Topic: Enjoy communism (III) rats eating dead people and people eating rats in NK - page 4. (Read 548 times)

Communism can't work.  At least not if there are human beings involved; that's been proven over and over, and no more experiments need to be run as far as I'm concerned.  Capitalism has its problems, of course, but I think even the poorest person in a capitalist society would prefer that system over communism, where their personal situation would probably be even worse.

As long as North Korea isn't planning on nuking any other country, I say let them be.  I'm tired of the US or any other country (but it's usually the US) trying to be the global police.  If North Koreans rise up and smash their dictator, that would be the best thing for them.  If another country went in and deposed him, who knows what could happen.  We could have another Vietnam or some other huge disaster that could result in lives being lost unnecessarily. 

I sympathize with the citizens of North Korea and wish them well, but what can or should the world do about their woes?  They need to rise up and fight, IMO, if they're tired of being under the thumb of a dictatorship.

The problem with all this is that there has not been any country that called itself communist and that followed at least in the basics the ideas of Marx, that did not end up in totalitarianism, repression and starving the population. Not one.

So, a theory that when applied repeatedly is a disaster in all cases is a garbage theory. It is not that it is badly applied, no, it is that it is a big piece of shit.

Let us not forget, calling something communism does not mean it's comunism. There is not one single word in the writings of Marx or Engels where it's noted that a communist regime needs to be a totalitarian dictatorship. And that's what NK is, a totalitarian dictatorship. So were a bunch of other regimes that disguised themselves under the communist flag. But ya know what, there are a bunch of other dictatorships that have nothing to do with communism and are still repressive regimes. I was born in a socialist regime that eventually broke down because of right-wing aspirations disguised under the banner of ''freedom''. As things are going right now, I can tell you for a fact that the situation of an average woman or man was better in socialism (in my country) than it is now and it's constantly going downhill. And what did the so-called seekers of freedom that opposed communism brought to my country? More corruption, thievery, and economic despair, and religious oppression in quantities never seen before in socialism (in my country).

Please, don't mix political theories with real-life adoptions and someone calling something a certain name. I can tell you from my experience, that ''communism'' you are talking about is not communism but rather a monarchy wrapped into a totality regime.

Since you cannot verify the truth of what he says, his statements cannot be taken as a description of what is happening in North Korea.
I have read some information about this country and it does not seem that its condition is as dire as it happens in Venezuela, but it still has the basics of life such as food and drink.
For example, when talking about trains, I expect that many people are countryside, so they do not need to go to the capitals as we do.
Also, the electricity and energy crises make the country poor, but it is not so bad that people leave hungry.
Finally, the regime in Venezuela exercises absolute power, and therefore it is natural that we witness the absence of freedoms and economic collapse.

This is one of the severe issues of the contemporary communist regime. They monopolize information so people don't know what's the actual decent life out there. They don't know if eating rats (for example) is bad. They don't know if they can actually criticize the government, and then they think if their suffering is because foreign countries hate them.

Anyway, related to the economic issues, we all know that centralized planning doesn't work because no one can know what will happen in the future. Communism could work if Merlin-like economist with his almighty crystal ball exists, aside from the corruption issues.

Today we continue with another chapter of the series: enjoy communism, lest we forget.

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The other day I saw an interview by JR with Yeonmi Park, who escaped from NK, which you can see here:

Yeonmi Park Details Horrific Effects of North Korean Starvation

That I found shocking. We don't know as much about NK as we do about Cuba or Venezuela because, for example, people don't have access to the internet, so videos of what the government doesn't want to be seen, such as food queues and empty supermarket shelves in Venezuela, are not leaked.

I'll summarize some points for those of you who can't or don't want to see it.

1) A distance that you would travel by train in one hour in a western country, can take you a month, because the train only runs once a month and the train only runs once a month and there is not much electricity in NK, so sometimes people have to push their trains.
2) Talking about her childhood, if her mum went away to find food, she never knew if she was going to see her again. People didn't have phones or couldn't write letters (it seems that nowadays it is allowed to a certain extent but people don't have internet access.
3) People usually died in train stations, they were piled and as they were rigid, they seemed piled wood. Seeing those dead bodies for her was completely normal, as normal as water is for fish.
4) They don't have running water. They have to go to the springs or wells to bring drinking water home. She describes a situation where she went to get water, and there was a boy begging for money, with part of his organs out, surrounded by flies and dogs surrounding him as well. She did not feel anything, as it was something usual, like seeing dead bodies.
5) When she was 13, she had stomach ache. They don't have x-rays or anything. She was operated on, without anesthesia. They don't have penicilin. It you have to get an injection, the nurse uses the same needle for everyone, so the chances of you catching something in the hospital are high.
6) They don't have indoor WC for the patient. When she went outside she could see piles of dead bodies and rats eating human eyes. There were also hungry children around trying to catch the rats. When they did, they sometimes eat them raw. As a result, some of the children got sick and died.
7) It's an entire country in a perpetual state of starvation. When she was there, she never eat until she was full. She was always hungry.

This is a single interview from a person who lived there and someone could argue that it is biased, but searching the net we can see other similar testimonials, for example:

Train platforms full of dead bodies, cleaning filthy toilets with bare hands and eating rats to survive: North Korean defector reveals harsh reality of life inside brutal labour camps


Let us not forget. There has not been a single communist regime, not one that did not work, but one that did not starve to death and repress its population.