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Quote from: abel1337 on November 18, 2022, 06:40:21 AM

Sadly Kuku will be potentially on Bleed esports with his former team mates, Topson, xepher and Whitemon. The only team member that is removed to their their former t1 team is Ana which is replaced by March. I believe kuku is given a second chance playing with this former team mates. And I think he will do better this time since he was the one who was the one mostly blamed for their loss at their qualifiers. Though it is not the final roster, There couild be a chance that Kuku be acquired by Blacklist.

I nearly thought this was the actual roster lol, I'm thinking their mid player won't be Topson as he's likely going to head over to Team Liquid since Micke was showing a transition to the position 1 recently and their coach Blitz even gave a hint through Cap's recent podcast.

Quote from: dothebeats on November 17, 2022, 06:16:28 PM

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.

It looks like it as I also saw this leak mentioned on Reddit and this was their potential roster on Blacklist.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 18, 2022, 04:33:17 PM

Astralis are really hard to understand now. As they are quite inconsistent it is really difficult to predict when they can win. After that terrifying loss against 500 they are showing a solid performance against ENCE at the moment. First of all they both lost on the maps they picked. Now we are on Overpass, the decider. ENCE don't have any win on this map but Astralis are not very good also with a 25% win rate normally.

But Astralis are putting a good show right now. They have finished the first half 12-3 ahead already. There is nobody who has got even 10+ frags at ENCE side now. blameF is playing extra as well with 23 frags already. He was impressive on Mirage too with 25 frags. Xyp9x was amazing on Ancient with 33 frags which helped the team stay in the series to go for the decider. I don't expect a comeback from ENCE to be honest but Astralis are still not completely credible for me truthfully. Grin

Xyp9x and BlameF really did extra for Astralis in this match. I spoke a little early after watching the Mirage map. I didn't think ENCE would have any difficulties in Ancient. Astralis once again showed how strong they really are mentally, it would have been difficult for any other team to make a comeback. As far as I know, the Astralis club is working with a professional team to provide mental support to its players. It's really hard to understand, I can't understand if the 500 team were defeated 16-1 in Ancient. They matched Fnatic today in the semi-finals. Fnatic will be a tough team competitive match. Fnatic has a three-game winning streak. They have a strong squad. I feel like Fnatic will win, but I won't make a bet on this, just ignore what I said Cheesy

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 19, 2022, 09:09:23 AM

... or they can always go back as 5 with N0tail, Ceb, and Jerax (Taiga hinted that the members of the old OG squad might return to active pro scene come 22-23 DPC season). N0tail is the only one I'm quite unsure of whether he wants to go back and compete again. The dude's chillin' and enjoyig creating vlogs and all that stuff.

Ceb also mentioned that NoTail may need the longest time away from competitive DOTA since he was doing this the longest. So, we may still not see NoTail this DPC season. But if they do decide to team up again, are they going to be the first team or the second? The current roster is performing rather really well. They won a major and a few tournaments. It would be a waste to disband them or relegate them to the second team. Topson is still top tier as we saw last TI. Ana is still good and we also saw Ceb play in stockholm. It will be a hard decision for OG management if they all decide to come back.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 19, 2022, 05:39:33 AM

Make it 4 supports. Cheesy

I think Kuku should transition himself into support, he seemed behind and out-farmed in the battle of offlaners.

Kuku should not be in the captain position. His drafts are weak, his offlane heroes are very predictable, and he hogs farm just like Ammar but at least the latter knows how to utilize the farm he gets from the map.

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 19, 2022, 05:39:33 AM

We will see if Topson accepts any offers and stays at the SEA. The same with Ana, these 2 guys are decorated veterans and they will have a lot of offers coming to them to choose from. North America is another option after EG hinted to transfer to South America. Soniqs released all its players earlier too, this left TSM as the only top reliable team in the region.

EG would most probably prefer SA talents. That region is ripe for the picking with a lot of new talented players coming out of the bud. For starters, the last TI run, we had 2 SA teams who showed us good Dota and improved mechanics on the game, with Thunder Awaken reaching as far as lower bracket round 5 before they were outed by Liquid. Fly also mentioned that their roster might stick to NA with other orgs, so Topson and Ana may need to go back to EU if they want a team to pick them, or they can always go back as 5 with N0tail, Ceb, and Jerax (Taiga hinted that the members of the old OG squad might return to active pro scene come 22-23 DPC season). N0tail is the only one I'm quite unsure of whether he wants to go back and compete again. The dude's chillin' and enjoyig creating vlogs and all that stuff.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 19, 2022, 05:39:33 AM

Make it 4 supports. Cheesy

I think Kuku should transition himself into support, he seemed behind and out-farmed in the battle of offlaners.

Well, he admitted that he was not a good captain for ANA and that he was a lackluster last TI. But I do not think that transitioning to support well be the right move for him. I think, being a support is actually harder than being an offlaner or pos 1.

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 19, 2022, 05:39:33 AM

We will see if Topson accepts any offers and stays at the SEA. The same with Ana, these 2 guys are decorated veterans and they will have a lot of offers coming to them to choose from. North America is another option after EG hinted to transfer to South America. Soniqs released all its players earlier too, this left TSM as the only top reliable team in the region.

I do not think that they would want to play in NA. In my opinion, NA is the weakest region as far as DOTA 2 is concerned. Though, it would be easier to enter TI if you are in that region since the competition is not that high. But I believe these players want to join teams that are highly competitive and are able to hold themselves against top teams in TI.

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 19, 2022, 05:39:33 AM

Things are getting interesting in DOTA 2. It seems like we will be seeing new teams soon.

I wonder how the new teams will fair this DPC season. They are freshly formed so I do not expect too much from them. Unless they got really good players, then I am not expecting too much from them. But I will still be watching them just in case they bring something interesting in DOTA2.

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 18, 2022, 04:09:19 PM

So Topson will remain in SEA team. I thought he will go back to EU to join a stronger team.

This team has 3 support users with March, Whitemon and Xepher. Are they going to get another offlaner or carry member? Or one of the support will transition into that role? I wonder if that will be hard to transition to carry role from support.

I feel bad for Ana not getting back to the team. His talent is not utilized as much as OG has utilized his talent. He needs good support that understands his game play. Hope he finds another team that could do that for him.

I will wait for the official announcement of their new team. They were part of T1 before and T1 has sold the rights to another organization and that means with the record of Valve/Dota 2, they're still under the team that has just changed its name due to the selling of their rights. Even if they've(T1) announced the release of their roster, it could be the system that still has the name of its players while changing the team name.
Anyway, if this is an official and lock roster soon, March is going to play offlane and Kuku is said to be playing the carry of it. Because he's the offlane of his former team MVP Phoenix on their 2015 roster. And do not worry about ana, he's like a premium in the dota 2 professional scene, many teams would like to get him for sure.

Make it 4 supports. Cheesy

I think Kuku should transition himself into support, he seemed behind and out-farmed in the battle of offlaners.

We will see if Topson accepts any offers and stays at the SEA. The same with Ana, these 2 guys are decorated veterans and they will have a lot of offers coming to them to choose from. North America is another option after EG hinted to transfer to South America. Soniqs released all its players earlier too, this left TSM as the only top reliable team in the region.

Things are getting interesting in DOTA 2. It seems like we will be seeing new teams soon.

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Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region Shocked

. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....

I’m surprised about this announcement not because T1 old roster forme a new team but because the role on this roster for pos 1 is unknown. Is it Kuku or March who will get the carry role. I’m surprised if March will be pos 1 since he is the coach and only play support while Kuku as pos 1 is already not good because he is already outdated and can’t even play properly as offlane of there team. I hope the new roster is not final because Topson will just waste his time for that team composition.

Kuku become shit player after he change role from position 1 to offlaner/coach. Maybe he is trying to find his comfortable role again since they are re-organizing there roster. Besides Kuku might be retiring in case this new team will be a flop. T1 lose most of there games because Kuku fail to do his role. I’m he knew already that he is a problem and not there pos1 since they already change those position yet they have same result.

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Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region Shocked

. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

Bleed Esports is hyping the community but I just hope that they won't choke when the big qualifiers has already come in.

Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

AFAIK, he's always been focused and the memes are made by the fans making fun of him due to choking with his lackluster performances.

Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

He's always like this, every after TI, he goes on a long vacation and comes back for his part time job. Tongue

Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....

Yes, Torontotokyo is already out of them. I saw someone said that the Team Spirit is practicing with one new player named, Larl.

Anyway, another news: former coach of Team Fnatic - Sunbhie is now part of Talon Esports.

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Astralis are really hard to understand now. As they are quite inconsistent it is really difficult to predict when they can win. After that terrifying loss against 500 they are showing a solid performance against ENCE at the moment. First of all they both lost on the maps they picked. Now we are on Overpass, the decider. ENCE don't have any win on this map but Astralis are not very good also with a 25% win rate normally.

But Astralis are putting a good show right now. They have finished the first half 12-3 ahead already. There is nobody who has got even 10+ frags at ENCE side now. blameF is playing extra as well with 23 frags already. He was impressive on Mirage too with 25 frags. Xyp9x was amazing on Ancient with 33 frags which helped the team stay in the series to go for the decider. I don't expect a comeback from ENCE to be honest but Astralis are still not completely credible for me truthfully. Grin

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 18, 2022, 04:09:19 PM

So Topson will remain in SEA team. I thought he will go back to EU to join a stronger team.

This team has 3 support users with March, Whitemon and Xepher. Are they going to get another offlaner or carry member? Or one of the support will transition into that role? I wonder if that will be hard to transition to carry role from support.

I feel bad for Ana not getting back to the team. His talent is not utilized as much as OG has utilized his talent. He needs good support that understands his game play. Hope he finds another team that could do that for him.

I will wait for the official announcement of their new team. They were part of T1 before and T1 has sold the rights to another organization and that means with the record of Valve/Dota 2, they're still under the team that has just changed its name due to the selling of their rights. Even if they've(T1) announced the release of their roster, it could be the system that still has the name of its players while changing the team name.
Anyway, if this is an official and lock roster soon, March is going to play offlane and Kuku is said to be playing the carry of it. Because he's the offlane of his former team MVP Phoenix on their 2015 roster. And do not worry about ana, he's like a premium in the dota 2 professional scene, many teams would like to get him for sure.

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Quote from: abel1337 on November 18, 2022, 06:40:21 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 17, 2022, 06:16:28 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on November 17, 2022, 04:50:28 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 17, 2022, 05:29:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.

Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.

I'm also hoping that Kuku will be in Blacklist after I heard that the Tryke (CEO) announced that they will be entering the Dota 2 pro scene. Sadly Kuku will be potentially on Bleed esports with his former team mates, Topson, xepher and Whitemon. The only team member that is removed to their their former t1 team is Ana which is replaced by March. I believe kuku is given a second chance playing with this former team mates. And I think he will do better this time since he was the one who was the one mostly blamed for their loss at their qualifiers. Though it is not the final roster, There couild be a chance that Kuku be acquired by Blacklist.

So Topson will remain in SEA team. I thought he will go back to EU to join a stronger team.

This team has 3 support users with March, Whitemon and Xepher. Are they going to get another offlaner or carry member? Or one of the support will transition into that role? I wonder if that will be hard to transition to carry role from support.

I feel bad for Ana not getting back to the team. His talent is not utilized as much as OG has utilized his talent. He needs good support that understands his game play. Hope he finds another team that could do that for him.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 17, 2022, 04:50:28 PM

Quote from: Distraction on November 17, 2022, 03:42:17 PM

Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.

At least they qualified for the playoffs though so it's still not that bad of a performance even though they'll most likely lose against ENCE tomorrow. Tongue

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 17, 2022, 05:29:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.

Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Players from the infrastructure are not bad at all. Astralis also invests in the long term, I think they are not in a hurry, they are just busy creating their own formation. Anyway, I'm watching the quarterfinals right now.

The music in this organization and the fact that the presenter was too excited afterwards seemed too repulsive to me. The presentation at the beginning of the Ence - Astralis match really pissed me off. Ence defends like Stone on the Mirage map, this is a defense they usually do on this map. The tactics that Astralis used were always failing. Mirage map ended 16-11, the first map went to ENCE.

Choosing Mirage against Ence really takes courage, I think Astralis chose the wrong map. Now we move on to the Ancient map of Ence's choice. This map goes to Ence and ends 2-0, I don't think it will be a surprise.

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Quote from: boltz on November 18, 2022, 07:28:40 AM

A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region Shocked

. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....

I’m surprised about this announcement not because T1 old roster forme a new team but because the role on this roster for pos 1 is unknown. Is it Kuku or March who will get the carry role. I’m surprised if March will be pos 1 since he is the coach and only play support while Kuku as pos 1 is already not good because he is already outdated and can’t even play properly as offlane of there team. I hope the new roster is not final because Topson will just waste his time for that team composition.

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A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region Shocked

. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 17, 2022, 06:16:28 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on November 17, 2022, 04:50:28 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 17, 2022, 05:29:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.

Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.

I'm also hoping that Kuku will be in Blacklist after I heard that the Tryke (CEO) announced that they will be entering the Dota 2 pro scene. Sadly Kuku will be potentially on Bleed esports with his former team mates, Topson, xepher and Whitemon. The only team member that is removed to their their former t1 team is Ana which is replaced by March. I believe kuku is given a second chance playing with this former team mates. And I think he will do better this time since he was the one who was the one mostly blamed for their loss at their qualifiers. Though it is not the final roster, There couild be a chance that Kuku be acquired by Blacklist.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 17, 2022, 04:50:28 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 17, 2022, 05:29:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.

Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 17, 2022, 03:42:17 PM

Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.

At least they qualified for the playoffs though so it's still not that bad of a performance even though they'll most likely lose against ENCE tomorrow. Tongue

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 17, 2022, 05:29:09 AM

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.

Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

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There is a new tournament named Elisa Masters Espoo going on these days. ~snip~

I was hopeful about Astralis this time. Because they have signed device after a long time. This returnal was really great news for Astralis and it must have been even enough for firing them up again. But clearly there is nothing changed now. They are still a mess. I saw that they lost to 500 by a score like 16-1. Can you imagine how terrible they are now? By the way device wasn't a part of this match though and Kristou played in his place temporarily. But it didn't even seem like they would have a big hope for the win even if they had device instead.

Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.

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Quote from: STT on November 16, 2022, 06:58:18 PM

The org has a focus on how to make money and to invest into buying and maintaining SA teams has to be much cheaper then NA. If they can play just as well or at least gain many positions in order to improve value then any org has to be tempted to take that opportunity. Ultimately they go where the best returns vs risk is and some places you can pay alot of money and the team falls apart because of egos, Esports is high risk imo because of that and many reasons.

This is so true about EG, they're one of the strongest teams in the region and they're spending a lot to maintain their roster but it's not doing well for the company.

The focus is really to make profit and not just from the sponsors and advertisers but mainly to the tournament prizes and EG fell short with that. Good thing to know that the ex-EG roster will still be playing together as captain Fly said on his stream on twitch, although there could be a change maybe one will be out. He said it around 11 minutes of the video. --> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1654327876?sr=a&t=620s or if you don't want to click that link which is directly to his verified twitch account, search his twitch account --> talflyaizik

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 16, 2022, 06:54:14 PM

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The rumor tend to be true about EG releasing their current roster and picking up the SA team. As for these pro players, they want to stay in the NA because the competition there isn't as tough as the EU and CIS region.

I guess all of the contracts of the 6 man of EG has expired and EG has seen that they need to change their way to see some new changes of their Dota 2 team.

Good choice though as these SA players have shown that they've got what it takes to put their performances in the next level. I'm sure that they'll improve a lot having this huge org on their back.

South American teams did quite well last season and in TI so maybe EG has thought that would be better if they hire SA players to be on their roster.

We will be missing Arteezy though in EG. He has been in EG for quite some time now. Hope he finds a good team to join next DPC season. There are lots of team changing their roster, so maybe one of them will pick up Arteezy

Yes, they really did well and that's why EG wants to invest into those talents because they're not that expensive at all unlike their last roster who's composed of experienced ones and quite expensive for sure.

As for our boy Artour, he'll surely find a new team as he's still one of the most desirable carries that they've got. If he's going to stay in NA, he should also have those teammates that has been experienced for them to reach the next TI.

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