monies he had already given them for chips) just dropped the matter and left the BTC scene without ranting about it here and prolonging the burn.

 I haven't seen hide nor hair of him since even on Skype where he and I were talking a lot about the Avalon6 project Sad

 It's been indirectly brought up in other threads regarding regarding Avlons amd BlockC by myself and sidehack as well.
legendary
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April 29, 2016, 04:12:28 PM
#27
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

I wish I had known this. If it were posted I must have missed it.

I missed it to, I'm surprised he is out of the game.   Would not have seen that coming.    Do you have a link to this happening? 

Just would kinda like to see the post's as I missed them.  Thanks for posting though as I was clueless of this.
legendary
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April 29, 2016, 03:03:00 PM
#26
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

WoW  Cry
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
April 29, 2016, 02:53:21 PM
#25
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.

I wish I had known this. If it were posted I must have missed it.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
April 29, 2016, 02:16:52 PM
#24
On glitch in doing a group buy is that kilo17 is out of the BTC game. BlockC really screwed him over when they backed out of his Avalon6 chips deal with them. Within days of that he sold off his 300TH farm mostly hosted by BlockC and told them to get stuffed.
legendary
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April 29, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
#23
Only time will tell but it sure is encouraging.

What I like is this

 16nm SHA-256 mining chips for everybody!

I do believe that we can count on that, i dc if they have it now as long we get it with a lot of good use left.
legendary
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April 29, 2016, 12:11:48 PM
#22
I hope Avalon has been working on a 16nm chip longer than a month or two, or they're going to be VERY late to market with it.

 The announcement they made that they weren't GOING to work on one for a while as of the release of the A6 was a very bad sign for their timing......



Ah  you can't believe them as Avalon, Bitfury,

Bitmaintech  all do a lot of bluffing as to where they are at.

Bitfury showed us a 14/16 size chip  nice demo  so where the fuck is it?

I don't know.

Bitmaintech says zip.

So I don't know.

Avalon said we are not making one yet. Now they say they are making one.


Here is the deal.

If any company above has them made right now and keeps very quiet about them.

They can simply replace all their older gear. Not raising the hash rate a lot.

I have 10,000 s-7's  at 4.7th = 47ph burning  13,000 kwatts

I put in 10,000 s-9  at 6th = 60ph burning      7,200 kwatts

So hashrate stays stabile  not much gain  and  spend  5800 kwatts less.

plus bargin sell my paid for old s-7's  or my paid for avalon 6's

So all three companies could have a lot of running .10 watt gear or none of the companies or one of the companies.

Being secret right now with ½ ing coming is to their advantage.

We get to watch a high stakes game between them.  Plus  while they keep hahs rate stabile we make a little coin.

I could believe that 400 or 600 ph right now is all next gen. mining as I type.

Or under 10 ph is next gen mining as I type.

I still have to mention I also got the email from Avalon and if  blockC wants me to do a group buy for them in the future I will do it.





this time i might try to get in that group buy if you do !!! or try to  for at least 2 miners , i do like Avalon stuff much better after owning just one A4.1 wish i had bought them back then instead of S5. power is not a problem  or won't be i applied for a lower rate @ 0.26 lower per kwh then what i have now for the next 19 months which if a lower plan comes a long which is very likely in my state, i can drop this plan for it with no cancellation fees, .+ the way it looks by June, I'll be solar. They told me today the planing is over some time next week i should get a email with the final plans to be approved my me then it's a long wait on the state for permits.
sr. member
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April 29, 2016, 09:53:52 AM
#21
Only time will tell but it sure is encouraging.
legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
April 29, 2016, 08:37:48 AM
#20
I hope Avalon has been working on a 16nm chip longer than a month or two, or they're going to be VERY late to market with it.

 The announcement they made that they weren't GOING to work on one for a while as of the release of the A6 was a very bad sign for their timing......



Ah  you can't believe them as Avalon, Bitfury,

Bitmaintech  all do a lot of bluffing as to where they are at.

Bitfury showed us a 14/16 size chip  nice demo  so where the fuck is it?

I don't know.

Bitmaintech says zip.

So I don't know.

Avalon said we are not making one yet. Now they say they are making one.


Here is the deal.

If any company above has them made right now and keeps very quiet about them.

They can simply replace all their older gear. Not raising the hash rate a lot.

I have 10,000 s-7's  at 4.7th = 47ph burning  13,000 kwatts

I put in 10,000 s-9  at 6th = 60ph burning      7,200 kwatts

So hashrate stays stabile  not much gain  and  spend  5800 kwatts less.

plus bargin sell my paid for old s-7's  or my paid for avalon 6's

So all three companies could have a lot of running .10 watt gear or none of the companies or one of the companies.

Being secret right now with ½ ing coming is to their advantage.

We get to watch a high stakes game between them.  Plus  while they keep hahs rate stabile we make a little coin.

I could believe that 400 or 600 ph right now is all next gen. mining as I type.

Or under 10 ph is next gen mining as I type.

I still have to mention I also got the email from Avalon and if  blockC wants me to do a group buy for them in the future I will do it.



legendary
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April 29, 2016, 02:30:37 AM
#19
I hope Avalon has been working on a 16nm chip longer than a month or two, or they're going to be VERY late to market with it.

 The announcement they made that they weren't GOING to work on one for a while as of the release of the A6 was a very bad sign for their timing......

legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 28, 2016, 05:44:39 PM
#18
I never speculated on who started the price war. Just that Spondoolies lost, because the S5 ended up selling so much cheaper than an SP20. The SP20 was such an ungodly complex machine, I wouldn't be surprised if just the parts cost was higher than the S5's sales price by the end. Their design greatly increased the features and flexibility compared to the S5, but they crippled themselves on efficiency and cost-effectiveness.

Most of the people I heard complain about wanting to buy the 4.1 didn't complain about the price so much as the shipping cost from China. Maybe we were reading different posts, but the consensus I gathered was if Avalon had a North America distributor that didn't add on the order of $100 per unit to ship, there would have been a lot of sales. I'd have probably bought one, and I didn't buy anything last gen.

If they did a deal with blockC  for the avalon 4.1 it would have sold well.

forgetting price  I would rank the 4.1 as the best of the three.

4.1 was almost silent it was a truly great miner, I loved it so much I started with 1 and ended up getting 2 more for a set of 3.  Price was a little harder to justify, but I liked it being silent at that time I was mining in room's in my house before my mining area.  So was worth it to me.

The good new's is they seems to have kept up more with Bitmain pricing with Avalon 6 then then did with Avalon 4.1.  So assuming a new machine and they compete with bitmain it should be in the same ball park (hopefully).

But it's really hard to say as so much is unknown.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
April 28, 2016, 04:59:13 PM
#17
It was the only one of the three I considered buying at the time.
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