Maged: Please include a sunset clause on any action EskimoBob should take. He has told me in IRC he will not refund any money. A sunset clause would put the final nail in the coffin of a scammer tag for EskimoBob. Thank you.
Absolutely. As of this moment, however, the suggested actions are still just a recommendation until I've fully evaluated this.
Thank you and I accept. Here is my response;
1. If EskimoBob returns the 5.3 BTC I will give him the 10 shares.
Thanks! Agreeing to these recommendations is a start to getting this issue resolved.
2. If EskimoBob refunds the difference (about 1 BTC at today's price) I will accept it.
Going through the historic data, 1.1 BTC looks to be the correct amount.
3. I am willing to give you a signed statement from Nefario (if I can get one) on the holdings of BMF. BMF is not in default.
What would Nefario know that isn't already public?
4. Please see this motion which authorizes me to invest up to 10% of BMF in non-mining assets. This motion was passed 3235 to 5 and is valid until Jan 1st, 2013.
Thanks. I do admit that it is a little hidden, however. I'd like to see some more opinions from people on what that might mean for this case.
5. I am willing to run a shareholder motion on whether or not my shareholders in BMF are satisfied. People like EskimoBob have no right to make up facts and figures. They're not shareholders.
No, that's fine.
The entire point of this thread, Maged, is that people like Eskimobob are complete and total jerkoffs who are truly ruining it for people who are trying to operate an honest business.
In many ways I agree. However, they do serve a purpose in keeping the community on their toes.
It is my position that the fact you are stating that he can return the approximately one BTC difference implies that the silence part did in fact have a value attached. I do not think it is fair to say that no value was stated, and then to assign a value solely for the purposes of refunding the money. But if that is your judgement I will accept it. Thank you.
Keep in mind what my options on this decision were:
1) Consider the silence to be worth 1.1 BTC, the difference between the market value at the time and your offer.
2) Since the silence was never given a value, it has zero value and you just overpaid him for the shares.
I really didn't feel that option 2 was fair, so option 1 is a good compromise.
I like to ask forum moderator to rename the this form thread to: "Usagi is a scammer, witness reports inside", close the thread and tag Usagi as a scammer.
I never planned to tag you Usagi, even after all this bull shit. Now, you left me no choice.
Are you happy now?
Sorry, but the scammer investigation on usagi started with my previous message since it is needed in order to decide on your case. Your message here means absolutely nothing.
However, if you are looking for a better reason, I would suggest you look at this post:
The NAV of BMF is approximately 0.50. We will be placing aggressive bids at .45 to .50.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-112734Those are demonstrably lies. First of all, the highest bid is currently 0.4104.
interesting. usagi, what's your response to this?
Nobody cares about scammer tags. Give this bob a scammer tag if it makes you feel better. There is nothing going on in this forum right now besides "scammer tag scammer tag theymos maged im angry" and it's getting really, really freaking old.
I'm well aware of this fact. That's why we do everything we can to resolve issues peacefully. In fact, I don't even really investigate cases that either don't involve high-profile people or aren't likely to see a resolution anymore.
Maged: why are you trying to resolve a situation that happened on IRC?
Because it involves people who use this forum. If someone from IRC is already mediating this dispute, let me know.
usagi | ;;rate EskimoBob -4 broke a contract, refused to honor forum mod judgement
usagi, no judgement has yet been made. However, I feel like I'm getting close to a decision.
