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January 29, 2025, 03:25:45 PM
#47

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
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So you think Messi and Ronaldo didn’t play for the pay at any point in their life? If they had so much passion for the sport they could have just stayed in the little league and played there as far as they decided to play for the top teams and also receive nice pay I’ll say that they too were there for the pay just that they had so many options due to their talents and past records while those we’re seeing now are not like them so it will look as if they are just there eagerly looking for a way to up their pay or career.
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January 29, 2025, 03:20:01 PM
#46
I don't fully agree because there are still some different thoughts in assessing why players prefer to play in a league that is more dominant in getting money than a career.
The fact is that players go for money and that is just it. Just that their career in the process is also intertwined with money and of course, success. The simple way to know this is that if there is no more money in sport today, you will not see those players that is working hard to play for their country and aiming to get into one of the best clubs in the world not play sport anymore but go to other fields instead where they can see opportunities. Everything is about money.
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January 29, 2025, 03:06:01 PM
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I don't fully agree because there are still some different thoughts in assessing why players prefer to play in a league that is more dominant in getting money than a career.

If a player's goal before being famous is to aspire to become a professional player who plays in a famous league and club. That takes effort and hard work. Not necessarily a rich club like the Saudi league will bring in players without knowing the player and not all players want to quickly end their fame because they play in a league and team that is ready to pay them more salary and contract.

After the Messi and Ronaldo era ends, there will be another era of great players. You have to believe that.
Regarding money, yes rich clubs can get the players they want. That's not good enough.
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January 29, 2025, 02:56:42 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful
Sports is a business, being an athlete is not a forever career and that's why they're deciding for their fate and future. If a player transfers from here and there negotiating with better terms and contract, it's because that's how it goes. It's a normal business for them to secure a large paycheck that will satisfy them. They've got millions? they want more and they deserve that based on their assumptions while some doesn't and still get a huge secured contract. So, there is nothing new when it comes to these and that's why being an athlete isn't all about physicality and the passion for the sports but also being business minded.
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January 29, 2025, 02:51:37 PM
#43
Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful



Nothing new under the sun, I think. I know what you are talking about when you say the passion for football seems to have faded away with the end of the dominance of Messi and Ronaldo, opening a path to new players who may not be as interested in becoming legends, but only partake in football (and other sports) for the sake of profit and to get better contracts in foreign leagues.
One cannot blame them, though, it does not matter what profession one has chosen to earn money, one will always move towards where the best salaries and contracts are, one does not need to be a football player to experience that. if anyone in my family was given the opportunity to start from the beginning in a company, with a better salary, more spare time and even medical benefits, it would be a no-brainer, the change would be almost instant. The same is happening to the new generation of football players and sport professionals, before thinking of what the sport means to them, then need to secure their future economically.
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January 29, 2025, 12:42:59 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


I personally am just not happy when there are young players with great potential, but choose to be willing to play in the Saudi Pro League. That is clearly a very unfortunate choice if it happens, because so far their transfers are still based on rumors but as time goes by, they might be willing to accept the Saudi Arabian offer. But about the passion for football, for me there is still passion in young players, they just need time and process, the reality is that football is still interesting even though Ronaldo and Messi are no longer playing in the top Europe team.

The passion for football is clearly still very much felt, unlike MotoGP when V. Rossi decided to retire, the passion at MotoGP seems to have completely disappeared. About bets that prioritize profit, for me it is the same as in the past. After all, their target in betting is to get money with the pleasure of winning. So, only a handful of gamblers really throw away a lot of money in gambling just for the pleasure of adrenaline.
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January 29, 2025, 12:29:57 PM
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Soccer players definitely seem to have longer eras than other athletes in other sports. My favorite dynasties are the ones in the NBA with teams though. The 90s Bulls. The 80s Celtics. The 2000s Lakers. The 2010s Golden State Warriors… Some of those teams were real fun to watch and left a lasting impact. Love to see it.
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January 29, 2025, 12:16:02 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


Actually we can never compare now and before, because during Ronaldo and Messi's time they were playing with passion and skills. Although things was not really as it is right now, but even as that they were just trying their best to make their teams proud and it normally takes time before you hear anything like injury on them. However, I think one thing that is killing most players today is just injuries, when they just play one or two games before you no it they enter injury again. Of course the Saudi Arabia side have really make it more easier for players now, because most of them don't really care about the passion again, they are just after the huge amount of money.
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January 29, 2025, 11:57:02 AM
#39
I thought it was just a mere opinion or rumor people share nothing else not until op mentioned Saudi Arabia, at some point players run after the money, it’s really affecting most players for example playing for a team with low competition and potential will actually reduce a player not minding the kind of money they earn. In all this we still have the real ones so I will not accept the fact, although I will not mistaking this words “knowing your worth and playing for the money not just the passion” it’s different when big teams sign big names because they know the worth and how valuable a good player can be.
The Saudi Arabia new this and decided to use their money to bring in what they want even knowing their league isn’t a top competitive league.
One can say Ronald worth is what’s earning him a huge paycheck after so much hard work and passion in years back.
Can’t say same for most players that had decided to go there even when they have no major legacy in the world of football.
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January 29, 2025, 11:56:39 AM
#38
I know several cases of players of my favorite team that have been tempted with many millions and prefer to stay at home, with much less money, but with the people, friends and family near. Which is what I think that I would do too, but that I'll never truly know because you have to live that situation to know it for sure.
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January 29, 2025, 11:56:23 AM
#37
Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful

Many players who played football decades ago were not rich. Most of them claim that they played for passion but I am not sure all of them had such mindset. Many of them never had the opportunity to make money because most clubs were not paying as high as they pay currently. It seems that almost all clubs have a minimum wage all players regardless of their quality will earn. I am sure that many of them would have played for money if they had the chance.

These days there are many mediums by which clubs can make money, so paying players high is justifiable. I don't also blame players who play for money because the world is going through severe economic problems. They need to make enough money to sustain themselves and family.

However, there are still many players who play for passion, therefore I don't agree that the era has come to an end. Many players have refused to go to the Saudi Professional League because they still have a passion for the game.
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January 29, 2025, 11:44:58 AM
#36
Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful



Even in the time of Ronaldo and Messi same shit. A lot of surprise results, this has not ended nor started now, it has started the moment soccer teams were being quoted in bookmakers with different odds for a win, draw or lose. It is exactly there that surprise results started and not so good football overall. I will make the same example I have made previously when answering other people in the same matter, back in time of Maradona in Italy and a few years later do you think were these much surprise results as we see now in Serie A, absolutely not, games were coming as expected because no money and betting was involved, as soon as betting started, surprise results almost every week started happening, only blind people do not see this.
Man I use to have this thought but was not really convinced that it was true. Now you’re making sense
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January 29, 2025, 11:42:09 AM
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Do you think the players just like to play in those top European leagues clubs? The players are chasing good career so that they can play in those good clubs. If they are not chasing career, they could just stay in the country league if it is about passion. There is nothing like passion when it comes to money, but the players can enjoy playing in the clubs they are.
Players get paid based on what they bring to the table and clubs are Willing to offer such amounts because of the results they expect from such a player, for example, players like Harry Kane who is getting a whooping £400, 000 per week from Bayern Munich is rated as the world's best strikers, so the higher the money the bigger the player's ratings.


You can't expect clubs to offer huge amounts to average or poor-performing players, so the players themselves will have to first know their own worth and clubs price tag them as offers in the market.
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January 29, 2025, 11:26:30 AM
#34
Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful



Even in the time of Ronaldo and Messi same shit. A lot of surprise results, this has not ended nor started now, it has started the moment soccer teams were being quoted in bookmakers with different odds for a win, draw or lose. It is exactly there that surprise results started and not so good football overall. I will make the same example I have made previously when answering other people in the same matter, back in time of Maradona in Italy and a few years later do you think were these much surprise results as we see now in Serie A, absolutely not, games were coming as expected because no money and betting was involved, as soon as betting started, surprise results almost every week started happening, only blind people do not see this.
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January 29, 2025, 11:19:31 AM
#33
Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.
Players have a right to choose their focus.

There are still footballers and sportsmen who are engaged in sports for the passion they have for it. Some of these people have refused huge financial deals that they knew would steer their career away from the target they had set for themselves. Money is not as enticing to every sportsperson as you will think.
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January 29, 2025, 11:13:52 AM
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Before you judge football players for not having the passion for football again, have you thought of other works of life people find themselves in? How is it? Don't people get paid according to their worth, what they can offer, or the impact they can make in the working environment they find themselves? Take, for example, office work; people get paid according to the degree certificate and the level of experience they have gathered. In this forum, also, don't you see how higher-rank forum members are paid higher than lower-rank members in signature campaigns, despite having a passion for this forum.

What I am trying to say is everyone on earth has their worth because they have put in their time, money, strength, talent, knowledge, and skills for years before they get to the level they are. You don't expect them to get paid with an average amount, not to accept or consider higher pay when it comes. They will grab it with open arms since it still has the same work etiquette
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January 29, 2025, 11:06:23 AM
#31
I thought it was just a mere opinion or rumor people share nothing else not until op mentioned Saudi Arabia, at some point players run after the money, it’s really affecting most players for example playing for a team with low competition and potential will actually reduce a player not minding the kind of money they earn. In all this we still have the real ones so I will not accept the fact, although I will not mistaking this words “knowing your worth and playing for the money not just the passion” it’s different when big teams sign big names because they know the worth and how valuable a good player can be.
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January 29, 2025, 09:57:30 AM
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Well, it's a normal thing, times have indeed changed and we can't expect it to remain the same, change is constant. I have actually noticed this for a long time but I didn't really think it was an important observation. Athletes are not as energetic and passionate like the legends in Old times. There are focused on making money now because the world isn't what it used to be, money has become the order of the day. This isn't just happening in football it's happening in every sport right now but I wouldn't generalize this, there are still players who put in energy and passion in what they do.
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January 29, 2025, 09:25:06 AM
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Could the economic situation in the region contributes on why these athletes demands higher pay? Because to me, it is often the case. Its not about the lack of passion, they do have passion for the sport they are into. They are motivated but they are not going to feel as a whole if they think their future aren't secure along with their family. We all want the best for our family.

They still play though and they may give their best if their demands are granted.
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January 29, 2025, 09:24:14 AM
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I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.
So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.


Aside Passion I think everyone always have a target to be in a better place and position so even with much passion for the club they aim for things higher and bigger of course no one wants to be stucked in a place and besides you can't compare the era of then and now cause there's huge difference in every aspects. This days people tend to stay where they can benefit more aside the fact that they are showcasing their skills or the other so it's applicable to the footballers they want to get the big bag and be in the top winning clubs and all that so they are actually responding to changes of life.
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