Topic: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine | - page 26. (Read 44363 times)

Well,no heart feelings now old buddy old pal,just asked when World adoption and when deposits on exchanges,that were all.

Well, if you actually look, we are on multiple exchanges so I think you should look more before you start stating anything.

There is no way to know what will happen when exchanges open. People were making the same prediction for when the Earndrop was distributed and you can look into what happened there (Nov 29/30, 2019 was main distribution).

Deposits will be opened when the network is verified to be stable as has already been stated repeatedly. I know there are many people trying to spread false information but that is the way of the internet so you need to actually do your own research. So many people create brand new accounts to post or use old completely unused accounts (since people see they are older and ignore the fact they have no history) that it reinforces that need to do your research and understand rather than taking the word of people who may or may not have a reason to try to make any project look bad.

WhenWorld adoption?I guess that you first need to be exchanges adopted ;)Hey Holukai old buddy old pal,you can tell all to me ,when you open deposit on exchanges,coin will dump till $0.05,true_false?Better this way:Do not open deposits,i repeat do not open deposhits

You need to look properly and read what is posted rather than just try to spread incorrect information. As soon as I went to the link you posted I saw your mistake. You are not looking at Gen 3 but at the GEN 2 V2.4.1 wallet which will never be updated because it is for Gen 2, not Gen 3.

This is where the Gen 3 is - https://github.com/energicryptocurrency/energi3

"WE ARE WORKING TO FIX ISSUES AND OPEN DEPOSIT AGAIN SOON"

you can see this message all the time in the energi community.  ( discord ) ( Telegram ) ( Twitter )

OK.
https://github.com/energicryptocurrency/energi

Latest commit  by ( andvgal )  supposedly before he left the energi team
c9af4a4
on Mar 10

1 month without change nothing on opensource project.
who do you want to deceive?

there are very LARGE sales orders at all exchanges, surely only  the energi team coins are being sold
you can check, and see with your own eyes.

@andvgal HitBTC will list energi soon, can you contact them and show the evidence?
because for sure  first of all there will be an order to sell the Energi Team there.

NRG = scam
there is no other explanation.


it is the reality, your funds in the wallets are worthless nothing.

On behalf of legitimate coin owners, I request Energi Core to immediately stop the chain and nail to the best known block like it was done for Gen 2.

Otherwise, it is a reckless attitude to coin owners which may face issues, but then would have issues proving that they are legitimate owners.

Energi Core wants to be the plaintiff, the court and the police in the same face. I am banned from all other ways to communicate to discuss the problem.
They have already drained more than 160k of someones funds into the Compensation Fund: https://explorer.energi.network/address/0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000318/transactions
Have they gotten a court order for that? What court accepts a shill BVI company with shill beneficiaries? What kind of lawyer would participate in such scam on behalf of Energi Core?

I see that something is going on with the BlockReward contract (https://explorer.energi.network/address/0x0000000000000000000000000000000000000310/coin_balances) which sometimes lefts some rewards not distributed, but that does not explain closed deposits.
Worse, it is an exact sign that the chain must be stopped immediately to find a solution!

Do you, Energi Core, have any proof that coin owners are at risk to keep the deposits closed other than because of the chain-splits caused by staking power centralization? Do you block large coin owners to keep self centralized and do all the staking for interested parties? How much profit do exchanges get from staking and sharing 0% to users? Is that the reason why they violate own policies on delisting coins which fail to provide a solution for more than a month? There is no swap period with the Migration feature.

I believe the other issue your are fighting with is a memo left by me before leaving regarding nuances of Blacklist drainage and consequences of ownership of tokens in the smart contracts like MasternodeToken. The changes were postponed due to the code freeze for the core consensus logic. However, it is not an excuse to delay deposits.

P.S. Have anyone asked CoinMarketCap about what they think about the situation? I have already contacted them and explained in details with proofs. Try to get an answer yourself, and be surprised.

Simple, no exist decentralized governance in Energi.
Investor cant vote to open deposits again.

The question is, energi team spend alot of money to pay youtubers to promote Energi, because just coins of energi tean are in exchanges to be sold LOL.

The articles posted on medium by Andrey are quite concerning to be honest,

I mean why would someone that invested in a project go out like this without valid reason ?

I usually don't believe anything i read specially in crypto, since there are always hidden agendas, but this Developer did all the work on github he is basically the creator of the cryptocurrency and it is branded as ENERGI CORE (https://github.com/energicryptocurrency/energi/commits/master)

So i was interested in hearing what he has to say, i found his posts after intensive research since i was really frustrated that deposits are closed and i have not been able to sell any rewards or use my coins for other opportunities

There must be some legal repercussion here !

How is it that deposits are closed for over a month

And all we see on discord is brainless shilling repeating the same message "that everything will be ok "  we all know what that means usually. Exactly the opposite

And if you dare talk to any mod you get directly banned

If you try reaching to Tommy World power (lol)  he either blocks you or calls karma to punish you. I mean what the hell is happening ? Wasn't Energi supposed to be for the good of the world ?

I looked into all the addresses posted by Andrey and what he says seems to totally check out !! Yet they are labeled as FUD

I have multiple NRG masternodes I did not get to vote of locking his coins ! Where was a suggestion placed ?  I did not see that ? Anyone has ?

This is really starting to look like some crazy tyranny lead by a power hungry individual that believes he is above everyone else.

I wish there was a place we can openly discuss what is happening without 1000000 NRG suck puppets attacking concerned investors.

I never saw this before, close deposits to "security" users

How long time it???
why act like dictators?
no one has a voice, no investor can criticize the actions taken by energi, look at their twitter, you can't see any comments.

Look at their facebook, only positive comments(weird yes??)

yes, i invested in energi, and the first opportunity that i have, i will get out, but I will not stop, I will try to open the eyes of as many people as possible.

can you imagine the bitcoin halving coming on, suddenly all the cryptocurrencies going up, and you with your cryptocurrencies stuck in your wallet for a security excuse

HitBTc will list Energi soon, guess what coins are there for sale at the pump? you don't have to be so stupid to know that the energi team's coins will be.

keeping investors' cryptocurrencies locked up, without the right to be able to sell them, is a crime against investors.

Re-reading the logs of organized troll attacks which were scrolling quite fast in the public Discord channel:


If you, Energi Core, wanted to tell that it's because of a security issue in the chain, then:

1. Why the hell don't you stop the chain immediately like it was done for Gen 2? It would simplify any hardforks right now.

2. Why your hysterical leader could not tell that directly instead of abusing and threatening for 58 minutes of mostly his monologue? Why I was blocked from everywhere afterwards without further explanations before the escalation continued? Very farsighted, very, dude. The threats have never been taken back.

3. It still does not excuse the total deposit of 35,000.00 NRG done from the Treasury funds. Or would there be a phony excuse that someone was stealing from the Treasury? Or maybe the Treasury has done OTC deal for a person who surprisingly could make a large deposit before the last exchange got closed? The pattern of deposits is obvious matching the demand to buy the coin.

Our priority has always been the safety of our users, the security and stability of our network

To ensure this, exchange deposits are temporarily closed but will reopen as soon as we finish a thorough review and are confident of our network stability.

Check out the full announcement here:

https://medium.com/energi/important-update-exchange-deposits-8aad7a120b3e

NRG To the moon! 

.....

as TWP post: "My opinions are not investment advice". just read on official TWP twitter.

After this, you scare me about, you seem a so skilled, why invest on NRG after all? Be rich after 1-2 years?

I've put some money on, not at 0.30$ BUT a lot more, about 6$ and martingale some, i know crypto are a fair game, but energi put real face on, so i've understand you are put ALL your money about NRG will rise at 100$ in 1 2 3... it's not how crypto space have to resolve our debit life.

Invest your knowledge to make our, after covid, a better place.

If when nrg collapse, no problem, it's better of my BANK. Cause i know about my crypto portfolio investing on, that simple.

Believe me, nobody paid me about this :-)

Finally, I waited this whole night, Energi Core has proven to misuse their authority. They have taken the power of court to seize personal property what is consider a crime in any civil country. To be prosecuted accordingly.

Anyone can use Energi Core Node console to confirm that:


Only Tommy and Ryan have access to the EBI private key: 0x01c3bb0b90c07b89ca38f56bd9f3e8c160fec4dc

Transactions to block:
- one
- two
- three
- four

Is there anyone who would trust these scammers now? They can seize coins of anyone they do not like.

P.S. I also see this as confirmation of the deposit scam.

Re NDA, I won't repeat myself. I have no limits in what I can tell as far as it is in the interest of the public.

1. Why this is happening?

We are in the middle of a scam event. I was contacting Energi Core every day to exit this situation, but too much is at stake for them. It's not about Ego or Pride issues of their leaders, it's about the scam plot. They are not going to open deposits while BTC is low. They do not want to spend own BTC to sustain price in dumps, but they do want to use market made NRG price to buy BTC at low. They use their contractual influence on exchanges to block users completely, but a high confirmation count would be an adequate measure.

All people responsible for that are US citizens. They have to obey US law even while they hide abroad. What they do seems to be a violation of the US law, SEC rules and regulations.

2. What about Energi Core deposits?

This is public info. Some addresses have been previously identified by me and reported to Energi Core, but not vice-versa - everyone can repeat.

2.1. Gen 2 trace:

- Gen 2 Explorer
- Efe1DsD6AW6wikmcugQseTwr6NBT99GvrV is Treasury in Gen 2 as tagged inside the explorer
- EU57hLbBi6ucDy4KnRSVNKhkD9F39XpQ4Z is former KuCoin cold wallet in Gen 2
- EMyLLKDimrvz1iSjiMBnGMZiN6Es3heFfE is former KuCoin hot wallet in Gen 2
- EdcCKyMMKo71NSE3MjamNYWiFwuyfJdCfe is the main Energi deposit address at KuCoin - deducible from the history
- EKtrfi6RfRR9NcyrKGFMFt7URYQRMhQThR - assumed to be Energi Market team wallet which directly leads to the Treasury and the KuCoin deposit address.
- Total of 760703 NRG passed through it since Sep 2019. Some part of that was relocation between exchanges.
- 200k NRG went out of the Treasury to the account before the Gen 3 migration: txs Feb 21st and Feb 28th.
- Partially, they got deposited in small chunks into KuCoin not to attract much attention: txs in Feb, then Mar 4th and Mar 5th
- Exchanges were ordered to close deposits on Friday, Mar 6th. Coincidence?
- There are myriads of related interesting addresses, but let's keep our focus on one single case of the left over in a change address of the Mar 5th deposit: 55k NRG @  EcdqbExHQ3GxtfbCgwtChK3SyQqygcY2XR left during the migration.

Comments: I know that there was an internal discussion to withdraw funds from exchanges not to jeopardize them during migration, but then someone has overridden that. Someone knew that the deposits will be closed for much longer. Someone ordered to deposit much larger amounts than usually allocated for that purposes. Also, it's possible to correlate the account activity with market price in the end of 2019.

We only cover Energi Core company funds, and do not even start talking about personal funds.

2.2. Where did the remainings go during the migration?

Actually, one good thing Energi Core has done is to implement an API to look up performed migrations... And that has added a DoS vulnerability to the Public API endpoint.


So, 0x0952d9b93fe79605e99132407bc3b0cc5c15ba9b is one of the remaining of the Market funds and 0x60d7607fc1454de984441921f5aad0470d2b4962 is the new Operations Treasury from which expenses are paid.

2.3. Gen 3 trace:

- Gen 3 Explorer
- Coins got claimed in block 0x0952d9b93fe79605e99132407bc3b0cc5c15ba9b #74
- First, 30k NRG got withdrawn to the account from possibly KuCoin hot wallet 0x7F76c60b9323bf49241dEf2B456632096667C5fE on Mar 18th
- Then, a total of 85k got sent to possibly a new Energi Market wallet 0xa901c5bD7DC9894d9600843b3A8eD502437Ef4A1 on Mar 21st
- If you look closely at 0xa901c5bD7DC9894d9600843b3A8eD502437Ef4A1 transactions then you can notice an obvious pattern previously visible at Gen 2 Market fund EKtrfi6RfRR9NcyrKGFMFt7URYQRMhQThR
- Now, let's look at what looks like a deposit address 0x2D39B9177AfBEacF52518947539f79A77A0E0e25 with deposits done from the new Market fund on Apr 01 and Apr 03 to what looks like an exchange with address of for hot wallet 0x1242f8fb7B5cC1baE08DC9c71e2Ef07687579A3b and 0xcd31b17379648934C659cafB4b4398Cfa784FB88 cold wallet.
- Energi Core had to perform a second deposit because of this large sale - someone has bought a MN for 11k.

3. Conclusions

It is obvious that Energi Core has planned to keep the deposits closed while allowing withdrawals to decrease supply. It is obvious that they have done at least two deposits to an exchange from the market funds in Gen 3 chain. They have taken an advantage of the situation created by themselves and solely by themselves. Apparently, Energi Core means Fraud, Undeniable & Documented under FUD.

Officially, Energi Core positions self as a service provider for the decentralized autonomous organization - Energi Cryptocurrency. That is the reason they are not liable for any coins being lost in scams, user mistakes, etc. If they take responsibility on decision making then they take liability for any profit loss arising due to such decision.

IMO, that requires objective investigation and opinions. I am ready to witness for any plaintiff.

P.S. I withdraw my proposal for help to the "service provider" as Energi Core clearly threatened me and my family by Tommy's call in the middle of night asking if I love my family and telling how he is going to pursue me to destroy my life. He is mentally unstable and does stupid things for a head of an organization, he does not fit for a leader role in any serious one. However, this shows well how much "FUD" is in my statements.

It is banned on Discord and our other platforms because it is FUD and full of inaccuracies and outright lies.

Your article is banned from being spoken about on Discord ... could you elaborate your post script about Tommy being a "king" and the paid motivators?

My name is Andrey Galkin and I am the creator of Energi Gen 3.

I can testify that there is no technical justification to keep NRG deposits closed. The official justification was to fight scammers at migration time, but all stolen funds are blocked & in recovery process, the majority of coins have migrated during the first week. More info on the features & current problems: https://medium.com/@andvgal/cryptocurrency-of-the-3rd-generation-lessons-learned-2f36d18587f

I wanted to get as much distant from Energi Core as possible as I got fed up with Tommy's personal issues, I have left as calmly as possible and prepared the Technology department to operate in my absence, but I offered support of the software when I was leaving. I have even offered to release v3.1.0 for FREE when I saw Energi Core impotence to fix arising issues. I have been offering my support to Tommy and Ryan FOR FREE, but Energi Core has rejected all my proposals, because they are interested in keeping the deposits closed. It is a new form of scam IMO.

I have been SCAMMED as any other Energi user. All exchanges obey the orders of Energi Core - I have contacted some of them today to confirm. Even CoinEx has closed deposits, but it has added NRG by their own discretion and was the only one accepting deposits for some time. Even with some now rare arising chainsplits, it would be possible to accept deposits with 1000-2000 confirmations, but they do not allow even that on purpose. Freshly issued dynamic checkpoints still work as they have only broken handshake checkpoints with zero testing of the changes after v3.0.2.

I already have a working node software with even more fixes than I have identified in the article, but Energi Core rejects any help.

Meanwhile, the trading have not been stopped. Worse, I am more than sure that exchanges accept manual deposits from Energi Core to keep up in the CMC list. Some of them did not even have Gen 2 funds.