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Etlase2

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Quote from: eCoinomist on July 23, 2013, 04:55:57 PM

I'm not sure about other members in eMunie forum (which you like to call "ass kissing" people), but I sure was the first one to question the legitimacy of eMunie system.
http://forum.emunie.com/threads/emunie-hoarding.11/

The posts that say "etlase2" next to them are the ones that I write, not any others. I used the word sycophant.

Questioning the legitimacy of a poorly designed monetary system is secondary to scalability and security issues. Hell, it's tertiary. Mistakes like these:

"As [interest is] also capped at 1EMU [per account],"

Are not critical vulnerabilities, but they suggest a lack of true game theory design development. Not a good sign combined with the fact that we don't even have any details on how basic transactions work.

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@mechs, don't worry, I'm sure some people are just having fun here!

No serious investors would be lurking around this forum.

But I agree about your point. I tried to talk sense to these people, but it did not work, so let's just have fun with them lol.

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Quote from: eCoinomist on July 23, 2013, 04:55:57 PM

Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 04:02:22 PM

The problem is when emotions get in the way of common sense. This silliness that the dev can do no wrong is very reminiscent of SolidCoin during its initial...

I'm not sure about other members in eMunie forum (which you like to call "ass kissing" people), but I sure was the first one to question the legitimacy of eMunie system.
http://forum.emunie.com/threads/emunie-hoarding.11/

And surely I did not have to kiss anyone's ass to get a founder status, I simply signed up and got it within a day without asking. If you believe it's all about kissing asses, then keep thinking so, I don't care what you think of me Wink

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

According to the public forum the founders have yet to be decided. I stopped reading there regularly weeks ago after I got tired of Ecoinomist's thinly veiled 'I am a founder in the making and only those who make amazing contributions like me maybe deemed worthy of becoming one' posts on a daily basis. Well done Ecoinomist with what in my opinion looks like a shitty Internet Explorer logo ripoff.

I hear you want free lunch, good on you, go get some XPM with my guide, why bother with EMU? No one makes you!
PS. I stopped making posts for a week now because of work, don't quite get where your "daily basis" is coming from.

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

I'm sure I could become a founder myself if I beta tested more and kissed ass in the chatbox every night but some negative experiences there have put me off the community and I am pursuing my own projects now.

You mention negative experiences, but fail to mention specifically what is negative, so until you clarify that I shall assume it's just another trolling attempt.

You guys really should just stop posting here. You come off as a bunch of jackasses and if this is the PR you are doing for this eMunie project, it would be better served with your silence.

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 04:02:22 PM

The problem is when emotions get in the way of common sense. This silliness that the dev can do no wrong is very reminiscent of SolidCoin during its initial...

I'm not sure about other members in eMunie forum (which you like to call "ass kissing" people), but I sure was the first one to question the legitimacy of eMunie system.
http://forum.emunie.com/threads/emunie-hoarding.11/

And surely I did not have to kiss anyone's ass to get a founder status, I simply signed up and got it within a day without asking. If you believe it's all about kissing asses, then keep thinking so, I don't care what you think of me Wink

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

According to the public forum the founders have yet to be decided. I stopped reading there regularly weeks ago after I got tired of Ecoinomist's thinly veiled 'I am a founder in the making and only those who make amazing contributions like me maybe deemed worthy of becoming one' posts on a daily basis. Well done Ecoinomist with what in my opinion looks like a shitty Internet Explorer logo ripoff.

I hear you want free lunch, good on you, go get some XPM with my guide, why bother with EMU? No one makes you!
PS. I stopped making posts for a week now because of work, don't quite get where your "daily basis" is coming from.
As for the logo, I'd love to see your face when the special "e" dollar sign gets made in keyboards 20 years from now. (there are already keyboards with "e" browser symbol)

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

I'm sure I could become a founder myself if I beta tested more and kissed ass in the chatbox every night but some negative experiences there have put me off the community and I am pursuing my own projects now.

You mention negative experiences, but fail to mention specifically what is negative, so until you clarify that I shall assume it's just another trolling attempt.

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Quote from: JohnyBigs on July 23, 2013, 04:25:59 PM

Yes compare the SolidCoin dev, to a dev who was created a technology like NFC,

Created NFC? Not according to the horse's mouth. But subtleties tend to be lost on mouth breathers. And when video games and near field communication apps are in the same universe as a distributed currency network, let me know.

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again it seems all of you guys seem butthurt that fuserleer is actually getting shit done while you circle jerk each other off.

Oh look, ad hominems in lieu of any whit of valuable discussion. Such progress.

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Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

Quote from: billotronic on July 23, 2013, 02:51:54 PM

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 02:29:20 PM

Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

The entire emunie forum is full of people kissing ass hoping to get crowned 'founder' status by Dan so they get given some of the pre-mined coins.

Actually, the founders have pretty much been established... they were pretty lucky recruiting such a fine group of reliable people for beta testing.

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

According to the public forum the founders have yet to be decided. I stopped reading there regularly weeks ago after I got tired of Ecoinomist's thinly veiled 'I am a founder in the making and only those who make amazing contributions like me maybe deemed worthy of becoming one' posts on a daily basis. Well done Ecoinomist with what in my opinion looks like a shitty Internet Explorer logo ripoff.

I'm sure I could become a founder myself if I beta tested more and kissed ass in the chatbox every night but some negative experiences there have put me off the community and I am pursuing my own projects now.

Actually, I was invited to beta signed for the forum, and instantly made a founder with zero ass kissing or beta testing, as were most of the first people who accepted and signed up. If having a founders badge is the most important thing to some people than all hope is lost haha.

Yes compare the SolidCoin dev, to a dev who was created a technology like NFC, again it seems all of you guys seem butthurt that fuserleer is actually getting shit done while you circle jerk each other off. Ohh there is not enough info about this and that, wait for the white paper to come out, but I'm pretty sure there won't be enough info then too. When it's open source, I'm sure you'll all complain about something else also haha.

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Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 04:08:23 PM

Quote from: billotronic on July 23, 2013, 02:51:54 PM

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 02:29:20 PM

Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

The entire emunie forum is full of people kissing ass hoping to get crowned 'founder' status by Dan so they get given some of the pre-mined coins.

Actually, the founders have pretty much been established... they were pretty lucky recruiting such a fine group of reliable people for beta testing.

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

According to the public forum the founders have yet to be decided. I stopped reading there regularly weeks ago after I got tired of Ecoinomist's thinly veiled 'I am a founder in the making and only those who make amazing contributions like me maybe deemed worthy of becoming one' posts on a daily basis. Well done Ecoinomist with what in my opinion looks like a shitty Internet Explorer logo ripoff.

I'm sure I could become a founder myself if I beta tested more and kissed ass in the chatbox every night but some negative experiences there have put me off the community and I am pursuing my own projects now.

Well the big issue with the founders is that a lot of people have the tag but do not participate. Discussions about that (both on the forum and troll box) were mainly about how to weed out those who didn't help the project and to reward newer members who are busting their asses trying to help.

Please, pm me (here or there). I am curious on what your negative experiences were.

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 04:02:22 PM

Quote from: billotronic on July 23, 2013, 02:51:54 PM

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

The problem is when emotions get in the way of common sense. This silliness that the dev can do no wrong is very reminiscent of SolidCoin during its initial (closed source, totally controlled) phases. Although most of you folks were probably not around for that. And guess what, SolidCoin still has about the same 10 users it had 2 years ago.

Fuserleer has had mistakes and misconceptions on some very basic concepts and has revised what emunie "does" as a result. I am not faulting him for that, but to pretend that this project can be released successfully without any analysis even on the basic ideas or letting people know how it works is asinine. Because right now there is no explanation for how anything works. This needs to be corrected toute de suite. Otherwise it just looks like another attempt to sucker in some people to the benefit of the early adoption pump n dump.

I smell what you are stepping in and I am not knowledgeable enough to provide you the answers you are looking for.

An opinion though would be that as our testing has progressed, the mechanics behind the scenes has progressed also. It might be hard to give out minute details about a function if that function is re-written a week later or three times a day till its right etc etc. Then again, I am no coder, just a tester. All I can vouch for with certainty is the progression of the client we are testing and its features set.

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Quote from: billotronic on July 23, 2013, 02:51:54 PM

Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 02:29:20 PM

Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

The entire emunie forum is full of people kissing ass hoping to get crowned 'founder' status by Dan so they get given some of the pre-mined coins.

Actually, the founders have pretty much been established... they were pretty lucky recruiting such a fine group of reliable people for beta testing.

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

According to the public forum the founders have yet to be decided. I stopped reading there regularly weeks ago after I got tired of Ecoinomist's thinly veiled 'I am a founder in the making and only those who make amazing contributions like me maybe deemed worthy of becoming one' posts on a daily basis. Well done Ecoinomist with what in my opinion looks like a shitty Internet Explorer logo ripoff.

I'm sure I could become a founder myself if I beta tested more and kissed ass in the chatbox every night but some negative experiences there have put me off the community and I am pursuing my own projects now.

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Quote from: eCoinomist on July 23, 2013, 12:12:42 PM

Lohoris, I thought you already said not to talk to me until next year?

Uh?
I told you to go away and come back in a year...

Quote from: eCoinomist on July 23, 2013, 12:12:42 PM

Meanwhile, if you have nothing else to do, I suggest you go get your Lohores or toy yourself, please Wink

So now for lack of arguments, your strategy is now childish insults?
How lol?
Srsly?

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Quote from: billotronic on July 23, 2013, 02:51:54 PM

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

The problem is when emotions get in the way of common sense. This silliness that the dev can do no wrong is very reminiscent of SolidCoin during its initial (closed source, totally controlled) phases. Although most of you folks were probably not around for that. And guess what, SolidCoin still has about the same 10 users it had 2 years ago.

Fuserleer has had mistakes and misconceptions on some very basic concepts and has revised what emunie "does" as a result. I am not faulting him for that, but to pretend that this project can be released successfully without any analysis even on the basic ideas or letting people know how it works is asinine. Because right now there is no explanation for how anything works. This needs to be corrected toute de suite. Otherwise it just looks like another attempt to sucker in some people to the benefit of the early adoption pump n dump.

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Quote from: mr_random on July 23, 2013, 02:29:20 PM

Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

The entire emunie forum is full of people kissing ass hoping to get crowned 'founder' status by Dan so they get given some of the pre-mined coins.

Actually, the founders have pretty much been established... they were pretty lucky recruiting such a fine group of reliable people for beta testing.

Course, if you are referring to people actually liking the dev, well then shame on us for being humans capable of emotions.

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

The entire emunie forum is full of people kissing ass hoping to get crowned 'founder' status by Dan so they get given some of the pre-mined coins.

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

Dan does need to waste his time talking to people like me who can actually provide attacks, vulnerabilities, and feedback. Dan is not some infallible god...

ROFL

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:15:12 PM

...so anything you say is completely and absolutely ignorable.

Uhm... you don't seem to ignore me at all, even calling me detrimental, that's a little strange!

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Dan needs to learn how "ooh forks are fine" does not do anything to solve the double spending problem. You need to learn how to get a clue besides knob slobbing. You don't even understand the basic concepts behind MAC addresses or how a distributed network works, so anything you say is completely and absolutely ignorable.

Dan does need to waste his time talking to people like me who can actually provide attacks, vulnerabilities, and feedback. Dan is not some infallible god as evidenced by the fact that he has completely changed how emunie works like 4 times now because of vulnerabilities that he did not consider.

What Dan does not need is sycophants. You are useless and in fact detrimental.

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Quote from: Lohoris on July 23, 2013, 09:42:03 AM

Quote from: eCoinomist on July 22, 2013, 01:42:13 PM

Paypal =:
1 - not decentralised

emunie isn't either

Quote from: eCoinomist on July 22, 2013, 01:42:13 PM

4 - requires a credit card
6 - requires a bank

emunie requires to trust liars such as you.

Quote from: eCoinomist on July 22, 2013, 01:42:13 PM

7 - not secure (relies too much on email)

as far as we can know, emunie isn't secure either (relies too much on... WHO KNOWS? it's closed source).

now go back to the sanitarium, please...

Lohoris, I thought you already said not to talk to me until next year?

Meanwhile, if you have nothing else to do, I suggest you go get your Lohores or toy yourself, please Wink

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Quote from: Etlase2 on July 23, 2013, 12:32:36 AM

... just the fact that fuserleer is probably full of shit. I don't believe emunie has a proper system for preventing double spending, and I believe it is totally unscalable if any of the silly ideas that ecoinomist talks about are implemented. But I can't really be sure since no one who actually knows stuff wants to discuss anything. This does not, believe it or not, require releasing the source code.

At least I and Fuserleer have one thing in common you don't - our ideas turn into reality (maybe not 100% of them, but half of my ideas are already in the current system, you guys just don't know it

).

Good luck with your Decrits ideas, see if they ever lifts off the keyboard strokes beyond the computer screens of this crypto community Wink

Dan does not need to waste his time "actually coding" explaining things to people like you, unfortunately... Sad

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This is great i can mine this coin while all the closed source trolls troll it up for a year

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Still the Best 1973

Wait, does this have blacklisting?

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