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Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 28, 2021, 07:26:17 AM

as expected, Device and Rez with the carry against Heroic.

G2 - NIP will be another banger. Going with this as my main ticket today

i'll keep an eye out on the total rounds market. Their last match was one hell of a close series (16-12, 17-19, 16-14). It's very likely that we'll see the same maps today (d2, inf, mrg) so i see good value in the Over 25.5 and 26.5 rounds

I'm on that over pick as well since both of them seems to be on another level as they were able to take down Heroic in a 2-1 fashion.

Hopefully they take their map pick with ease and leaning on G2 to win the decider so they could book a rematch with mousesports. Cheesy

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as expected, Device and Rez with the carry against Heroic.

G2 - NIP will be another banger. Going with this as my main ticket today

i'll keep an eye out on the total rounds market. Their last match was one hell of a close series (16-12, 17-19, 16-14). It's very likely that we'll see the same maps today (d2, inf, mrg) so i see good value in the Over 25.5 and 26.5 rounds

i also have FURIA moneyline at 2. This could be a close series, ovp or vertigo could go to Liquid, but FURIA have been crazy good on Inferno lately and imo they have the edge on mrg or nuke, either map could be the decider

Quote from: ralle14 on May 27, 2021, 09:29:56 AM

Edit : rip G2, ropz and frozen popping off. .

Mouz haven't dropped a single map in Flashpoint so far Lips sealed

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Quote from: Kittygalore on May 26, 2021, 03:15:57 AM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 25, 2021, 10:16:01 AM

right now OG are out cos they don't have enough dpc points to reach the top 12 dpc ranking, but, as @batang_bitcoin said above, they'll participate in the TI western EU qualifiers. They need to win that to qualify automatically to TI

I don't think that they need the DPC points to qualify for The International since they are already the champion of the previous TI so they are automatically qualified, if they weren't qualified, they would have taken the DPC season seriously.

They don't, because there's a reset during the pandemic and that's why there were majors and minors that were the tournaments needed to gain DPC points.
The rules have changed and they're not automatically qualified, check this link for which teams have already qualified the points of other teams needed to at least get a secured slot in this upcoming TI.
Qualified: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2021
DPC points: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Dota_Pro_Circuit/2021/Rankings
On the DPC points list, OG is #34 which is far from the qualifying DPC points needed for a secured slot.

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Next goes:
Team Vitality vs DBL Poney should be a easy match for Vitality.
FURIA Esports vs Team Liquid im think Liquid will win this match.

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Mousesports seems like a value pick with their current form but i'm sticking with my gut and back G2 @1.7 on this series.

Everytime I want to against them they always come out on top no matter what so i'll take them until they slowly lose their form.

Edit : rip G2, ropz and frozen popping off. .

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Quote from: Trofo on May 26, 2021, 11:34:06 AM

I must admit that I am out of the loop with CS

well, just know that Heroic are the best team in circuit right now, they've lost like 2 matches in the last 20 or so, i don't remember the last time i saw Heroic with moneyline odds higher than 1.4 Lips sealed

and they're back to today against Device's team. NIP will probably pick Ovp, their best map, Heroic struggled quite a lot there against Astralis so NIP have a good chance of winning their map pick. Train could be a good pick too. If Heroic win Nuke as they usually do, then my Over maps at 2.1 is a winner. Rooting for NIP in this one, REZ and Device need to pop off or it's gonna be yet another quick 2-0 for the danes

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 26, 2021, 10:01:09 AM

am i delusional? no, i'm a believer Wink

lol

Saw the odds and had about the same reaction. Placed a small single on Astralis and big stake double where I have Astralis +1.5 @1.65. I must admit that I am out of the loop with CS but those odds seemed like such big value and I had few seconds to place the bet before match was starting so I just placed it without checking recent stats.

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am i delusional? no, i'm a believer Wink

lol

also have Over maps between Dignitas and Skade, hopefully they'll trade maps, currently 6-1 for skade on Dig's map pick...and later today, a hard-fought win for Furia , perhaps?

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 25, 2021, 10:16:01 AM

right now OG are out cos they don't have enough dpc points to reach the top 12 dpc ranking, but, as @batang_bitcoin said above, they'll participate in the TI western EU qualifiers. They need to win that to qualify automatically to TI

I don't think that they need the DPC points to qualify for The International since they are already the champion of the previous TI so they are automatically qualified, if they weren't qualified, they would have taken the DPC season seriously.

unfotunately for OG, winning TI back-to-back isn't enough to qualify to the next edition, the only way to qualify is with dpc points or winning the regional qualifiers.

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Next goes:
Astralis vs Heroic an classic old scool match butt Astralis play not so good like the old scool times.
Complexity Gaming vs Anonymo Esports im think Complexity will win.
Ninjas in Pyjamas vs BIG im hope BIG win but im dont think Ninjas are to good.
FunPlus Pheonix vs Sproud its the same like BIG.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 25, 2021, 10:16:01 AM

right now OG are out cos they don't have enough dpc points to reach the top 12 dpc ranking, but, as @batang_bitcoin said above, they'll participate in the TI western EU qualifiers. They need to win that to qualify automatically to TI

I don't think that they need the DPC points to qualify for The International since they are already the champion of the previous TI so they are automatically qualified, if they weren't qualified, they would have taken the DPC season seriously.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 25, 2021, 04:57:40 PM

That's it, based on the data. The team also acknowledged the difficulties on their Twitter page on May 24. Their only chance of getting into TI is through closed qualifiers. But looking at the current conditions, maybe they only have a small chance anyway.
https://twitter.com/OGesports/status/1396744545635868672

With the current standings it does look grim for OG but it can still change since Team Nigma and Team Liquid are at the majors. I know the chance for them to secure an invite is small (Liquid with 19% chance and Nigma with ~5%) but still possible. OG needs to cheer really hard and hope one of them goes on a deep run and reach top 3 once that happens the fight for the qualifiers becomes a bit easier for them.

https://twitter.com/Noxville/status/1396580740083724290

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Quote from: Jackl87 on May 25, 2021, 11:01:16 AM

As far as i know OG is not yet qualified for TI and they will probably not be able to directly qualify for it because only the top 12 teams of the dota pro circuit ranking will receive a direct invite and OG is currently only at position 34 of that list so they won't reach position 12 anymore. The remaining 6 places for TI are determined through the regional qualifiers. Only the best team of every region that is not yet qualified through the dota pro circuit ranking will go to TI. This means OG must be better than Team Liquid and Nigma for example which will be very hard as both teams are stronger than OG at the moment.

That's it, based on the data. The team also acknowledged the difficulties on their Twitter page on May 24. Their only chance of getting into TI is through closed qualifiers. But looking at the current conditions, maybe they only have a small chance anyway.
https://twitter.com/OGesports/status/1396744545635868672

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 25, 2021, 01:22:53 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on May 25, 2021, 01:14:01 AM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 24, 2021, 11:56:05 PM

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OG being the previous TI champions doesn't have any bearing with the current DPC season as they've changed the format for direct invites but they'll still get an invite to the TI EU qualifiers because they've participated in the upper division and same goes for the other teams that participated in the lower division.

So what is their status that OG is in? Are they in the TI or not because that would be a bit shitty for Valve to not invite OG in the International.

As far as i know OG is not yet qualified for TI and they will probably not be able to directly qualify for it because only the top 12 teams of the dota pro circuit ranking will receive a direct invite and OG is currently only at position 34 of that list so they won't reach position 12 anymore. The remaining 6 places for TI are determined through the regional qualifiers. Only the best team of every region that is not yet qualified through the dota pro circuit ranking will go to TI. This means OG must be better than Team Liquid and Nigma for example which will be very hard as both teams are stronger than OG at the moment.

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Flashpoint is back! haven't done a multi in a while so i'll place one today: Vitality +1.5 and BIG ml at 2.58 https://i.ibb.co/F5Vkn46/soez.png BIG better not choke against a damn PONEY!! EDIT* BOTality shit the bed, no worries, the under maps came to save the day https://i.ibb.co/JCWMKZN/under.png

@ralle14 Nice win. Generous odds for sAw tho, they've been crushing it lately

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 24, 2021, 11:56:05 PM

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OG being the previous TI champions doesn't have any bearing with the current DPC season as they've changed the format for direct invites but they'll still get an invite to the TI EU qualifiers because they've participated in the upper division and same goes for the other teams that participated in the lower division.

So what is their status that OG is in? Are they in the TI or not because that would be a bit shitty for Valve to not invite OG in the International.

right now OG are out cos they don't have enough dpc points to reach the top 12 dpc ranking, but, as @batang_bitcoin said above, they'll participate in the TI western EU qualifiers. They need to win that to qualify automatically to TI

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 24, 2021, 11:56:05 PM

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OG being the previous TI champions doesn't have any bearing with the current DPC season as they've changed the format for direct invites but they'll still get an invite to the TI EU qualifiers because they've participated in the upper division and same goes for the other teams that participated in the lower division.

So what is their status that OG is in? Are they in the TI or not because that would be a bit shitty for Valve to not invite OG in the International.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 24, 2021, 11:56:05 PM

I think the TI qualification works via DPC and each region needs to have top teams that will be able to participate, I think each region has different number of qualified participants. OG will make it even if they lose in the Majors because they are the last The International champion so they have a direct invite.

OG being the previous TI champions doesn't have any bearing with the current DPC season as they've changed the format for direct invites but they'll still get an invite to the TI EU qualifiers because they've participated in the upper division and same goes for the other teams that participated in the lower division.

Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 24, 2021, 05:20:13 PM

i managed to grab Dignitas moneyline earlier today https://i.ibb.co/yhWQRRG/dig.png

currently watching O Plano - Furia, i have Over maps here at 1.95.

Good hit on that Dignitas pick. That over on Furia was close but O Plano struggled to close out the map with a 15-10 lead.

Later today i'll go against Sinners and take [email protected] since they've had some close wins against good teams like BIG and forze.

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Quote from: Zilara12 on May 22, 2021, 04:30:09 PM

How does the math work out for TI qualification? Can OG make it?

I think the TI qualification works via DPC and each region needs to have top teams that will be able to participate, I think each region has different number of qualified participants. OG will make it even if they lose in the Majors because they are the last The International champion so they have a direct invite.

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Quote from: Zilara12 on May 22, 2021, 04:30:09 PM

How does the math work out for TI qualification? Can OG make it?

It will be hard for them, there's only two majors for this season and they didn't even make it with any of those. The huge point for DPC has already been taken away from them. The last major is the Animajor which had already secured its participating teams for playoffs, group stage and wild card seeds. There's no room for OG but there's still one more chance and that's why I've said it's hard for them. But I'll tell first that there were already 4 teams that are secured to play to the upcoming TI10 namely, EG, IG, VP and Team Secret. And for OG, they need to win the one slot of Western Europe qualifiers. But look at their opponents for that 1 very slot: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2020/Western_Europe

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 24, 2021, 04:05:24 AM

Moving on to some CSGO action i'll go for a small play on Spirit -1.5 vs K23 @1.55 <...>

nice odds consindering K23 are a tier 3 team

i managed to grab Dignitas moneyline earlier today https://i.ibb.co/yhWQRRG/dig.png last time i saw them i thought they were pretty good so i said "why not?" Roll Eyes

currently watching O Plano - Furia, i have Over maps here at 1.95. Last time they met it was a 2-0 for O plano, but right now it's looking good for Furia in their map pick

Quote from: STT on May 24, 2021, 04:12:57 PM

Plano do seem like a team who can ascend presuming they get on well to progress and practice etc.

O Plano are legit, this new roster has been showing some good CS lately, they could become the 2nd best BR team behind Furia, matter of time before they start playing in the big leagues

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