Topic: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine | - page 24. (Read 44363 times)

I wouldn't rely on the content written here on this forum as leverage against or for the legitimacy of any cryptocurrency. Anyone can say anything and that's not going to help anyone in the long term.

I've been following Energi from the side lines for a while now. They continually deliver on goals and promises. Sure, it's annoying that deposits are currently closed, but lets look at the big picture. They're creating something that has never existed before and I think they're doing a great job.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. People need to stop going around touting anti-Energi propaganda. Unless you're on the dev team, you can't really say anything about the success or failure of this project. From the beginning, they made it clear that this was an experimental project.

If Energi wins, we win. If Energi loses, we all lose.

Take a look at their github, there are commits that are very recent and they worked around the clock to dispatch 3.0.6 following a DDos attack. If they're isn't dissemination of anti-Energi hate, I'd be worried that this project was failing. The fact that people are writing hateful (untrue) things about the project and the people involved, is proof that Energi is doing something right. (Side note: I anticipate that we see commits very soon as evidence that we're moving forward).

To follow all this however, I think it is time for the team to come forward with a new plan-of-attack. I think if the deposit had been locked for 2 weeks, that would be sufficient time to go without an explanation. If deposits are not open in the next 2 to 3 weeks, I think it is only fair that the team steps forward and provides a bit more explanation and also a timelines so we can be ready for deposits to open so we can resume using this amazing cryptocurrency.

I trust that Tommy has his head screwed on properly. I trust the team IS working right now as I type this to fix the issues at hand. Don't let fear and greed get the best of you.

Greetings again, quick question for the hot topic.   Friendly reminder I'm and NRG supporter but also appreciating both sides and points of view.


If Energi is a scam as you guys say, what's the proposed end game here?   What if the deposits open in 2-3 weeks, price goes down a bit and up and just does it's normal thing and all is well?  Then Energi X comes out, things are rolling etc etc.


 Or if this really is a scam, what is being implied is going to continue to happen?  The deposits never open and all holders have lost?  Looking for possible scenarios that people are saying are going to roll out.  Not gaslighting or anything here guys, just genuinely curious what you guys are implying will or could happen.

Hello Blackstone we have talked in the discord many times before. Sorry not to be able to introduce my real identity. But how does it feel to be paid via NRG and not being able to cash your salary for two months now ?

Or are employees able to deposit on exchanges as a special treatment from the World Power ? 

Hastaguy; I don't want to get in the middle of your chat here, but, can you let other people who may want to communicate and post here about Energi do so without having to fend off your accusations.  I appreciate that you are passionate, but please lets respect others who may want to post as well.  I will thank you in advance for your co-operation.

Ok Tommy

and about the questions in that thread, will you answer them?

I am so grateful to have found Energi crypto currency. 

When I first bought some NRG, after mining it for a couple of weeks, the price and their plans for the future, were what drew me in. Now, after about a year, and a few more investments, I have a masternode and I'm receiving more and more NRG almost every day.

The best staking returns in the crypto space and the best Masternode returns too. I can't wait until everyone gets to see all that Energi has to offer.

You'd think that would be enough, but no. Energi has a self-funded charity called Energi Impact that is changing the world for the better.

Thank you Tommy and the Energi Team for building our planet's best hope for a healthy and fruitful future.

They will just ignore concerns or give you generic responses as if they are in the business of rocket science and you wouldn't know better.

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then you go in and see everything and we still have no answer, clearly we are right.

Energi investors and MN holders have the right to know about everything on this thread.

Im waiting.
about Energi "decentralized governance"

1- can you seriously prove that the entire community opted for closing deposits on exchanges? is it decentralized or not?

2 - proves to me that the value of the Bashful information reward was chosen by "decentralized governance" yea? then i will believe it.

kudos to you for staying positive. but i can't put my trust into a crypto project where you have to be afraid of somebody finding your addresses because they can simply block them if they don't like what you have to say or if you criticize their cult leader.


YAWN


in that case why don't you enlighten me and tell me: why is every transaction other than one to an exchange address fine? try to answer my question sincerely with your own words. you can't, because there is no actual explanation given in the medium article nor statement here. if the team you hold in such high regards really cared about 'security' and their users funds then why do they allow 'normal' transactions between addresses? where is the increased risk in a transaction to an exchange address in comparison to a normal wallet address?
seriously i want you to think about this and not just repeat tommys marketing babble. what is the justification for this? i'm really interested to see what you come up with and btw save me your answer if it's only going to be 'reading comprehension, you're to dumb to understand it i won't waste my time on you HURR DURR' that shits WEAK AF


okay fair, you're just naive then but what do i care like i said screaming FAKE ACCOUNTS doesn't refute any of the accusations and is just a weak attempt to change the subject.

on that matter: let's focus on the actual posts from andy and and not further derail this thread.
post numbers #501, #504, #505 and #514 are very important and still haven't been properly refuted by Energi Crypto, please read them if you just joined the thread
Their response [#532] does NOT provide an explanation for the accusations he very clearly laid bare. instead their response is an accumulation of self congratulatory marketing phrases and smear attacks on their former employees reputation. once again they ignore the actual accusations and fail to give proper explanations for their behavior.

and I say here, I much prefer to trust someone who was fired, than someone being paid by the defender something here.

I am not from the USA, but I have contact with a lawyer who lives in the united states.
i have already searched and collected a lot of important personal information.

Dude, please stop.  I'm not very good on format in forums so guys please bare with me but I'm talking to you Mergatroid.  Your constant "new account" accusations is exhausting.  I am a full supporter of the Energi project but dorks like you ruin the entire damn thing.  No wonder Discord is such a virgin snowflake shit show of offended little babies.  I absolutely hate the discord and look at this ... still a massive supporter of the project.  To the opposing sides of NRG here, you know who you are obviously, you have some legitimate beefs.  I do find a few things quite peculiar, especially the exchange deposit issue.  Ok folks, roll your eyes yea yea I know it's a major issue ... but there's still a part of me that kinda sorta doesn't really give a shit.   I'm accumulating and accumulating as many nodes as I can so short term price doesn't affect me.  Bias opinion of course but i think the main big accusation here is that Energi team members and big ol Tommy are selling off their bags at these manipulated prices.  Do you guys and gals actually believe that?


Why in TF would Tommy do that?  It makes absolutely no logical sense to be a multi millionaire, start a project and then scam it.  The dudes got 8 figures and all of you have this image in your head he's just taxing the shit of his own project to forever and always solidify an international villainous reputation?  Quick trigger fingers after Andrey posted his, well whatever he posted.  Speaking of rodeo's, I've been around life quite a bit and there's one thing you can always guarantee, weak whiny people who feel unjustly treated, will always scream the loudest upon exit.  Sorry Andrey, maybe you have legitimate claims, maybe you don't but at no time did you need to voice your dirty laundry.  I would of frozen your coins too after you talked all that smack.  Why?  Because I can and you started it.  What did you expect man?  I actually find it quite simple of you to not think that would happen.  Is it dirty?  Yup!  Did you start a fight?  Yup!  When you kick someone in the balls, don't act all jesus like when you get smacked back in the face.  


And trust me, there's definitely some things i strongly dislike about this project and what makes it even worse, the discord.  I absolutely agree with opposing council in regards to how brutal discord is.  I've never seen the emotional police in action like I have on there lol.  I'm an adult and I'm too old to worry about offending people because maybe they kinda sorta didn't really understand the context of my statement and now are upset.  GTFOH.  Oh yes, the best, the absolute BEST is when Tommy makes an appearance and swears, and says "I didn't start this to be told wtf to do" etc etc lol lol.  It's actually quite hilarious the irony and noooobody can say anything.  And again, i really don't give a shit.  He can do what he wants, no sweat off my back.  Look how motivated the guy is, look at the roadmap, look at the GOOD things happening and happening fast.  There isn't another project I'm a bigger supporter of and i don't see that changing.  You know what i do when discord pisses me off?  I don't go back on discord lol.  


Energi's tech support is above and beyond as well.  Show me a comparable or better project.  Did all these node updates get annoying, for sure they did.  Lost rewards for a bunch of days as well, that really sucked too.  Are all of these reasons to flip my lid and just go crazy and call this company a scam?  Nope.  I personally had zero thoughts of that and were only introduced when Andrey voiced his disgruntlement.   I just feel like the hate right now is coming from a spiteful place for certain people and I can't resonate with that anger.  


Hey Energi Core, I wish I could voice my concerns on discord or in any other environment but I am paranoid.  I commend you for creating a "positive" experience but clearly, clearly it is not a true representation.  I go on once or twice a week and I always regret it.  As my children say, so cringy.  You realize how many side conversations are going on about the absolute lack of, for the lack of a better word, discord we can have on that platform?  I used to be a part of many but what's the point.  To literally not even be able to discuss the deposit issue is, well just super silly.  Can't even mention another project in any way shape or form.  How can you honestly say that is a smart idea?  You flat out call Andrey's claims lies and FUD.  Do you guys think that maybe the community could have an opinion on that?  If it was Tommy's personal discord, sure, ban away.  But if this is a project with full disclosure and an open environment for one to speak their mind, you have failed in doing so.  Especially when mod's can lay down the hammer and send us all to time out.  Lmao and please don't forget how Tommy flies in there and lays down Thor's big hammer lol.  It's like the biggest elephant in the room and nobody is talking about.  "We're all about positivity, no FUD, no swearing and good energy, here's our founder who's a cowboy in all shapes and sizes, say's and does whatever he wants, yay!"  Incredible double standard  Energi Core and if you think nobody notices, you are very wrong.  Personally, I think Tommy is a yahoo and I enjoy his presence.  But then you should let all of us be like him.  I'll always invest in passion and a big voice.  But you guys really need to figure out what you want to be, especially when he chimes in at his leisure.  We need an adult platform where anyone can speak their mind.  Let your last 2 years and many more do the talking.  Flex your shit, don't police the losers.  


But nothing is worse than the OH MY GOD cringe worthy comments on twitter lol.  Those "energizers" aren't even trying man lol.  Love this project for the tech, passion and motivation but the marketing department, ouff, need a full revamp.  Whoever was in charge of the apparel project, wow lol.  And hey guess what?  If I said that on discord, could you imagine the response?  lol I'd be banned for infinity for spreading FUD.  Is it FUD?  Or could it possible be my opinion about something?  If management is that worried about FUD, to me, that's a far bigger worry then most others.  Be strong Energi, let people talk shit and stand strong and prove people wrong with your actions, not your emotional police.  We have wives and husbands for that.  Look how fast Energi is coming out with updates, fixing node issues immediately, helping customers with super fast response times, man this stuff is awesome!!  Energi X is coming, right on everyone!!  Be proud, not so cowardly and "oh no people found Andrey's post, we shall smear Andrey (not really but kinda sorta) instead and ban any speech about that matter.  Cmon man, the strong survive and we're strong.  Show the haters we're a top notch project.  Anyways, this felt good to get out here.  I think there's solid points on both sides but i am definitely going to continue this project I believe so strongly in.  I will continue to read both sides but i will always be responsible for my own decisions and opinions, open dialogue is the only way to go here and I value all of your opinions, I hope my little rant didn't offend anyone, lol kidding, i don't give a shit if it did and you shouldn't either.  Only 2 years old guys and gals, no scam here, in my humble opinion.  BIG HUGS FOR EVERYONE ... from a distance of course

Wait what ?

This is seriously your argument here ?

We are not allowed to speak up because you blackmail us that if we speak up we are damaging the coin price ? Are you retarded ? Having withdrawals open and deposits closed i.e basically a "buy only" asset or derivative IS AGAINST THE LAW.

What nonsense NDA are you talking about ? Are you saying that if that person breaks an NDA the court of NRG decides he did and freezes his coins ?

And if you call me a scammer one more time I will add your pseudo to the current lawsuit me and my peers are building and drag you into this, whoever you are even-though its obvious you are on the team.

I wonder again why so much resources were spent on this bureaucracy and they blame one developer for the chain's shortcomings.

What a load of crap !! And you come preaching me about law ?!! Are you Craig wright's relative or something ?!

Maybe look up how to run a business before preaching about law !

You have been warned, I will sue you for libel.

NRG is acting like a scam and we have the total right to call them out go play ass licker someplace else!

the price is clearly being manipulated right now.

let's get to the facts

withdrawn from exchanges ok, working normally.
transfers between wallets ok, working normally.
possibility to sell your wallet coins on the exchanges (disabled by order of the Energi team) "security reasons" hahahaha

or are you trying to manipulate the price, or testing a new scam.

don't come here, with a big text, it doesn't matter s***
if i wanted to read big texts i would buy a book.
i want stocks, as an investor I want serious explanations,  tell me why are only deposits disabled?


about Energi "decentralized governance"
1- can you seriously prove that the entire community opted for closing deposits on exchanges? is it decentralized or not?
2 - proves to me that the value of the Bashful information reward was chosen by "decentralized governance" yea? then i will believe it.

Wow, another new account. Just keep making them. I do wonder if there is a purpose or if you just don’t keep track of your old accounts.

I clearly stated my reasons from the beginning but you respond exactly as I expect you to. If you notice, my account keeps posting, all your fake accounts stop after a post or 2 and suddenly a new account is created.

I think Energi explained it quite well but it takes some comprehension on the part of the reader for it to make sense.

And yes, I do fully believe that these brand new accounts (like yours of course) are fake accounts created by either Andrey or Bashful. I believe Bashful is more likely for the accounts since they have no clue about NDAs. Andrey does and just believes his with Energi doesn’t apply (you would have to ask him why he thinks that).

No, I can’t see an investor screwing themselves over while still hoping to get something out of it. It’s not the question about deposits as you state. Go back and read my posts, it’s explained clearly but you already have and just created this new account so you can try and show more people on your side. Really, it’s pathetic and a waste of time.

Keep creating the new accounts. It shows more and more they are all fake so I don’t need to keep responding, you prove exactly what I have said repeatedly.

lol Mergatroid dude shut your damn mouth. you're accusing everyone of being a fake account yet your account is just as new as anybody else in here.

that is such a childish and weak attempt to dismiss serious concerns.
and even if these were all one guy with fake accounts doesn't it bother you that your handlers still weren't able to precisely address and refute andy's accusations? just telling people it's fud and that's it?

chain splits are dangerous so investors have to be 'protected'? if they cared about investors and the chain they would have never launched such an unfinished project. what is your explanation that the chain is still running even though there seems to be risk for the users? normal transactions are fine, withdrawals from exchanges are fine too no risk there, but oh my the deposits to an exchange now that is an transaction that suddenly poses serious risks to our users and we have to 'protect' them? seriously i want this question answered and don't give me that lame medium article which delivers no explanation whatsoever.

also funny to see how you can't imagine an investor speaking up about the suspicious stop on deposits and communication around energi team, just goes to show that you're a coward who wouldn't voice his doubts (if you had some you poor brainwashed shill) until he can get rid of his own bags.


what kind of kindergarden logic is that hahaha, here's some advice:
form your own opinion don't just repeat what uncle tommy preached about that evil hacker Bashful, as if the dude is in here arguing with you and creating alts lmfao get a grip
then go create another 'Andreys New Account AGAIN' and call others losers to show how you don't want to waste your time here you pathetic hypocrite