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newbie
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Time for round 2.

We are experiencing attacks from a known ddos group called dd4bc they attacked nitrogen sports a bitcoin sports betting site in the past.  http://www.bitcoingg.com/nitrogen-sports-remains-resilient-amid-attacks-due-to-blackmails-extortions/ 

As nitrogen sports has gotten past their attacks we shall as well.

Take this message as a warning the site may go down several times for the next few days while defenses are put in place to mitigate all of their attacks. All personal information is safe and secured they haven't made any attempts to hack us. Just shut down our servers.

However if a hack is attempted successfully we will send out emails to members to make them aware of what data, if any, of theirs may have been taken. Most personal data like passwords is hashed and salted so this shouldn't become a major issue even if a hack is successfully performed.
newbie
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Site is back, upgraded, and better then ever along with some new added defenses.
Also, some basic ddos hack group demanding payment from us to stop their attack has been mitigated. Nice try. (not really though)
full member
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Website is down... Did they pull the plug already?

can't help but to ask, if it was a concern or excitement for you lol
newbie
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Website is down... Did they pull the plug already?

Performing server upgrades. We aren't out yet.
full member
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Website is down... Did they pull the plug already?
legendary
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he cant sue anything ... lol .. this is a forum where u are free to say your opinion ... plus .. he is promoting a scam ...so ...
legendary
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He can sue me for wearing two different socks, but he would have the same chance of getting a judgement in his favor.

Besides, if he can afford to retain a lawyer without abusing customer funds, Im fairly sure that lawyer will soon have far more important things to do.
newbie
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we aren't dumb

Dan, you're dumber than a second coat of paint. Fortunately your obvious ignorance and stupidity seems to prevent people falling for your scam, so thats something you should be grateful for.

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Look forward to seeing your report on us and filing a lawsuit for you in return

You're going to file a lawsuit because I contacted a consumer protection agency? Good luck with that Smiley

I'm not 100% certain, but I do believe he can sue for libel and ruining his image.

But y'all need to calm the frack down!
legendary
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we aren't dumb

Dan, you're dumber than a second coat of paint. Fortunately your obvious ignorance and stupidity seems to prevent people falling for your scam, so thats something you should be grateful for.

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Look forward to seeing your report on us and filing a lawsuit for you in return

You're going to file a lawsuit because I contacted a consumer protection agency? Good luck with that Smiley
newbie
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Hard to believe the operators would be so stupid to think they could get away with this without false IDs, VPNs and whoisguards, so Im assuming identity theft. But since Ive not heard any denial from Julia, the alleged mother, I went ahead and also filed a complaint with the New Jersey buro of securities (http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/bos/compform.htm). They seem to like tackling these kinds of scams, Daniel, you may want  to register for this event:
http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/bos/BOS-Conference-Flyer-2014.pdf

You might learn a thing or two from real pro's Smiley

You must be slow, I have given you a federally granted License of my identity, and am very easy to find on social media tracing back around half a decade of my life which includes Esoteric Investments and an active social life from my friends (including the standard random facebook friends) "Hard to believe we don't use false IDs VPNs or whoisguard" Why could this be? Could it be, I don't know, we are actually running something real. If you ever bothered to chat with either of us you'd know we aren't dumb and in full knowledge of all of these and then some, but have no reason to use any of them as we aren't being shady at all.

So puppet stfu I'm done responding to you in particular because everything you say is dumb BS! Look forward to seeing your report on us and filing a lawsuit for you in return, typical true investment firm style. Wink

newbie
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ah, u're showing us that this SCAM pays lower than 1%, so they can be longer alive to SCAM other people, i cant even say nice try ... its a bad one ...
Notice how Digi said upwards of 1%/day? If you look at the results you can see that there have been returns over that, but most have been under or around it.

Also thanks to Phantom for keeping you guys posted on info.

You guys were watning transaprency, so then would the # of investors and the amt of BTC investde help you guys? I'm sure Phantom or I can get that for you no problem, Deej is just asleep for the time-being. Anything else you guys would like to know? I'm all for helping you guys get the information you need.


Are you dumb, you don't see anyway that it is possible to make over .1% on average daily.

I know for certain that it's possible with a limited amount of funds, but it doesn't scale to very high sums. With a higher sum of invested money the profits measured in percent will fall. That means it would be stupid for anyone who figures out how to give away the profits to random strangers.

Or what'd be amazing is if we are at that point fully accredited, then we'll just use that coin and turn it into USD investments like stocks and commodities. Though again this will probably come with a change to our operations. Adding USD in addition to BTC adds a lot of complexity, or was I the only one puzzled by how BT did it. At that point the sky is the limit for the fund. We don't want to be only in Bitcoin forever. The term esoteric investments in the financial world spans much farther then digital currencies.

In the next year Esoteric Investments is going to change A LOT both the face and the inner workings of it. I'm excited for it!  Grin

Sit back and enjoy the show, hopefully we can earn you some money along the way.
I'm with ya man. Esoterics gonna go a long way!
legendary
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Actually I found that with higher sums I can make some profit (usually >1%) from volume trading some established altcoins on multiple exchanges, in addition it makes possible to diversify my "investments" and make some short-medium term buys on high volume new(ish) coins what just hit the bottom after the initial dump (and supposed to bounce back).

I find that claims about profits from ponzi pushers are not very trustworthy.

I don't really care if you trust my opinion or not. I've made a two weeks "contract" with Niothor and I'm doing my part as I promised to do. If he does his part too as he promised then we are square. If not, then he's a scammer and I'll remove my signature and will join the topic about him on the scam accusations board. Easy enough. Isn't it?

I'm talking about trading. You are talking about your beliefs Smiley.
legendary
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I find that claims about profits from ponzi pushers are not very trustworthy.

Especially someone pushing a ponzi that has already collapsed and ran off with the money ROFL.
Next up: "my BTCST profits are now 8544932%, so it is possible!"
legendary
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Actually I found that with higher sums I can make some profit (usually >1%) from volume trading some established altcoins on multiple exchanges, in addition it makes possible to diversify my "investments" and make some short-medium term buys on high volume new(ish) coins what just hit the bottom after the initial dump (and supposed to bounce back).

I find that claims about profits from ponzi pushers are not very trustworthy.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
Are you dumb, you don't see anyway that it is possible to make over .1% on average daily.

I know for certain that it's possible with a limited amount of funds, but it doesn't scale to very high sums. With a higher sum of invested money the profits measured in percent will fall. That means it would be stupid for anyone who figures out how to give away the profits to random strangers.

Actually I found that with higher sums I can make some profit (usually >1%) from volume trading some established altcoins on multiple exchanges, in addition it makes possible to diversify my "investments" and make some short-medium term buys on high volume new(ish) coins what just hit the bottom after the initial dump (and supposed to bounce back).
However I agree this can be difficult to manage for one person especially with highly diversified funds across lots of exchanges.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
Hard to believe the operators would be so stupid to think they could get away with this without false IDs, VPNs and whoisguards, so Im assuming identity theft. But since Ive not heard any denial from Julia, the alleged mother, I went ahead and also filed a complaint with the New Jersey buro of securities (http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/bos/compform.htm). They seem to like tackling these kinds of scams, Daniel, you may want  to register for this event:
http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/bos/BOS-Conference-Flyer-2014.pdf

You might learn a thing or two from real pro's Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1003
ah, u're showing us that this SCAM pays lower than 1%, so they can be longer alive to SCAM other people, i cant even say nice try ... its a bad one ...
full member
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newbie
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This is pure semantics, you are supposedly in the business of asset growth using a trading mechanism involving bitcoin and alts to generate profit. How that profit is denominated is irrelevant.
What is relevant to anyone who wants to take your advice "Sit back and enjoy the show, hopefully we can earn you some money along the way" is:
A) You are actually trading, which is why transparency is important, otherwise the ponzi accusations will not stop.
B) If you are likely to be shut down by a regulatory body, which is why your vagueness on that subject is concerning.
C) That your trading system is sustainable and not just a 'flash in the pan'. Hints of "we'll do anything to make money" diversification don't inspire confidence.



For C
This is our current primary trading strategy where we monitor for several traits that signal a large rise or price correction that may be in the near future. This is the cummulation of news research, IRC chats, and market and network monitoring for things like hashrate and rise and fall of volume and price. This should suffice until crypto currencies lose their high volatility they are known for. (not happening anytime too soon) https://www.esotericinvestments.com/why_doge_was_a_good_investment_in_august_2014.php

For A and B
These are soon to be our main focuses. Admittedly B (legal matters) are a higher priority and would partially address A (transparency) as a result. In the coming weeks these two topics will be developed and built out.

legendary
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guys, stop reading his BS .. its a SCAM .. as simple as that, if someone is stupid enough to send money to this dude, than he deserve to get scammed ...
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