Topic: Era’s really do come to an end (Read 324 times)

Nowadays people does things due to what they see that are coming out of it, and of course during our days in school you would want to study mechanical engineering immediate your parents knows that you want to choose that as a course of study you would see them stopping you immediately they have knowledge that Doctors are well paid, they stresses you to study medicine in school so after graduation you gets employed and started earning higher as they have dreamed.

But here, there is something they don't know about, first they don't know if your Interest is to study what they asked you or not but, to obey your parents you wouldn't have any choice than doing what they asked you to do. Same is applicable to your questions or what you want people to discuss here.

People knows that in football there is a huge payment if they finally becomes successful with it, but then most of them only put the interest to get recognized and after which they get to well known clubs to play you wouldn't see them having that passion instead they would focused on the amount to be paid by their clubs making it that hard for their clubs to pay, but most times when the clubs noticed their importance in their team they wouldn't have any choice to pay just to keep them on their clubs due to their performances.

What you see is common in every sector today, be it the entertainment industry same things happens, they aren't out there for the entertainment anymore but as a competitions to their fellow stars since they are being paid specific amount they also increases their values.

I've seen the news that Neymar left Saudi Arabia and I don't see anything unusual with that. If I am an athlete and makes a lot of money playing for a few games and bringing some money to the team where I'll sign, I deserve that money because I've trained all my life for it.

So, it's the same as us being employed and trying to look for better deals and offers outside our company. And whoever gives us some good money then it all means that we're valuable and worth it for them.

Just as what the title says, each of them leaves a legacy and they have their own eras to make.

I think all of this has happened from time to time, nothing really ends because all of this goes as it is. like the fact that you present, there are many professional athletes/players who want to move clubs because they want to get a big salary, at the same time many players/athletes are demanding a salary increase for their new contract. currently Saudi presents something for players who are interested in playing in their league, some are interested and not a few are still continuing their mission and ambition to compete at the European level. whatever the reason, it's all because of choice. I'm not sure, but it seems like you only see everything on the surface. global media says, currently sports has become an industry that brings in a lot of money in it. maybe we agree, the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over but not with the passion of football itself. after all, currently we see many young talents emerging, although not yet reaching the peak stage achieved by the two mega stars in the history of football. IMO, this is not a problem, but it depends on how you look at it.

@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.

Sports nowadays give players more opportunities like the old days; even Messi and Ronaldo you mentioned are not immune to chasing money. What they love is playing football and displaying their skill, and at the same time, making money while doing what they love.

I don't see anything wrong with them moving to a better area that gives them better pay opportunities. Aside from moving into small leagues and teams, they are also there to play football. The other difference is the type of trophy that they are limited to.

I don’t think such rules can be implemented as we see that no one is really to settle for less. Not even gambling companies now sponsors

When I first read your post, I could only be silent because I think there is some truth to it. Especially in your words, it's all about money.
So what do we want now if the condition of the football sport that we follow and watch every season is like that? Rich clubs can buy any player.
Then we will only see this situation continue to our children and grandchildren?
The most likely thing that can change all of this lies in the players themselves. It could also be done by implementing rules agreed upon by parties who have the capacity regarding this.

Football like every other professional sports are people's careers and you would expect them to play for money because it's a job for them. What has changed is that a lot of money and glamour has entered into top sports like football and players wants to get a piece of everything. Every player wants to retire very rich and so they want to play in top leagues where they can make a lot of money. I agree that it's about the money for them and you can't blame them for it, infact transfer speculations are one of the factors that makes modern football to become very interesting.

It's not only happening in soccer. Look at the NFL and how some players are unselfish and willing to restructure their contracts so that the team can spend some money on a free agent that can help them win vs those that will not restructure and want all the money they can get. NBA players that will delay signing a contract unless they get offered a max deal. The LIV golf league that paid millions to take players away from PGA before they all merged.

People in all sports are chasing the bag. The world is greedy. Shit happens I suppose. I'm sure players still have some passion left in them, but doesn't change the fact that they want to get paid and have security for their families or their habits.

Someone said the introduction of gambling has made everyone focus on making money rather than having passion for the game. Also everyone is focus on marketing and promoting games, which has also made the players want to have this own percentage from it too.

doesn’t it come hand in hand? ronaldo and messi wouldn’t have been known for who they are today if they weren’t picked up by the big leagues

to be a legend would mean you would also be one of the highest paid players because for you to be paid highly it means your talent and skills are needed by the club it is the equivalent of wanting to be promoted in a job even if it is not in football
we can apply this logic everywhere if you keep going for your passion but it doesn’t make any money, will you really continue it still even if it is making you and your family suffer already? most jobs are not done by people who are passionate about them

Yes actually this has a lot to do with how the game and players are managed lately. Gone are the days when football was totally for entertainment, now it's more of a business activity.

There's lots of endorsements, sponsorships and promotions that clubs are entitled to, so players want to get their own fair share of it.

Agents negotiate high allowances for these players and most times they opt for the clubs that can afford their exorbitant fees rather than the ideal club for them to perform optimally.

We can't judge them about their choices because for sure they have other personal considerations that we are not seeing here. Of course, as a fan or follower, you would hope that they won't choose owed to money alone. However, at the end of the day, it is their life and we don't now what they are going thru why opting for such route. So for me, I don't incriminate them for choosing that path, because I don't know their considerations or struggles in life.

On the other hand players might really perform very well in this high stakes environment, specially if they have been well payed by the Saudi. So I also disagree with that kind of money that players are just here for the money and not have the passion like the old days. Of course, era ends, the type of game play will evolved overtime, but it doesn't mean that in this new era, players are just focus on the money itself.

So elite athletes could have elevated their game because they are motivated and doesn't want that trust the the management give to them with that huge contract to be just go out of the window by not playing very hard or doesn't have the passion as if just going to the motions. They should have known better than that.

Many big stars came out of football for reaching a ripe age. It's normal, it's the natural course of things. 

But I can't understand why the two of these chose to go to sub par teams just for marketing and money purposes. They could have retired and live a happy life gracefully already as multi millionaires. The era's end was kind of spoiled by that for me.

And it feels too much of a sellout now. I think this will also make it harder for future generations to appreciate what we had because it's all marketing, no heart now.

Years go by, but when it comes to gambling, people's way of thinking hasn't changed at all. Most people continue to get involved in gambling because of money. Regarding football, Ronaldo and Messi also charge very high salaries. They're not just playing for passion. Twenty years ago, players were more dedicated. They weren't playing to appear in pretty photos on social media or in newspapers. But nowadays, players on the field are worried about looking good in photos, because their marketing manager tells them that they need to score goals in X and X positions so that the photo will attract more interest from companies.

This has been seen already as a common tradition because some people will only to infatuated to gamble because of the money they are likely to receive from it, that is if they win, while some will only be more focused to how they are going to get entertained in it, but having this two mixed reactions is what is inevitable in the gambling section, we may have to choose the type of gambler we also belong to here.


Have there not been players who have shown more commitments and skills before the two of them in time past, their own time is gone and now its about Messi and Ronaldo, which in due time also, we are going to have some new era of players to take over soon from them and be more better in their own style.

Not because they are asking for more money or negotiating for a better deal, they lose their passion on the sports they are playing.
They can't negotiate for a better deal if the team sees that the player has no passion, skill, or will to win because teams are looking for players who can contribute to the team's success.
Players are not your regular contract workers; they know their worth, and they want to negotiate for a better deal in exchange for their passion and skills.

I am sure that this was what people also said during the Pele and Maradona era.
People also would have said this during the Kaka and Ronaldinho era.

Nobody is the custodian of football passion
And we shouldn't be worried about passion for football ending with Ronaldo and Messi because I don't understand what that is.

Fans should calm down and judge the football passion based on how much people are still interested in watching the game.
They should also jusdge football passion by how much the game has improved.

Saudi Arabia is doing what they can to attract top talent and they have the money for it. After Messi moved to America for the money and Ronaldo did the same for the money. Yes, you can both play for the passion and money.

So you think Messi and Ronaldo didn’t play for the pay at any point in their life? If they had so much passion for the sport they could have just stayed in the little league and played there as far as they decided to play for the top teams and also receive nice pay I’ll say that they too were there for the pay just that they had so many options due to their talents and past records while those we’re seeing now are not like them so it will look as if they are just there eagerly looking for a way to up their pay or career.