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Quote from: dimonstration on April 26, 2022, 01:58:48 AM

I’m curious what happened to the prematch bet for the match of RNG and VG? Is this considered as bet win if players bet for RNG prematch and vice versa? This is the first time I see that team forced forfeit on a Majors qualifiers match. This is so bad for VG but I definitely like RNG to go on Majors since they can. Give a good fight on top tier team there.

About the BTS CIS region? Will the Russian team will be joining now on this tournament??

When a team suddenly forfeits a match, all bets are usually settled as void but i've experienced a bookie that graded the bet as a win even though the match wasn't played out. I think it was Betsy but I can't confirm for now since it's rare for teams to back down on a match.

Yes, with the CIS qualifier scheduled tomorrow two CIS teams will join the major. I don't know how it'll be handled but I hope they don't run into any issues.

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 26, 2022, 12:26:58 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on April 25, 2022, 07:21:17 PM

This feels so weird especially when it was a tiebreaker for the Major slot. There seems to be additional information about this on weibo but I totally have no clue what they were discussing in there lol but quick summary was that it has something to do with their post 3 player not being able to play and Vici werent allowed to use stand-in or some sort

Yup, it looks like that was the case, their offlaner couldn't play due to a back injury which is really unfortunate and even though they can find a stand-in replacement for him, the tournament organizer didn't allow them due to the stand-in limit per team.

There's also an announcement about the CIS region resuming their DPC tournament tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/DOTA2/status/1518785754322767872

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The EEU DPC region will be back with a set of online qualifiers hosted by BeyondTheSummit starting April 27th that will qualify teams to the Stockholm Major. More details coming soon from
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I’m curious what happened to the prematch bet for the match of RNG and VG? Is this considered as bet win if players bet for RNG prematch and vice versa? This is the first time I see that team forced forfeit on a Majors qualifiers match. This is so bad for VG but I definitely like RNG to go on Majors since they can. Give a good fight on top tier team there.

About the BTS CIS region? Will the Russian team will be joining now on this tournament??

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 25, 2022, 07:21:17 PM

This feels so weird especially when it was a tiebreaker for the Major slot. There seems to be additional information about this on weibo but I totally have no clue what they were discussing in there lol but quick summary was that it has something to do with their post 3 player not being able to play and Vici werent allowed to use stand-in or some sort

Yup, it looks like that was the case, their offlaner couldn't play due to a back injury which is really unfortunate and even though they can find a stand-in replacement for him, the tournament organizer didn't allow them due to the stand-in limit per team.

There's also an announcement about the CIS region resuming their DPC tournament tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/DOTA2/status/1518785754322767872

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The EEU DPC region will be back with a set of online qualifiers hosted by BeyondTheSummit starting April 27th that will qualify teams to the Stockholm Major. More details coming soon from
@BeyondTheSummit

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 25, 2022, 03:07:42 AM

RNG got lucky in the tiebreakers for the final spot in the majors, they're about to face Vici but they decided to forfeit, i'm curious what made them forfeit since they have a good chance at taking the spot from RNG since they've been struggling without GodKing these past few weeks.

https://twitter.com/PWRD_DOTA2/status/1518473095924781056

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VG has chosen to forfeit their tiebreaker match against RNG, originally scheduled for today. RNG gets the def-win and a 2-0.

This feels so weird especially when it was a tiebreaker for the Major slot. There seems to be additional information about this on weibo but I totally have no clue what they were discussing in there lol but quick summary was that it has something to do with their post 3 player not being able to play and Vici werent allowed to use stand-in or some sort

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BLAST Premier Spring Showdowns in Europe and North America are starting on Wednesday 27th. Semi Finals will then be on the weekend. There will be some really exciting games coming up, looking forward to it. Liquid vs paiN is probably the most one sided game this season, who is looking for a small profit could bet on Liquid here, this seems like sure a sure win for Liquid. The payout with below 1.1 seems almost a waste of the funds. In my opinion much better games are Astralis vs Movistar Riders, should be a good win for Astralis. And also NiP vs Bad News Eagles should be an easy win for NiP. They played already last week against each other and NiP won that one.

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RNG got lucky in the tiebreakers for the final spot in the majors, they're about to face Vici but they decided to forfeit, i'm curious what made them forfeit since they have a good chance at taking the spot from RNG since they've been struggling without GodKing these past few weeks.

https://twitter.com/PWRD_DOTA2/status/1518473095924781056

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VG has chosen to forfeit their tiebreaker match against RNG, originally scheduled for today. RNG gets the def-win and a 2-0.

Also, EG's league squad manage to complete the lower bracket run similar to G2 and qualify for MSI, they dropped one map in the lower bracket and then proceed to sweep every team they meet, it's impressive to see another team rise aside from C9 and Team Liquid.

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LPL finals about to start. RNG v TES. All i ask is a banger 🔥🔥 and also TES lifting the trophy Grin

Quote from: arallmuus on April 21, 2022, 12:33:58 PM

Yeah lesson learnt, its always safer to take over 2.5 for two evenly matched teams

and i did this today in a csgo game. Let's see if Astralis can put up a good fight

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 21, 2022, 04:04:14 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on April 20, 2022, 05:38:11 PM

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So that's why the tournament pages were taken down all of a sudden on liquipedia. Things looking pretty rough from Valve and the organizers for not clearing this up right away.

It seems that it has been cleared up, there was a scheduled match between OG vs GG for the tiebreaker but it was already cancelled and OG took the 1st spot while GG took the 2nd spot because of the head-to-head statistics. Pretty sure that this is going to be applied for the other region as well but we'll see how this goes as there is a match scheduled for BOOM vs Fnatic as well for the tiebreaker

Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 21, 2022, 11:48:37 AM

That sucks. If there's a pick i prolly never take or at least try to avoid as much as possible is under maps, i'm just bad at picking unders in any type of sports

Yeah lesson learnt, its always safer to take over 2.5 for two evenly matched teams

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DPC SEA, there are 4 teams remaining and they're all in a tiebreaker. A good clutch can be seen there until the next day, 23.

Boom and Fnatic are fighting for first place but they're secured for the major. They'll be fighting on the said date for the DPC points and the prize.

Whilst for the battle for 3rd and 4th, this is a hard deciding tiebreaker. It's going to be T1 and Polaris, I'm more a fan of T1 since I like the team but Polaris is an underrated team and can beat them.

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 20, 2022, 05:38:11 PM

Anyway, lost my parlay bet because of this

https://i.imgur.com/058K5pb.png

I was kinda hoping either team could close the game with 2-0 but oh well

That sucks. If there's a pick i prolly never take or at least try to avoid as much as possible is under maps, i'm just bad at picking unders in any type of sports

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 20, 2022, 11:23:11 AM

What a day! Top Esports beat V5 and will face RNG in the lpl Finals

I'm leaning early on RNG once again and for some reason whenever I watch these two teams clash with each other it's always TES with the disadvantage and RNG usually edges them out.

i'm going with TES moneyline. No analysis here, i'm a huge Top Esports and Knight fanboy, betting on your fav team it's a bad idea, but i've been in profit in LoL games thanks to TES, so... Cheesy

I'll also take the over 4.5, could be a close series, no?

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 20, 2022, 05:38:11 PM

Valve changed the rules midway so there will be few tiebreakers games to decide the top spot as well as the bottom spot while the original rules stated that there wont be any tiebreaker because head-to-head statistic will be used as tiebreaker. Some teams feels Valve is being irresponsible by changing it midway but hey no complaint from viewers POV as I get to watch alot more games Tongue

Valve should really get their rules and conditions straight before going into major tournaments and events because this will confuse a lot of organizations and teams that worked their asses off to get to where they are right now. It might be a lot of games to watch, but imagine teams getting drained because of how inconsistent Valve is with their ruling on things that decides whether a team will have a chance to play on big events or not.

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Quote from: arallmuus on April 20, 2022, 05:38:11 PM

Valve changed the rules midway so there will be few tiebreakers games to decide the top spot as well as the bottom spot while the original rules stated that there wont be any tiebreaker because head-to-head statistic will be used as tiebreaker. Some teams feels Valve is being irresponsible by changing it midway but hey no complaint from viewers POV as I get to watch alot more games Tongue

So that's why the tournament pages were taken down all of a sudden on liquipedia. Things looking pretty rough from Valve and the organizers for not clearing this up right away.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 20, 2022, 11:23:11 AM

What a day! Top Esports beat V5 and will face RNG in the lpl Finals

I'm leaning early on RNG once again and for some reason whenever I watch these two teams clash with each other it's always TES with the disadvantage and RNG usually edges them out.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on April 20, 2022, 11:23:11 AM

Decisive week!!

Speaking of decisive week, it seems that there is a bit of an issue with the all the DPC League.

Valve changed the rules midway so there will be few tiebreakers games to decide the top spot as well as the bottom spot while the original rules stated that there wont be any tiebreaker because head-to-head statistic will be used as tiebreaker. Some teams feels Valve is being irresponsible by changing it midway but hey no complaint from viewers POV as I get to watch alot more games Tongue

Anyway, lost my parlay bet because of this

I was kinda hoping either team could close the game with 2-0 but oh well

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What a day! Top Esports beat V5 and will face RNG in the lpl Finals

Virtus Pro qualified to the Major after a close series against sAw

And, Fnatic made a great comeback and beat T1 and qualified to ESL One Stockholm... And in a few hours, Quincy Crew v TSM will fight for one NA spot in the major. Decisive week!!

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Quote from: ralle14 on April 20, 2022, 04:30:30 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on April 19, 2022, 06:16:29 AM

Careful with this bet, this is still Chinese Dotes so the result can be reverse in an instant especially that E-home manage to get 1 game against Xtreme gaming which is good team. I will go on +1.5 on them I were gonna bet on this guys because Ehome is not same on the last 2 teams on CN division unless they are up against LGD or RNG. Team Aster is a choker team and there’s a high chance that E-home can get the first match.

I agree these CN matches are tough to predict, a few days back Aster manage to beat Xtreme in a convincing fashion and now they're struggling against EHOME.

Later today Aster will be facing RNG and Aster is in a decent position to take the series and one of the main reason why they're favorites is because RNG's carry player have missed the last two series and they're playing with a stand in (Flyby) and his main role is offlane which could put RNG at a big disadvantage.

Yeah it's such a disappointment to watch. Good thing I didn't bet anything yet. A good rule of thumb for Chinese dota perhaps is to not bet when they are against themselves, but against other countries, you can bet on them with confidence. Learned my lesson on this one. Previous match history between the two teams state that Aster is the better team, but those 3 games showed that Ehome, despite having relatively unknown players, can go toe to toe (and even dominate) legends in a series.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 19, 2022, 06:16:29 AM

Careful with this bet, this is still Chinese Dotes so the result can be reverse in an instant especially that E-home manage to get 1 game against Xtreme gaming which is good team. I will go on +1.5 on them I were gonna bet on this guys because Ehome is not same on the last 2 teams on CN division unless they are up against LGD or RNG. Team Aster is a choker team and there’s a high chance that E-home can get the first match.

I agree these CN matches are tough to predict, a few days back Aster manage to beat Xtreme in a convincing fashion and now they're struggling against EHOME.

Later today Aster will be facing RNG and Aster is in a decent position to take the series and one of the main reason why they're favorites is because RNG's carry player have missed the last two series and they're playing with a stand in (Flyby) and his main role is offlane which could put RNG at a big disadvantage.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 19, 2022, 06:16:29 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on April 19, 2022, 05:52:00 AM

Anyone on EHOME v Aster DPC? Not really betting anything but I feel like Aster -1.5 is a good value bet. EHOME as an org doesn't seem to be as much as powerful as they were before, and their previous games were shaky. Catching up to the meta perhaps, but this match against Aster, I don't think they'll get a map.

Planet and shiro are good pub players, but when it comes to tournaments, it's not a one-man effort to win, so it'll be very crucial for their teammates to contribute in order to win against the giants that is Aster.

Careful with this bet, this is still Chinese Dotes so the result can be reverse in an instant especially that E-home manage to get 1 game against Xtreme gaming which is good team. I will go on +1.5 on them I were gonna bet on this guys because Ehome is not same on the last 2 teams on CN division unless they are up against LGD or RNG. Team Aster is a choker team and there’s a high chance that E-home can get the first match.

Just an update on this match. E-Home indeed defeat Team Aster 2-1 as predicted. E-Home manage to reverse sweep Aster using SK and Pugna on both game 2 and 3. This is what I love on Chinese dotes especially on the middle tier team because they can turn around the odds once they completely get the tempo of the game. I hope that you didn’t bet on Aster on this match.

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Quote from: dimonstration on April 19, 2022, 01:47:51 AM

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we also have HUGE game in the DPC WEU tomorrow, Tundra v Brame. If Tundra win they'll go to Major, but if Brame win do they go to a tiebreaker or what? 🤔

Brame won't gain anything if they win. Correct me with the calculations if I'm wrong but their points aren't enough. But they'll maintain their team into the division I if they win.

This is quite hard for Team Secret, they're going to watch if Tundra will replace them as the 4th placer and qualified team to the major. That's a hard feeling for Puppey and the gang.

Yeah Brame is already out of the Majors even if they win there match against Tundra but they can help Team Secret to force a tie breaker against Tundra for the 4th place. Team Secret performance is not good on this DPC tournament so I still preferred Tundra over Secret to go in Majors so that they can give a good fight to other team. Team Secret choke a lot on there recent matches and they are still adjusting on there current roster. Tundra is much better to Secret for that spot.

Looking at the stats record now, Tundra advances and Team Secret falls to 5 while Tundra is 3 which is tied with Team Liquid but they're already qualified for the major.

Last remaining match is with both teams that are already in for the major. GG and Team Liquid so whoever wins, they're fighting for the 2nd & 3rd place and as well as the DPC points.

Regardless of that, all of them are secured to Stockholm major.

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Quote from: dothebeats on April 19, 2022, 05:52:00 AM

Anyone on EHOME v Aster DPC? Not really betting anything but I feel like Aster -1.5 is a good value bet. EHOME as an org doesn't seem to be as much as powerful as they were before, and their previous games were shaky. Catching up to the meta perhaps, but this match against Aster, I don't think they'll get a map.

Planet and shiro are good pub players, but when it comes to tournaments, it's not a one-man effort to win, so it'll be very crucial for their teammates to contribute in order to win against the giants that is Aster.

Careful with this bet, this is still Chinese Dotes so the result can be reverse in an instant especially that E-home manage to get 1 game against Xtreme gaming which is good team. I will go on +1.5 on them I were gonna bet on this guys because Ehome is not same on the last 2 teams on CN division unless they are up against LGD or RNG. Team Aster is a choker team and there’s a high chance that E-home can get the first match.

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Anyone on EHOME v Aster DPC? Not really betting anything but I feel like Aster -1.5 is a good value bet. EHOME as an org doesn't seem to be as much as powerful as they were before, and their previous games were shaky. Catching up to the meta perhaps, but this match against Aster, I don't think they'll get a map.

Planet and shiro are good pub players, but when it comes to tournaments, it's not a one-man effort to win, so it'll be very crucial for their teammates to contribute in order to win against the giants that is Aster.

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