and seeing that DarkStar_ has merited suchmoon, the participants of this campaign should be prepared for reductions in rates paid.
Just to weigh in; a merit does not signify endorsement, or agreement. It's possible an adjustment is in the works or DarkStar_ liked the idea behind the reply and chose to merit it. 
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I doubt Chipmxer is charging the same for their service as they did when bitcoin was worth a few k and adjust it accordingly with the market.
Their fees have always been voluntary/donation-based. With more economic activity as price rises (as evidenced by higher BTC transaction fees) it stands to reason there'd also be more users using ChipMixer. But it might not all be 1:1, and seeing that DarkStar_ has merited suchmoon, the participants of this campaign should be prepared for reductions in rates paid. The 2nd highest paying campaign pays barely more than half what ChipMixer pays per post but with a smaller weekly post limit, and the 3rd highest is some shitcoin campaign with $6/post but with an even lower weekly post limit, and none of them are accepting new members.
why do you think they need advice here when everything is already working well for them?
that's exactly what I think too. I even find it surprising, even annoying, that people not participating in this campaign are asking for reduced payments. If it has to happen, it will happen, no need to force it. Could it be that some are envious ?
Today I noticed that one of the Indonesian Local users was removed from the Signature Chipmixer @joniboini. I am wondering if this is an option to reduce the campaign costs paid weekly for all participant during the bitcoin price increase ? If this is the option taken, there will be many more participant to be expelled in the future. Hope my guess is wrong.
Re-structure is on-going, maybe (changes to make exposure to other boards or find other participants in the same board). One or two participants were removed does not mean the company is trying to reduce weekly payment budget for the campaign.I think the company know what they are doing (total budget, payment rate, total participant, etc.)
Maybe they should restructure how much they pay or cap the amount you can get per week to a certain amount as it could get silly.
Since everyone is suggesting about chipmixer payment reduction, it would have been better if CM reduce the payment rate while taking in new good and quality posters that deserves/ fits in the category of receiving such significant amount. Trust me, that will bring more promotion, I know chip is everywhere, but more....What's you take on this?
it is clear that they pay a large amount of Bitcoin per week in the signature campaign. I don’t think they are borrowing to cover campaign costs, it is certain that everything comes from his own profit.
So if Chipmixer can pay that much for one campaign, it is clear that they have a satisfactory profit.
why do you think they need advice here when everything is already working well for them?
Maybe they should restructure how much they pay or cap the amount you can get per week to a certain amount as it could get silly.
Since everyone is suggesting about chipmixer payment reduction, it would have been better if CM reduce the payment rate while taking in new good and quality posters that deserves/ fits in the category of receiving such significant amount. Trust me, that will bring more promotion, I know chip is everywhere, but more....What's you take on this?
Today I noticed that one of the Indonesian Local users was removed from the Signature Chipmixer @joniboini. I am wondering if this is an option to reduce the campaign costs paid weekly for all participant during the bitcoin price increase ? If this is the option taken, there will be many more participant to be expelled in the future. Hope my guess is wrong.
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Thank you for clarification, now i totally understand. I really haven't visited this forum for many months, but only because I wrote under the same nickname on another investment forum and didn't have enough free time.
Thanks again for the detailed explanations, I shouldn't have tried to participate in this signature campaign without making sure that I was fully eligible. I don't know what I was counting on.
Maybe you know, how i can return my trust and grab some green points?
Speak to the person who left you it an try work it out with them. As for gaining trust just be an active member and you should build it up naturally over time, especially if you're active in trades/deals etc.
You can look at it that way but if the consumers believe that 1 BTC in 2021 is worth more than 1 BTC in 2020, they're probably not as likely to pay the same amount.
Just because your operating service doesn't discriminate between USD amounts, it doesn't mean that your consumers do the same.
Just because your operating service doesn't discriminate between USD amounts, it doesn't mean that your consumers do the same.
Not only that, but we also need to take into consideration the important factor that as bitcoin grows in price, so does Bitcointalk's traffic, and most probably so does ChipMixer's traffic(hence also an increase in earnings). So I guess we can probably make the assumption that it sort of all balances out in the end?
Just because companies get paid or pay in bitcoin it doesn't mean it always has to stay at a fixed amount in bitcoin. I doubt Chipmxer is charging the same for their service as they did when bitcoin was worth a few k and adjust it accordingly with the market.
Not only that, but we also need to take into consideration the important factor that as bitcoin grows in price, so does Bitcointalk's traffic, and most probably so does ChipMixer's traffic(hence also an increase in earnings). So I guess we can probably make the assumption that it sort of all balances out in the end?
I admire your optimism but I don't think $30 per post will last... doesn't make much business sense when everyone would happily participate even with a 90% reduction.
To be honest, I think they should lower it or cap it at something or peg the per post to fiat. As much as I appreciate the payments it's a ridiculous amount currently. Maybe they should restructure how much they pay or cap the amount you can get per week to a certain amount as it could get silly. Pegging to fiat isn't a bad thing in times like these. They could lower the amount to x in bitcoin then the bubble bursts and everyone ends up getting underpaid.
I admire your optimism but I don't think $30 per post will last... doesn't make much business sense when everyone would happily participate even with a 90% reduction.
Oh sure, of course. My point was just that bitcoin rising in price(hence a more expensive payment for campaign participants) isn’t 100% a bad thing on ChipMixer’s side, because of said reasons. But of course, it’s all speculation because only ChipMixer has the data.
Not only that, but we also need to take into consideration the important factor that as bitcoin grows in price, so does Bitcointalk's traffic, and most probably so does ChipMixer's traffic(hence also an increase in earnings). So I guess we can probably make the assumption that it sort of all balances out in the end?
If it's less than 1:1 in the conversion of % Bitcoin growth to traffic/earnings, which it is, then the assumption falls flat. 
Not only that, but we also need to take into consideration the important factor that as bitcoin grows in price, so does Bitcointalk's traffic, and most probably so does ChipMixer's traffic(hence also an increase in earnings). So I guess we can probably make the assumption that it sort of all balances out in the end?
I admire your optimism but I don't think $30 per post will last... doesn't make much business sense when everyone would happily participate even with a 90% reduction.
You can look at it that way but if the consumers believe that 1 BTC in 2021 is worth more than 1 BTC in 2020, they're probably not as likely to pay the same amount.
Just because your operating service doesn't discriminate between USD amounts, it doesn't mean that your consumers do the same.
Just because your operating service doesn't discriminate between USD amounts, it doesn't mean that your consumers do the same.
Not only that, but we also need to take into consideration the important factor that as bitcoin grows in price, so does Bitcointalk's traffic, and most probably so does ChipMixer's traffic(hence also an increase in earnings). So I guess we can probably make the assumption that it sort of all balances out in the end?
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There has already been a discussion on this topic, and the conclusion is more than clear. The point is that CM operates exclusively with BTC, and that it pays all participants in its signature campaign exclusively with BTC. Therefore, from their perspective, it is completely irrelevant what the price of BTC is compared to fiat - because 2 BTC per week today or 2 years ago makes no difference for them.
I may be wrong, but given the reputation CM has and the “pay as much as you want for service” policy, I have no doubt they are doing very well.
You can look at it that way but if the consumers believe that 1 BTC in 2021 is worth more than 1 BTC in 2020, they're probably not as likely to pay the same amount.I may be wrong, but given the reputation CM has and the “pay as much as you want for service” policy, I have no doubt they are doing very well.
Just because your operating service doesn't discriminate between USD amounts, it doesn't mean that your consumers do the same.
Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't changed anything yet!
There has already been a discussion on this topic, and the conclusion is more than clear. The point is that CM operates exclusively with BTC, and that it pays all participants in its signature campaign exclusively with BTC. Therefore, from their perspective, it is completely irrelevant what the price of BTC is compared to fiat - because 2 BTC per week today or 2 years ago makes no difference for them.
I may be wrong, but given the reputation CM has and the “pay as much as you want for service” policy, I have no doubt they are doing very well.
You are right but the fact is their budget is taking in to account up 54 participants in the recent spreadsheet with each participant receiving up to BTC0.0375.
Keeping aside the actual payouts to each participant based on how much they posted and whether they met proper criteria for payment, Chipmixer are willing to pay 54 participants a share of up to over BTC2 a week.
The figures are phenomenal for a signature campaign, congratulations to you and all those that are part of it.
These figures are only in theory. What we have in practice:
- The chipmixer has not 59 participants, but 54.
- And if you look at the spreadsheet of this campaign, we see that only less than half of the participants receive the maximum 0.0375 BTC per week, some write 10 posts, some even 0. In this campaign, most users write as much as they want, and not as much as necessary. Even despite the highest post pay rates.
Keeping aside the actual payouts to each participant based on how much they posted and whether they met proper criteria for payment, Chipmixer are willing to pay 54 participants a share of up to over BTC2 a week.
The figures are phenomenal for a signature campaign, congratulations to you and all those that are part of it.
Looking at up to BTC0.0375 per week x 59 participants = BTC2.2125 per week overall.
So it is costing Chipmixer around BTC8.85 a month or between BTC106 - BTC115 per year depending on method of calculation.
The majority of campaigns pay in USD$ in order to protect their BTC holdings which is understandable but for any campaign to be paying around $4 million per year at current rates - these are astronomical figures.
So it is costing Chipmixer around BTC8.85 a month or between BTC106 - BTC115 per year depending on method of calculation.
The majority of campaigns pay in USD$ in order to protect their BTC holdings which is understandable but for any campaign to be paying around $4 million per year at current rates - these are astronomical figures.
These figures are only in theory. What we have in practice:
- The chipmixer has not 59 participants, but 54.
- And if you look at the spreadsheet of this campaign, we see that only less than half of the participants receive the maximum 0.0375 BTC per week, some write 10 posts, some even 0. In this campaign, most users write as much as they want, and not as much as necessary. Even despite the highest post pay rates.
All assuming that ChipMixer keeps the current rates, doesn't boot out any members, etc.
I'll repeat the same thing that all members should know intrinsically: signature campaigns are not a job. You are contracted to do work and you can be removed from the campaign at any time. Do not think of them as stable income, because you will start slowly incentivizing yourself to reduce your post quality in return for temporary bitcoin payments. Just take a look at what happens when you think long-term about short-term prospects, like the YoBit campaign.
Well you have a point, signature campaigns are nice way to earn money for as long as the contract allows it, to consider it a job is not prudent.I'll repeat the same thing that all members should know intrinsically: signature campaigns are not a job. You are contracted to do work and you can be removed from the campaign at any time. Do not think of them as stable income, because you will start slowly incentivizing yourself to reduce your post quality in return for temporary bitcoin payments. Just take a look at what happens when you think long-term about short-term prospects, like the YoBit campaign.
As with Yobit the standards dropped immensely and people were posting all over the place to earn signature fees including at least one that claimed he knew Yobit was a scam but he did not mind promoting them because he was getting paid and also because any victims deserved to lose money because they were incompetent enough to get scammed by believing the unbelievable offers Yobit was making.
A flip side is that you only have to look at not so recent behaviour by some members of a particular language board that threw lots of abuse at other members because they were constantly overlooked for this campaign. With the amount of money being offered through the campaign it would probably amount to more than their monthly wages in some cases but still a standard of posting should be upheld regardless.
And you rightly pointed out Chipmixer could at any point reduce the number of participants but did they ever stop their campaign for a 3-6 month period to see how it was affecting their business on their website? I guess the only way to know if a signature campaign is working the way it should is by having a form of marker to hold it up against.
Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't changed anything yet!
It seems the figures involved are mind-boggling.Looking at up to BTC0.0375 per week x 59 participants = BTC2.2125 per week overall.
So it is costing Chipmixer around BTC8.85 a month or between BTC106 - BTC115 per year depending on method of calculation.
The majority of campaigns pay in USD$ in order to protect their BTC holdings which is understandable but for any campaign to be paying around $4 million per year at current rates - these are astronomical figures.
I think that 0.15 BTC per month or 1.8 BTC a year just from a signature campaign is evidently enough for some applicants to post their details here with following the guidelines in the OP.
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Yes, I had to think about it yesterday for a moment...~
The high rank members at Chipmixer-Campaign earn ~5000€ (~6000$) in 4 fully paid weeks at the current BTC-rate. INCREDIBLE!
Then I could quit my job...
Nevertheless, I begrudge every participant from my heart...
I'll repeat the same thing that all members should know intrinsically: signature campaigns are not a job. You are contracted to do work and you can be removed from the campaign at any time. Do not think of them as stable income, because you will start slowly incentivizing yourself to reduce your post quality in return for temporary bitcoin payments. Just take a look at what happens when you think long-term about short-term prospects, like the YoBit campaign.
Frankly, I'm surprised that they haven't changed anything yet!
I think that 0.15 BTC per month or 1.8 BTC a year just from a signature campaign is evidently enough for some applicants to post their details here with following the guidelines in the OP.
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Yes, I had to think about it yesterday for a moment...
The high rank members at Chipmixer-Campaign earn ~5000€ (~6000$) in 4 fully paid weeks at the current BTC-rate. INCREDIBLE!
Then I could quit my job...
Nevertheless, I begrudge every participant from my heart...
I think that 0.15 BTC per month or 1.8 BTC a year just from a signature campaign is evidently enough for some applicants to post their details here without following the guidelines in the OP.
The campaign isn't even open right now. Check to see when it says open in the title, otherwise you're not doing yourself any favours.
Username: umbara ardian
Post Count: 1171
BTC Address: bc1qxz3ytyx3rz9f83spsrw65d0qxm73qvesjx5vv9
Please let me know, If I'm accepted.
Thanks!
Post Count: 1171
BTC Address: bc1qxz3ytyx3rz9f83spsrw65d0qxm73qvesjx5vv9
Please let me know, If I'm accepted.
Thanks!
The campaign isn't even open right now. Check to see when it says open in the title, otherwise you're not doing yourself any favours.
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