Enforce “grammarly ” like score minimum to post.. - page 3.

Plaguedeath

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I don't think it's good idea to make such limitation because theymos already stated it's not need to be perfect English, I think 70% score is considered well written since they need to look at the grammar, not misspelled or using an incorrect words. I'd say it's better if they check the misspelled and try to use more appropriate words, because some people blatantly using google translate from their local language to English and that's make the sentence is odds.

I'm example of not a perfect English and I try my best to express my own opinion, I think even my grammar is bad, you can still understand what I'm trying to say it's? At least it doesn't make you confuse.

Just let you know, everyday when I have free time I always try to learn English to write more correctly, but I'm not sure where's the problem since I still couldn't write like a native, perhaps it take times.

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 03:58:25 PM

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If you are fluent in any language other than English, then it is highly encouraged for you to post in your local board. These boards often have tight-knit communities which will be able to help you, and in some ways you might be at an advantage compared to English-only posters.

In the English sections, only English is allowed. It is not necessary to speak perfect English, though you should be understandable. Try your best. If you're unsure whether your English is good enough, ask in your local board or in the Beginners & Help section

However this kind idea is similar like newbie jail where theymos disagree about it and would damage the forum nature.

Quote from: theymos on June 24, 2018, 10:16:59 PM

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Interesting idea, and I can't say I've every seen it suggested before (though I think there have been similar proposals).

Problem: Theymos doesn't seem to be inclined to make any sort of changes like this. He's very much a freedom of expression type of person, and I'm assuming part of that means giving a lot of latitude when it comes to members not being great writers. Even hitting a 70% score on either grammar/spelling or both would just lead to a lot of complaints and frustration--and though it might cut down on bots and spammers, the resulting outcry of displeasure would probably outweigh the benefits.

Another problem: There are a lot of members who have a lot of trouble with English, yet they're very valuable to the community. I wouldn't want to see their contributions erased simply because of a language barrier. I don't think your proposal would help them, either, not if all they got was a message saying their post didn't hit the arbitrary threshold set by the forum.

Is Jet Cash still around? He used to be really into helping members with their English, and a couple of years ago he had a website devoted to that and invited everyone who was interested....and IIRC, he didn't get many takers.

Poker Player

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It is good to make proposals like this and I have made some myself but I guess we are aware that theymos is not very given to changing things on the forum.

Going to the point, I don't see many posts with poor English grammar. There are some, yes, but I don't see a big problem. I don't know if it is because we usually visit different sections of the forum because I don't see you very much.

Also, I would say that the problem is going improve naturally because nowadays online translators work quite decently and will continue to improve in the future, so I think that users who write in English and are not native speakers will use them more and more. Even professional translators use automatic translators and what they do is to revise the text afterwards, making small changes (unless they are translating poetry for example).

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Some kind of spell check like tool with a score..
If your writing doesn’t score a 70% or whatever, it won’t let you post..

Could also help users LEARN English better/faster by forcing them to put effort into correcting their writing.
Have it with the change suggestions and such so it helps them fix it..

Would put a good dent in rapid posting shitposters too.. Almost even like a bot filter..

Imagine if all the spam on this forum suddenly had to meet a grammar score standard, lmao..
It could possibly be revolutionary in posting quality improvement..
What percentage of shitposts on this forum would even come close to like a 30% grammar score?
It could wipe out so much utter trash..

Many shitposts I see, I can hardly even believe are created by humans at all..
Even low end chat bots are much better..

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