Topic: [ENDED] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ - page 46. (Read 303553 times)
Effective this week, campaign payments have decreased to $6 USD/post. All other rules remain the same.
Payments for this week have been sent. (2ebb8b6b3edf919b176fa4d609df62a8374777d5269e5962518b86c7e76f7a08)
why do I seem to see a lot of off-topic here?
Discussion of the pay rates of this campaign isn't off-topic.
looks like @OP should lock this thread. jealousy was approaching
The OP is more than capable of deciding when and if he wants to lock the thread himself.
This whole discussion reminds me of one of the UK print union leaders back in the eighties saying "This too good to be true, it can't last forever". He was right, a few years later their stranglehold on Fleet Street ended. My message as an ex participant to everyone currently in the campaign is to enjoy it while you can.
why do I seem to see a lot of off-topic here? Since its inception (I noticed that the payout to participants never changes even though the value of Bitcoin against the dollar keeps changing) Chipmixer is a campaign that pays with Bitcoin and not fiat (must emphasize), so even if the value of 1 BTC/USD = $1,000,000 or $1 Chipmixer must pay --> Sr. Member, Hero Member, Legendary and Staff = 0.00075BTC/post
looks like @OP should lock this thread. jealousy was approaching
looks like @OP should lock this thread. jealousy was approaching
Isn't it completely irrelevant how much money the participants are making from this campaign?
If you were on their place, would it still be worth discussing? Or wouldn't you also rather want the whole theme not to be made so big...!?
Why does this thread here always often have to turn into a drama stage?
A bit of fun is a must...
If you were on their place, would it still be worth discussing? Or wouldn't you also rather want the whole theme not to be made so big...!?
Why does this thread here always often have to turn into a drama stage?
A bit of fun is a must... 
The smallest chip has always been 0.001 BTC, and so the minimum you can donate from your chips has always been 0.001 BTC, regardless of that fiat price. Obviously you can donate more by sending a non-multiple of 0.001 BTC, but donating a chip or two is better for your privacy.
You can send any amount, with an immediate donation : the part that can't be made into a 0.001BTC chip. So sending 0.537459 => 0.000459 donation, and privacy helped. Then you can also donate chips, but another way to increase privacy (to do instead, or on top of donating) is to use several deposits and several withdrawals, in several sessions (new addresses), recombined by using vouchers. So your X deposits resemble nothing like your Y withdrawals.
Just a heads up: bitmover created a separate topic for this 1 BTC = 1 BTC thing because it's slowly but surely going off-topic.
Topic: 1 BTC = 1 BTC - Off topic from Chipmixer campaign topic
EDIT: Yo guys... reply to this thread instead if you're going to continue with the 1 BTC = 1 BTC thing.
Topic: 1 BTC = 1 BTC - Off topic from Chipmixer campaign topic
Topic: 1 BTC = 1 BTC - Off topic from Chipmixer campaign topic
EDIT: Yo guys... reply to this thread instead if you're going to continue with the 1 BTC = 1 BTC thing.
Topic: 1 BTC = 1 BTC - Off topic from Chipmixer campaign topic
Since everyone is sharing their thoughts about payment rates, I also want to give my 2 Satoshi.
Ok, 1 BTC = 1 BTC and Chipmixer don't deal with fiat, but still, I think fiat matters. Many other crypto services also don't deal with fiat, but their signature campaigns rates is connected with Bitcoin value in $. I doubt that someone aren't paying attention to Bitcoin value in fiat when dealing with it. For example, it's not same thing to make 0.01 BTC bet when Bitcoin is worth $5000 and $40 000. There is more good examples given by members above, but I won't repeat it. I can also give one bad exsmple, why it's not always good idea not to pay attention to fiat. It's VIP and Donator ranks on Bitcointalk. If 1 BTC is 1 BTC, why people aren't donating it for Bitcointalk anymore.
I understand that everyone like to get such crazy money for every post and I'm really happy for you, but I think it makes more sense to keep it connected to Bitcoin value in USD. But if Chipmixer afford to pay so much, that's great!
Ok, 1 BTC = 1 BTC and Chipmixer don't deal with fiat, but still, I think fiat matters. Many other crypto services also don't deal with fiat, but their signature campaigns rates is connected with Bitcoin value in $. I doubt that someone aren't paying attention to Bitcoin value in fiat when dealing with it. For example, it's not same thing to make 0.01 BTC bet when Bitcoin is worth $5000 and $40 000. There is more good examples given by members above, but I won't repeat it. I can also give one bad exsmple, why it's not always good idea not to pay attention to fiat. It's VIP and Donator ranks on Bitcointalk. If 1 BTC is 1 BTC, why people aren't donating it for Bitcointalk anymore.
I understand that everyone like to get such crazy money for every post and I'm really happy for you, but I think it makes more sense to keep it connected to Bitcoin value in USD. But if Chipmixer afford to pay so much, that's great!
Let's make it easy and say that at one time in the past, you had to pay 1 BTC for a USB drive. We are going back to a time when 1 BTC = 1 USB drive.
That statement is now untrue. 1 BTC is not 1 USB. But 1 BTC = 1 BTC. As was explained by another poster, people are looking at the fiat value of things.
It used to be 100 BTC = 1 Lambo, now it's like 5 BTC = 1 Lambo (some car dealership in Australia is selling Lambos for BTC.)
In this particular case, ChipMixer does not deal with fiat, it never has. It has only dealt with BTC. It takes your BTC, it mixes your BTC, you get chips in BTC. Not once does anyone get a USB drive or a Lambo or US dollars or coffee or any other object for that matter.
The only thing that may have changed is the value of effort and time of the posters and how much it is worth to them.
If you are surprised, then you probably think that people don't believe in BTC. Some actually do. That we get some sort of other value out of it is a side effect. The institutions are voting with their buying power which is why the price is going up.
There is another meme with Neo and Morpheus: When the time comes, you don't have to.
Hal Finney predicted 10 years ago that 1 BTC = $10m USD. More recently Michael Saylor said 1 BTC will be $15m USD. Yet another website I've read posted an article for $50 to $100m.
It's going to happen in my lifetime, only because I think I have another 40 to 50 years to live.
I can't find it, and don't really want to read through so many pages.
So is chipmixer going to raise the rates considering how much bitcoin crashed?
Bitcoin is worth about 70% more than when this campaign started. The payment wasn't lowered when Bitcoin went up 8 fold, which is very loyal to it's participants.People are still lining up to join, and I don't see participants leaving yet because of what this campaign pays.
Of course I liked a higher dollar value more, but it's still a very nice bonus for posting on a forum.
As a former participant in the campaign I suggest all further discussions to go there Off-topic discussion split from:ChipMixer Signature Campaign
It seems off-topic there too, so maybe a new topic is better if a Mod wants to move this discussion.I've been hesitant if I should share my 2 sats on the subject. Let's just say I appreciate the current fiat equivalent of the campaign payments up to the point that I'm no longer HODLing it because of tax implications (I don't want to risk having to pay income tax (a year later) on a high fiat amount if Bitcoin takes a nose dive).
Wasn't there also some discussion at some point about increasing the rates when Bitcoin went down in value? I can't find it, and don't really want to read through so many pages.
As a former participant in the campaign I suggest all further discussions to go there Off-topic discussion split from:ChipMixer Signature Campaign
It's pointless for everyone (including me) who are not in this campaign to give their unnecessary and unwanted opinions in this thread. This is not some lets-speculate-if-CM-reduces-their-pay-or-not thread where we're hopping onto with our opinions. I believe CM has the best and highly capable campaign manager as well as team members who can decide for themselves if it's becoming too expensive for them or they're fine with what they're paying. Nonetheless, as I used to be a part of this campaign, I have experienced the warmth of being a member of it and I can say that Chipmixer-ers are getting what they deserve from the very beginning as they have a completely different class when it comes to making posts here. You people (who are not in this campaign) can simply compare their quality with others and you'll know why CM proudly pays them this much.
Okay, you pedants, it's not time to argue about tautologies again.
1 BTC = 1 BTC is a true statement.
Connotations derived thereof are used as rhetoric depending on your interpretation.
The only reason anyone says this is to peddle their argument with a meaningless statement: the magic is that it takes the form of whatever argument and remains true, thereby having you falsely believe that you agree with their argument. In reality, you would agree with "circles are round because circles are round" purely due to the fact that it was self-evident. When you don't look at it for what it is - the meta structure of the sentence rather than its words - you can project random beliefs onto them.
1 BTC = 1 BTC is a true statement.
Connotations derived thereof are used as rhetoric depending on your interpretation.
The only reason anyone says this is to peddle their argument with a meaningless statement: the magic is that it takes the form of whatever argument and remains true, thereby having you falsely believe that you agree with their argument. In reality, you would agree with "circles are round because circles are round" purely due to the fact that it was self-evident. When you don't look at it for what it is - the meta structure of the sentence rather than its words - you can project random beliefs onto them.
If the company feels fine with the payment rate, why do we have to care about that?
Cheers to all guys in Chip Mixer gang, you all deserve that.
- It can be a lie but bitcoiners say I am believe in bitcoin and 1 BTC is 1 BTC, I don't fear if bitcoin falls to a few cents. If you consider it is a trusted statement, they are caring about how many bitcoin/ satoshi they will receive for their works
- How many people will dump their bad judgement to bitcoiners if price falls to a few cent? If you support bitcoin today, you deserve it as you take all risks of any bad-judgement on you.
- It is not make sense to compare the salaries between bitcoiners (top-notch) and non-bitcoiners. Expanding the picture beyond cryptocurrency, it is non-sense to compare salaries in developed and developing nations. People are all survived with their received salaries.
- Me as an observer and applicant of the campaign, I can not deny I want to be in and have never stopped dreaming and trying for my future.
- To recap, I think it would be much derails already. If there is discussion, it should be among the company, manager, and participants, not for observers or ex-/ future- applicants
- If you want to earn a same income rate, let's get started to be a bitcoiner (if you've not yet), read, learn, and work hard. Some day, you can be one of them. Is it easy for top-notch bitcoiner to write a short but comprehensive post? It takes them months or years to turn challenging task to easy one (in aspect of knowledge) and decent times to compile their own documents. They deserve it
Cheers to all guys in Chip Mixer gang, you all deserve that.
I am always surprised when I hear people say this. I don't really think they believe it themselves, or they might think that way when it benefits them. If you think 1 BTC = 1 BTC, and it will always be 1 BTC, then the same logic should be used in situations that don't benefit you.
I think it's used to show that Bitcoin itself doesn't change, rather other currencies and assets changes against it. Let me try and use an analogy here;Think of it like a world class resort located in a remote area or a really precious stone which few know about. Most people are not aware of them or their worth and as such it doesn't really have a value cause there's no market at the time.
After a while scientific research could be done on the stone or more potential buyers discover the resort and realize it's a modern building regardless of the location, their market audience starts to grow and so does the market value, but there always was the intrinsic value even when no one was paying attention.
I tend to agree with 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
I am always surprised when I hear people say this. I don't really think they believe it themselves, or they might think that way when it benefits them. If you think 1 BTC = 1 BTC, and it will always be 1 BTC, then the same logic should be used in situations that don't benefit you.But in the purely bitcoin context, 1 BTC = 1 BTC. For example when price was $3,000 you were paying minimum of 1 s/vb and when price went up 10 times and reached $30,000 you are still paying minimum of 1 s/vb because 1 BTC = 1 BTC. And if you had 1 BTC that was worth $1 and wanted to mix it you still use 1 BTC, and if you had the same 1 BTC when it's worth $40k you still mix 1 BTC.
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Let's take a look at the platforms we use regularly.
As a trader, I've to use Bitstamp, Binance, Bittrex every day. previously, their withdrawal fee was 0.0005 BTC, but it still remains unchanged after the increase in BTC price, I have to count 0.0005BTC~20usd per withdrawal, & no one has any objection about that.
As a gambler, I very often use online gambling platforms, most gambling websites have their withdrawal fees unchanged. For example, I can talk about "stake", even after the increase in the price of BTC, their withdrawal fee remains unchanged at 0.0001BTC~4usd, & I am satisfied with their service.
If I talk about ChipMixer, still the price of the smallest chip is 0.001BTC~35usd.
So, IMHO, I think they can reduce the rewards a little to handle this situation but it makes more sense that the rewards counting in BTC, not the equivalent USD value. For those who have been with ChipMixer from the beginning, Now it is a reward for their good job and hard work, they deserve it.
As a trader, I've to use Bitstamp, Binance, Bittrex every day. previously, their withdrawal fee was 0.0005 BTC, but it still remains unchanged after the increase in BTC price, I have to count 0.0005BTC~20usd per withdrawal, & no one has any objection about that.
As a gambler, I very often use online gambling platforms, most gambling websites have their withdrawal fees unchanged. For example, I can talk about "stake", even after the increase in the price of BTC, their withdrawal fee remains unchanged at 0.0001BTC~4usd, & I am satisfied with their service.
If I talk about ChipMixer, still the price of the smallest chip is 0.001BTC~35usd.
So, IMHO, I think they can reduce the rewards a little to handle this situation but it makes more sense that the rewards counting in BTC, not the equivalent USD value. For those who have been with ChipMixer from the beginning, Now it is a reward for their good job and hard work, they deserve it.
It was two pizzas because he said he loved to eat left over pizza the next day
This article is from around 8 months ago on CMC. it makes interesting reading since it is not the exact same recycled story from a decade ago but has other sides: https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2020/05/23/meet-the-man-who-spent-10000-btc-on-two-pizzas/
Let's make it easy and say that at one time in the past, you had to pay 1 BTC for a USB drive. We are going back to a time when 1 BTC = 1 USB drive.
Just remember Laszlo Hanyecz well known as pizza guy which pay 10000Bitcoin for one pizza 10 yrs ago.
This article is from around 8 months ago on CMC. it makes interesting reading since it is not the exact same recycled story from a decade ago but has other sides: https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2020/05/23/meet-the-man-who-spent-10000-btc-on-two-pizzas/
I tend to agree with 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
I am always surprised when I hear people say this. I don't really think they believe it themselves, or they might think that way when it benefits them. If you think 1 BTC = 1 BTC, and it will always be 1 BTC, then the same logic should be used in situations that don't benefit you.Let's make it easy and say that at one time in the past, you had to pay 1 BTC for a USB drive. We are going back to a time when 1 BTC = 1 USB drive.
Just remember Laszlo Hanyecz well known as pizza guy which pay 10000Bitcoin for one pizza 10 yrs ago.
I tend to agree with 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
I am always surprised when I hear people say this. I don't really think they believe it themselves, or they might think that way when it benefits them. If you think 1 BTC = 1 BTC, and it will always be 1 BTC, then the same logic should be used in situations that don't benefit you.Let's make it easy and say that at one time in the past, you had to pay 1 BTC for a USB drive. We are going back to a time when 1 BTC = 1 USB drive.
Just remember Laszlo Hanyecz well known as pizza guy which pay 10000Bitcoin for one pizza 10 yrs ago.
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