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Topic: ESCROW NEEDED - 20 BTC phisher arrest bounty; up to 1 BTC payment (Read 1459 times)

legendary
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What you are doing is just diversion and distraction.
Some people will see it - others won't.

I've presented the evidence - it is up to others to decide what they think of it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113
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Since the nature of the discussion needs to be protected and should be in the Investigation section, also it is obvious that the OP needs the attention here for his original topic he created for TF/CL (whatever) business (he could look for an escrow easily if he really needed the service) -  my response for you is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113 (2nd part)

This is what you say:
https://youtu.be/EzO0Y6SoSt8?t=67
Uday is a very honest, he has intgrity . Uday is a very good guy.

This is what others say:
https://www.scamfinance.com/mypayingads-com-review-the-hyip-ponzi-that-just-wont-die/
Uday Nara – apparently a very well-known scammer in online get-rich-quick circles
The operation has “gone under” a few times already, yet its pushers simply refuse to let it all die.


This is what you say about revshare and traffic monsoon:
https://youtu.be/UBGLYNO8EoE

Code:
https://trafficmonsoon.com/?ref=mdayonliner
(your ref llink)

This is what the SEC says:
http://behindmlm.com/mlm/regulation/sec-reaffirms-adcredit-opportunities-are-illegal-ponzi-schemes/
http://behindmlm.com/companies/sec-shutdown-of-traffic-monsoon-the-facts/
http://portal-redirect.epiq11.com/TMON/document/GetDocument.aspx?DocumentId=3127446 (Actual SEC complaint)


Nothing manipulated or biased about that - It is explained in your own words.


I though you had 7 days time (from May the 24th) to bring up everything and you already did. Look I really do not have time to chit/chat with you all my life with the nonsenses you bring up. My response in here explains everything and I will not response you anymore unless anyone else (a reasonable one) points me anything else and ask an explanation.

Please visit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113
legendary
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Anything relevant to "escrow" applications and their member's credibility is not off topic. Suggesting people delete their posts and post them somewhere else is not very ethical especially trying to convince them and moderators it is on topic, when it actually is. This post as well is on topic, discussing the situation of scam escrows and random people wanting 100 grand thrown at them to "keep safe".

This guy's red tag is well deserved. Might as well consider this a scammer baiting thread Grin Grin Grin
That's the only thing this thread will be helpful for.
For 100k, any russian cyber security firm will do this job.
No idea what OP was thinking while creating this thread.Maybe hype?


Perhaps the OP can place it on escrow with two escrow agents in a multisig account. Like suggested here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41874894
sr. member
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Anything relevant to "escrow" applications and their member's credibility is not off topic. Suggesting people delete their posts and post them somewhere else is not very ethical especially trying to convince them and moderators it is on topic, when it actually is. This post as well is on topic, discussing the situation of scam escrows and random people wanting 100 grand thrown at them to "keep safe".

This guy's red tag is well deserved. Might as well consider this a scammer baiting thread Grin Grin Grin
That's the only thing this thread will be helpful for.
For 100k, any russian cyber security firm will do this job.
No idea what OP was thinking while creating this thread.Maybe hype?
hero member
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Anything relevant to "escrow" applications and their member's credibility is not off topic. Suggesting people delete their posts and post them somewhere else is not very ethical especially trying to convince them and moderators it is on topic, when it actually is. This post as well is on topic, discussing the situation of scam escrows and random people wanting 100 grand thrown at them to "keep safe".

This guy's red tag is well deserved. Might as well consider this a scammer baiting thread Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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This is off-topic here. Discussing about this issue will bring distraction only for the goal OP is trying to achieve. I suggest you to delete the post and move the contents either on this topic or on this topic. The second one is more appropriate.

It is too late here. So, you are not going to get any response now from me. Tomorrow I have a busy day but I will find some of my time to reply. The delay of my reply will also going to give you some more time if you want to edit/tweak your post.

PS: I am happy that you improved a lot and actually started to contribute for the forum (content creation and merit history backs up my claim) after I picked you on you and Lafu case. Before the incident - your concentration was only in Lafu and cryptopia support thread.

It is not off topic - you brought it up in your first post. It was a reply to what YOU posted. http://archive.is/IfFdo

Yet another attempt to silence me.

Cryptopia forum closed recently. So I moved to post more on Bitcointalk - and only because I found how much history is on here.

My posting on here more has nothing to do with you. It was something that The Pharmacist said and what Eddie13 said about the cryptopia/btct - Hatfield/McCoy rivalry.
It lead to me having a closer look at what bitcointalk had to offer and resulted in this research. Other peoples enthusiasm for the history on here is why I am here more. Otherwise I would probably only made a few posts between then and now.


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So, he started to troll me everywhere and ended up doing all sorts of investigations

I started one thread in meta and moved your info to investigations so google can't index it.

Further reply here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--4221113
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This is off-topic here. Discussing about this issue will bring distraction only for the goal OP is trying to achieve. I suggest you to delete the post and move the contents either on this topic or on this topic. The second one is more appropriate.

It is too late here. So, you are not going to get any response now from me. Tomorrow I have a busy day but I will find some of my time to reply. The delay of my reply will also going to give you some more time if you want to edit/tweak your post.

PS: I am happy that you improved a lot and actually started to contribute for the forum (content creation and merit history backs up my claim) after I picked you on you and Lafu case. Before the incident - your concentration was only in Lafu and cryptopia support thread.
legendary
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My Facebook, LinkedIn, business website everything has been bought publicly. There was a manipulated biased investigation (backup screenshots #1, #2 and #3 ) against me by a member because I made him upset for merit abusing. So, he started to troll me everywhere and ended up doing all sorts of investigations just to humiliate me in the community. In the process he basically pulled almost everything about me on his investigation topic. So my identity is fairly open. Anything unpleasant from me will ruin my career and the reputation I have earned in the community which I won't let it happen.

I agree that your identity is open and information was easy to find.

The investigation is not biased. You drew attention to yourself so I looked into who you are and reported your actions.

All the information provided is accurate to the best of my knowledge and if there is anything that is not - I will happily edit it when proof of inaccuracy is provided.


You expressed your opinion about me and opened numerous threads in which it was discussed. When I challenged you on the accusation and you didn't get the result you were wanting you opened more threads. Perhaps you can show me where you did that to anyone else ?

That fact is not hidden and for fairness I have mentioned on numerous occasions that you accused me of merit abuse. The accusation was thoroughly discussed here: here and here. You have kept repeating the same accusations every time I have criticized you.

The conclusion was that no merit was intentionally swapped and that on one occasion I gave merit to a post that was not well worded but was helping a user. I maintain that Lafu helps out many users on Bitcointalk and myself and many others feel that he deserves merit. As a precaution both Lafu and myself decided to avoid giving merit to each other to avoid even a hint of impropriety. I maintain that there was no conspiracy to swap merit and both my posts and Lafus posts have received merit from many other users.
I don't care much for rank or status since I don't participate in campaigns or bounties. I could have easily been a higher ranking member if I had made more posts since 2016.

On a number of occasions you have attempted to bait me which I ignored.
 
I even asked a DT member I know not to tag you (not that I would be able to control that - it was only a request since I was concerned about perception towards that member) so it would be judged fairly on the merits of the accusation.

The trolling accusation is also unfair. Other than pointing out what I disagreed with I did not "stalk", "follow" or "troll" you on this forum.

On a number of occasions I had you on ignore and others alerted me of yet more accusations towards me.

I edited some of my posts to be fairer or clearer and to take into account comments that others made criticizing my accusations. I also have the unfortunate situation where I am dyslexic so make a lot of mistakes and often have to re-read and edit them.

Not once did I try to silence or limit your input - like you attempted to do to me on numerous occasions. Here and your now deleted timer post and abusive posts. Here and here

I didn't troll your posts - I only responded to posts where I was mentioned.

You make about 5 threads for topics that can be in just one and then complain when people post in all 5.

People who know me will vouch that I do not let my opinion of someone cloud my judgement to deliberately misrepresent their character.

Likewise I will not let my opinion of someone cloud my judgement if they scam someone. It will call it out for how I see it.

People who criticize me fairly and ethically often end up as friends or gain my respect. Those that turn out to be hypocrites do not.





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You got tagged already you Ponzi promoter, did you really think people are going to hand you 20BTC especially after the recent scandal of being a long term Ponzi promoter?
I got tagged, I have explanations and let me handle it with hilariousandco. I do not need your input. Just stop following me.
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I'd like to suggest you to use SebastianJu, one of the most trusted forum escrows or maybe Quickseller would like to hold these 20 Bitcoins to make 40 total unpaid Bitcoins along with those other 20 Bitcoins he has for doing something but he didn't do it?

I withdraw my interest.

You got tagged already you Ponzi promoter, did you really think people are going to hand you 20BTC especially after the recent scandal of being a long term Ponzi promoter?

@OP, you can't make local rules to stop anybody from posting here, you could however post a self-moderated topic to delete any post you don't like.
hero member
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Look at how many people are jumping up like moths to a flame to hold an incredible amount of money Grin So how would a bounty like this be determined even if there was an "arrest record" which could likely be forged? Also, any lawsuit would probably be able to be forged as well, or even take an existing arrest and make it seem connected? You couldn't pay somebody enough to have to deal with all the forgeries and bullshit. The only people interested are ones who want to run with the 20 Bitcoin, in my opinion, regardless of what "standing" or "trustworthiness" they have on these forums.

Like Hilarious said, the only way to realistically do this would be multi sigs. Even then the chance for collusion between 2 people to steal the funds is incredibly high. Especially if they themselves produced convincing fake documents to make it appear that they were tricked into signing the funds over to a wrong person. What a clown fiesta.
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Considering the high amount, and the long duration of the escrow, you may want to consider a 2-out-of-3 multisig: OP holds 1 key, and 2 escrows each hold one too. That way, 2 out of 3 parties can always make a transaction.

That's a good idea.  Two trusted escrow sources who don't normally work with each other. 

Also, I don't know why you would offer more for the escrow service if the bounty succeeds as opposed to not.  Lets be honest there are plenty of places on this planet that the perp's IP could be traced to that could result in a dead end.  If you're serious about attracting a bounty hunter, then you have to be serious about attracting an escrow, and therefor you must be willing to pay, whether the perp is found or not.

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Please provide as much information as possible about the phisher owner, if any is known, this will assist bounty hunters in finding him sooner.

Additionally, for such a large amount of funds, I would recommend using one of the crypto escrow team: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190

Particularly MinerJones, as he is likely to most credible for this scale of funds.


Yes, i think MJ is the most credible for this deal unless OP has any problem with it.


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Edit: If somebody can tell me the domain registrar, odds are good I can pull his registration dox.

I tried to look up the info about the owner of this domain but failed to fetch any data from most of the whois sources.

Also, Looking at the situation there's no saying that the phisher used his real info while registering for the domain.
legendary
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I can hold the coins for you op

I will build a 16.1 bitcoin qt   make a clone of the drive and put it in a safedeposit box.

I will use a 2012 mac mini as I have 2 of them

I let me know if you want me to do it for you.

I have a secondary account


judypug1956



I ask for these changes  in your terms

I get 1 btc  if  the phisher is caught

I get .33 btc if the phisher is not caught.


Nevermind  decided to not offer my services to you
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Please provide as much information as possible about the phisher owner, if any is known, this will assist bounty hunters in finding him sooner.

Additionally, for such a large amount of funds, I would recommend using one of the crypto escrow team: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190

Particularly MinerJones, as he is likely the most credible for this scale of funds.

Edit: If somebody can tell me the domain registrar, odds are good I can pull his registration dox.
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I think you're nuts Tongue
Oh  Grin

So you're not interested in running the bounty but are interested in holding the $100k?
I do not actually understand what will be the job for the bounty manager here so thought to avoid it. Holding the amount was easy part so I picked that. Other than that I had nothing in mind.  

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You don't even meet the criteria in the op so I'm not sure why you're applying. I'm sure lots of people would put their 'entire' career here on the line for 100k+.
True but I thought the OP would make the call since this is not a listing where I am offering escrow service.

By the way thanks hilariousandco for your input. I better withdraw my interest. I really don't want any trouble for me.



[update]
Application withdrawn
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Considering the high amount, and the long duration of the escrow, you may want to consider a 2-out-of-3 multisig: OP holds 1 key, and 2 escrows each hold one too. That way, 2 out of 3 parties can always make a transaction.

This. There's very few people here who should be trusted to hold onto such an amount and these kind of figures can make even good men turn bad. Maybe contact theymos and see if he would be interested in being one of the people.
I agree with that you said Theymos should be among the escrow cause he is one of the respected person on this forum and it only trusted legendary member can hold such amount. However, it will also be better if the btc is split as LoyceV said.
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manage the corresponding bounty.
I hope you are not asking the escrower to manage your bounty. If the answer is - no, you are not asking then the rest of the of the contents of this post are valid or you can ignore the rest.

So you're not interested in running the bounty but are interested in holding the $100k+?

I am really not sure how the community will react on this thread since I am not near to a legendary or above, not very long with this community and never worked as an escrow before however I will give it a try and I will hope that community will see it as a fair interest since I am attaching my entire career and reputation with it.

The same way they react when any other Marlon Rando offers escrow services with little to no trading history here. You don't even meet the criteria in the op so I'm not sure why you're applying. I'm sure lots of people would put their 'entire' career here on the line for 100k+.

Considering the high amount, and the long duration of the escrow, you may want to consider a 2-out-of-3 multisig: OP holds 1 key, and 2 escrows each hold one too. That way, 2 out of 3 parties can always make a transaction.

This. There's very few people here who should be trusted to hold onto such an amount and these kind of figures can make even good men turn bad. Maybe contact theymos and see if he would be interested in being one of the people.
legendary
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I am really not sure how the community will react on this thread since I am not near to a legendary or above, not very long with this community and never worked as an escrow before
I think you're nuts Tongue

Considering the high amount, and the long duration of the escrow, you may want to consider a 2-out-of-3 multisig: OP holds 1 key, and 2 escrows each hold one too. That way, 2 out of 3 parties can always make a transaction.
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manage the corresponding bounty.
I hope you are not asking the escrower to manage your bounty. If the answer is - no, you are not asking then the rest of the of the contents of this post are valid or you can ignore the rest.


I am really not sure how the community will react on this thread since I am not near to a legendary or above, not very long with this community and never worked as an escrow before however I will give it a try and I will hope that community will see it as a fair interest since I am attaching my entire career and reputation with it.

So, here I am showing interest to act as an escrow for your bounty. The reason I want you to feel comfortable with me is - on the forum my identity is fairly open. I am not much anonymous. My Facebook, LinkedIn, business website everything has been bought publicly. There was a manipulated biased investigation (backup screenshots #1, #2 and #3 ) against me by a member because I made him upset for merit abusing. So, he started to troll me everywhere and ended up doing all sorts of investigations just to humiliate me in the community. In the process he basically pulled almost everything about me on his investigation topic. So my identity is fairly open. Anything unpleasant from me will ruin my career and the reputation I have earned in the community which I won't let it happen.

Let me know what do you think? It does not matter if this is a successful application (sort of) or not - either way I am fine. This is a huge experiment from me even to post this thread in here.


Proof of ownership of the account:

Original quoted and non-quoted singed message for bitcoin address.


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Update:
Archived for reference after posting the thread.
update 2:
Archived for reference after adding the security information.



Update:
I withdraw my interest.
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