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Bitgoblin
July 23, 2013, 09:42:03 AM
Paypal =:
1 - not decentralised
emunie isn't either

4 - requires a credit card
6 - requires a bank
emunie requires to trust liars such as you.

7 - not secure (relies too much on email)
as far as we can know, emunie isn't secure either (relies too much on... WHO KNOWS? it's closed source).

now go back to the sanitarium, please...
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July 23, 2013, 09:30:23 AM
Unlike you, I am not so easily impressed by infographics and false explanations. Neither will anyone else be who understands the dynamics behind a p2p distributed shared file. The time to discuss what actually will make emunie tick is now, so people can find vulnerabilities in the logic, not a year down the road when the source code is finally released.

I did say probably full of shit because fuserleer has not once satisfactorily answered a technical question. I have been told to "check the forum" several times--where there is nothing more than the same lack of real info, and again by another mouth breather, but I have started two topics (unanswered) already, and will continue to post more depending on whether or not fuserleer actually wants to gain some credibility.

http://forum.emunie.com/threads/how-do-hatchers-choose-transactions.194/
http://forum.emunie.com/threads/so-whats-a-mediator.193/
These are valid points and questions will be answered however Dan's time and energy right now is focused on getting eMunie together.  His plan is to have the whitepaper finished before eMunie is released. Could eMunie be vaporware?  Sure it could but so far Dan has delivered on everything he has said he was going to do. As eMunie is still going through some changes, the answers you got now might not be accurate and Dan isn't out to fool anyone.
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‘Try to be nice’
July 23, 2013, 07:44:33 AM
But what if i dont want to fork it?  Can't i just make a change to the current code without forking it? Is there a procedure i have to follow to do this?

yes you can do all of this - There is a move for people to be able to skin clients - add features etc - I'm not following the question i think ?

if you want to somehow change the fundamentals i.e Structure , you would have to fork the BC , this could happen.
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July 23, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
Unlike you, I am not so easily impressed by infographics and false explanations. Neither will anyone else be who understands the dynamics behind a p2p distributed shared file. The time to discuss what actually will make emunie tick is now, so people can find vulnerabilities in the logic, not a year down the road when the source code is finally released.

I did say probably full of shit because fuserleer has not once satisfactorily answered a technical question. I have been told to "check the forum" several times--where there is nothing more than the same lack of real info, and again by another mouth breather, but I have started two topics (unanswered) already, and will continue to post more depending on whether or not fuserleer actually wants to gain some credibility.

http://forum.emunie.com/threads/how-do-hatchers-choose-transactions.194/
http://forum.emunie.com/threads/so-whats-a-mediator.193/
sr. member
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July 23, 2013, 01:24:43 AM
Oh please. Roll Eyes Besides, I don't know why you're responding to my post as it had nothing to do with the sourceness of emunie, just the fact that fuserleer is probably full of shit. I don't believe emunie has a proper system for preventing double spending, and I believe it is totally unscalable if any of the silly ideas that ecoinomist talks about are implemented. But I can't really be sure since no one who actually knows stuff wants to discuss anything. This does not, believe it or not, require releasing the source code.

I'm sure fuserleer is more than capable as he was behind NFC you know that little thing used in every almost every cell-phone, and even if he doesn't get it right, he's the only one that has the capabilities to even try, but I'm sure he has got it right. No offense, but you seem like your butt hurt that he actually created what you have been writing about.

Here is a direct link: http://forum.emunie.com/ if you truly care about learning about it, instead of calling someone who's created new technologies full of shit.
legendary
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quack
July 23, 2013, 12:34:17 AM
Would you really put your life savings in a currency called eMunie? Or 500 dollars?

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Bitcoin -
   Unstable price - not good for average joe or merchants
.   Special hardware to mine it so only a small percentage of people are able to take part in the creation of it.
    Transaction times are way to slow - useless for pos

You can use Bitcoin only as the middle currency, i.e. USD<->BTC<->USD. This way USD/BTC rate doesn't matter. Also the price will most likely get more stable. You can buy a capable miner for 100 USD to mine BTC.
I think all new cryptocurrencies (btc+altcoins) have unstable price. And Bitcoin is the oldest.
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July 23, 2013, 12:32:36 AM
#99
Oh please. Roll Eyes Besides, I don't know why you're responding to my post as it had nothing to do with the sourceness of emunie, just the fact that fuserleer is probably full of shit. I don't believe emunie has a proper system for preventing double spending, and I believe it is totally unscalable if any of the silly ideas that ecoinomist talks about are implemented. But I can't really be sure since no one who actually knows stuff wants to discuss anything. This does not, believe it or not, require releasing the source code.
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July 23, 2013, 12:25:11 AM
#98
This is why bitcoin and the general state of crypto's has failed. It's no longer about changing the world but profit and greed. By striving to replace the banksters and cheats, bitcoin and the cryptos have supplanted the said evil we all set out to fight.

To the haters, you should come by and see what we have going on. If you are so passionate about open source and what cryptos are supposed to be about, you should at least give us a chance. You may even present a good conversation that can change the process! At the very least with hands on experience and the facts from our own forums, you could if nothing else make a stronger argument on why us b00bs should wither up and die.

give them some good stash of eMunie at the start and let them earn ridiculous 1,000% interest rate per month without doing any work Wink


PS - I have yet to receive one satisfactory answer to any question by anyone that matters. I am willing to poke holes, but if the policy is to keep the wool drawn, what the heck is there to learn or discuss? So far all there is is some technobabble-disguised bullshit that fools less technically inclined people. I don't buy it.

It's closed source because WE the beta testers pushed fuserleer to keep it closed source in the beginning to keep other copy cat coins away. Eventually the code will be released slowly, until it's all open source.

Again Greed is playing as mentioned above, people want it to be open source so they can come clone it and release 1000 copies everyday of emunie.
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July 22, 2013, 10:50:16 PM
#97
This is why bitcoin and the general state of crypto's has failed. It's no longer about changing the world but profit and greed. By striving to replace the banksters and cheats, bitcoin and the cryptos have supplanted the said evil we all set out to fight.

To the haters, you should come by and see what we have going on. If you are so passionate about open source and what cryptos are supposed to be about, you should at least give us a chance. You may even present a good conversation that can change the process! At the very least with hands on experience and the facts from our own forums, you could if nothing else make a stronger argument on why us b00bs should wither up and die.

give them some good stash of eMunie at the start and let them earn ridiculous 1,000% interest rate per month without doing any work Wink


PS - I have yet to receive one satisfactory answer to any question by anyone that matters. I am willing to poke holes, but if the policy is to keep the wool drawn, what the heck is there to learn or discuss? So far all there is is some technobabble-disguised bullshit that fools less technically inclined people. I don't buy it.
legendary
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Crackpot Idealist
July 22, 2013, 09:59:39 PM
#96
If you want to compete against bitcoin, one thing is clear, without investors you have no long-term chance at economic success.  Silicon Valley and even Wall Street are taking note of bitcoin, which has drawn prominent investors like the Winklevoss twin.

This is why bitcoin and the general state of crypto's has failed. It's no longer about changing the world but profit and greed. By striving to replace the banksters and cheats, bitcoin and the cryptos have supplanted the said evil we all set out to fight.

To the haters, you should come by and see what we have going on. If you are so passionate about open source and what cryptos are supposed to be about, you should at least give us a chance. You may even present a good conversation that can change the process! At the very least with hands on experience and the facts from our own forums, you could if nothing else make a stronger argument on why us b00bs should wither up and die.

If you turn a blind eye to everything that does not fit your perfect mold, the struggle for true financial independence for all of mankind will progress no further than your bloated troll count or the bragging right ban duration from some random troll box. The world is going to shit real damn quick and this scene needs to get its pompous head out of its ass and start making real progress towards change instead the current game of blood lust of greed. We can all call out scam coin bull shit, but you need to at least look further into projects that show promise and or innovation before painting them with broad strokes of troll.

sr. member
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July 22, 2013, 09:49:51 PM
#95
The Dev behind eMunie can easily raise VC for anything he needs given his ast experience and successes
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Independent Analyst
July 22, 2013, 09:31:45 PM
#94
My favorite part about this entire discussion, is that some feel that they actually have legitimate excuses >.>

If you only knew a bit of the developers behind eMunie, you would have a little faith Wink
Regardless, I forget, but do we win something if we 'convince' naysayers? All I have been rewarded with from beating the naysayers is pride in knowing that they cannot do any better lol.

If you can't figure out what will make us happy when we complain it's not even open source, then I'm not sure there's any hope for you.

I know what will make most kids here happy WITHOUT EVER GOING OPEN SOURCE - give them some good stash of eMunie at the start and let them earn ridiculous 1,000% interest rate per month without doing any work Wink
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July 22, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
#93
My favorite part about this entire discussion, is that some feel that they actually have legitimate excuses >.>

If you only knew a bit of the developers behind eMunie, you would have a little faith Wink
Regardless, I forget, but do we win something if we 'convince' naysayers? All I have been rewarded with from beating the naysayers is pride in knowing that they cannot do any better lol.
Yes, you wil adoption and support from the cryptocurrency community.  But hey, you can go trade your emunie coins among the 30 people on your forum and see what traction you get with that.
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July 22, 2013, 09:05:02 PM
#92
My favorite part about this entire discussion, is that some feel that they actually have legitimate excuses >.>

If you only knew a bit of the developers behind eMunie, you would have a little faith Wink
Regardless, I forget, but do we win something if we 'convince' naysayers? All I have been rewarded with from beating the naysayers is pride in knowing that they cannot do any better lol.

If you can't figure out what will make us happy when we complain it's not even open source, then I'm not sure there's any hope for you.
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July 22, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
#91
My favorite part about this entire discussion, is that some feel that they actually have legitimate excuses >.>

If you only knew a bit of the developers behind eMunie, you would have a little faith Wink
Regardless, I forget, but do we win something if we 'convince' naysayers? All I have been rewarded with from beating the naysayers is pride in knowing that they cannot do any better lol.
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Independent Analyst
July 22, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
#90
Paypal =:
1 - not decentralised
2 - hefty fees
3 - exchange fees
4 - requires a credit card
5 - no interest rates
6 - requires a bank
7 - not secure (relies too much on email)
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July 22, 2013, 01:06:55 PM
#89
Paypal solves those issues too.

 Cheesy
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July 22, 2013, 12:13:29 PM
#88
If you want to compete against bitcoin, one thing is clear, without investors you have no long-term chance at economic success.  Silicon Valley and even Wall Street are taking note of bitcoin, which has drawn prominent investors like the Winklevoss twin.
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July 22, 2013, 12:05:40 PM
#87
Let's s take as look at the current "coins" out there: 

Bitcoin -
   Unstable price - not good for average joe or merchants
.   Special hardware to mine it so only a small percentage of people are able to take part in the creation of it.
    Transaction times are way to slow - useless for pos

Other alt-coins

   If it can be 51% attacked - useless
   Double spend - useless
.  Transactions longer then 30 sec - useless

Have any of these coins been stressed test to see how they would perform under heavyload?

eMunie is trying to solve these problems,  so if u want to shit on it because for right now it's not open source then stick with you coins that have no future.


Paypal solves those issues too.
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July 22, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
#86
Let's s take as look at the current "coins" out there: 

Bitcoin -
   Unstable price - not good for average joe or merchants
.   Special hardware to mine it so only a small percentage of people are able to take part in the creation of it.
    Transaction times are way to slow - useless for pos

Other alt-coins

   If it can be 51% attacked - useless
   Double spend - useless
.  Transactions longer then 30 sec - useless

Have any of these coins been stressed test to see how they would perform under heavyload?

eMunie is trying to solve these problems,  so if u want to shit on it because for right now it's not open source then stick with you coins that have no future.
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