Topic: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet - page 206. (Read 966173 times)

A small update, once a week! expenditure of time: ~5min

yes, I agree that is bad practice.

I'm quite sure it wasn't intentional, though.

NO ! Freaking NO !

They will not come off this hook easily with anybody saying : "It needs to be perfectly secure , let them make it as good as possible , they don't have to give us details to every step."

This is not the issue and everybody should know this.

The fact that they are absolutely not communicating at all is simply astonishing and should everybody give a severe run around in their head.

These guys want to make a perfectly secure bitcoin hardware wallet. As it is at the moment they have to be very open about firmware, hardware , wallet software, so we the users have a reason to trust them and can feel safe.

But at the moment they are hiding facts from us, facts that are easy to communicate and probably most of us would understand.

Something Like "Sorry, manufacturing of the plastic cases is still iffy and will take some time."

But they are not doing it, they keep it secret and/or oversee this little detail.

This IS Important. I cannot trust them if they are operating like this. I simply cannot fathom it.

What if they find a "little" weakness in the trezor, that is small and probably not that exploitable but they possibly have to recall them. And they don't because it would cost money and time. And then somebody finds a way and BTC get lost ...

They are not open about anything with us and do not care about keeping us updated.

Most people say this is nitpicking and it probably is but this IS an Issue.

Sorry guys , you blew it , i cannot trust this device.

I agree that they could communicate a little more, but I udnerstand that they want it to be perfect before releasing...

But you agree that it is bad practice to annouce a certain deadline (ETA~) and then without much info, prolonging that deadline for months? I think that is the issue here mostly.

Jesus, gweedo. Come down.

The device is real and awesome (I have one of the developer units). If slush and stick don't post here, there's probably nothing important to say and they and the other people helping them are probably putting their energy into solving the remaining issues, which I prefer.

Have some confidence and patience... The device will not become less useful over time.

Or possibly they are working and the minutae of what they did yesterday is irrelevant to this forum?

BTW gweedo has been on my ignore list for a long time now, because he simply trolls and makes things up.

there is always NO reaction to this type of questions here. unfortunately the guys from trezor think its better to NOT provide any updates even if they were online 5 minutes ago. this is so bad. cant believe i gave them money

Any updates at all?

virtcoin.com IS obviously a scam.
Please wait for our official eshop to be launched.

Good point, totally missed that.

If he is legit,  he would also need to create new cases, because the plastic Trezor first edition will be black...

(so he is obviously a scammer)

They stated in this topic that there are no resellers at the moment. Let me find that post for you Can't find it at the moment and to lazy to continue.

Also, he sells them for 0.5BTC or 0.75BTC. That either means he bought them in the beginning when 1BTC was extremly cheap, he bought plastic ones during the two-for-one action or he is a big fat scammer with a good looking website. I'm going for the last option.

There is a thread of some guy claiming to be shipping on the 4/21 as reseller

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6228410

his name is Stevenrm87 and he has been frequenting the trollbox chat on btc-e advertising his site as delivering trezor devices on the 4/21.

could the devs please confirm if there are any resellers out there which could possibly meet this date, especially the one mentioned in the thread linked above?

I am leaning hard towards this being a scam attempt... but asking here just for the off-chance it might be legit.

If these things are a half as good as they would appear/promise to be I could see them selling like hotcakes. I'm very interested personally - especially the possibility of the merging with Dark Wallet.

If the price was right I could see me buying several - for friends and family, thereby helping spread the BTC message.

So what timescale are we talking here - and what price level, given lets say 500$/BTC  ??

It is my understanding that the plastic Trezors aren't 3D printed (not sturdy enough), but injection molded. Manufacturing a die for moulding definitely could take months, especially if the geometry of the design is difficult to mould properly. I remember from my earlier discussion here about the eyelet that one of the original designs was atrociously bad as far as reliable manufacturability.

why are the devs so quiet?? an update every second week would be fine. but we get nothing. maybe there is nothing new to report because nobody is working on it. looks like a hobby project with "lets get some work done next saturday...oh wait no... lets drink some beer"

some weeks ago i read about the product is ready but the plastic case wasnt manufactured in the right way. i think that was a lie. it cant be that plastic cases need months to produce...

So then he got his early, I do have my own sources that could be wrong that told me this information. Still unacceptable in my eyes, can you at least give a target date for shipping?

He did not get his for free. I don't understand where did you get this information :-/

yeah I am even getting a little upset now, in the beginning I would have explain to you how you invested in a hardware startup and it isn't easy. Well now I am out 3 BTC and this device still hasn't come they missed many deadlines and now we don't even have a deadline. I wish I could get my bitcoins back but that isn't an option, as they were used to build this device.

I wish stick and slush would give at least a target date to get these shipped. Mike Hearn got his already for free... Kinda disappointed when I saw that. People that paid are still waiting and he got his already for free? But you going to do nothing just have sit here and take it. Worst investment I ever made.