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tsoPANos

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In math we trust.

Quote from: armin22 on August 02, 2014, 04:56:07 PM

Quote from: tsoPANos on August 02, 2014, 04:49:55 PM

Heads Up!
Look at what I found!
Some people are mass buying.
The address https://blockchain.info/address/1LakAV4yfUQKQXjEsHc4ZvgCYcByNWiZVx
Mass-sends bitcoins to clean addresses and then these addresses point to
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
which is the Ether IPO address!

Example
https://blockchain.info/address/17zY66R4f2f8bWfYDFFTXVVDkqbeyBXENJ

Google the address points to some Jewish articles but I can't understand anything even with goole translate!
Like
http://kalkala-amitit.blogspot.gr/2014/02/blog-post_4233.html

jewish people are preparing for world domination.

In case you're sarcastic, you need to know that I just randomly picked a the tx.
It's not my fault if google points to Jewish related articles.
(I got 24 total results, most of which were block explorers, the others being jewish articles.)
In case you're not, I consider you a conspiracy theorist.

armin22

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Quote from: tsoPANos on August 02, 2014, 04:49:55 PM

Heads Up!
Look at what I found!
Some people are mass buying.
The address https://blockchain.info/address/1LakAV4yfUQKQXjEsHc4ZvgCYcByNWiZVx
Mass-sends bitcoins to clean addresses and then these addresses point to
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
which is the Ether IPO address!

Example
https://blockchain.info/address/17zY66R4f2f8bWfYDFFTXVVDkqbeyBXENJ

Google the address points to some Jewish articles but I can't understand anything even with goole translate!
Like
http://kalkala-amitit.blogspot.gr/2014/02/blog-post_4233.html

jewish people are preparing for world domination.

TaunSew

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Quote from: tsoPANos on August 02, 2014, 04:49:55 PM

Heads Up!
Look at what I found!
Some people are mass buying.
The address https://blockchain.info/address/1LakAV4yfUQKQXjEsHc4ZvgCYcByNWiZVx
Mass-sends bitcoins to clean addresses and then these addresses point to
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
which is the Ether IPO address!

Example
https://blockchain.info/address/17zY66R4f2f8bWfYDFFTXVVDkqbeyBXENJ

Google the address points to some Jewish articles but I can't understand anything even with goole translate!
Like
http://kalkala-amitit.blogspot.gr/2014/02/blog-post_4233.html

Good find. I'm waiting for someone undercover more of these. It will be icing on the cake if someone can pin a MtGox connection with Ethereum.

All these unlimited buy in IPOs are simply going to attract laundered and/or stolen money, that's the end of it. Maidsafe and Ethereum would never admit to receiving laundered funds as it would be too much bad press for them (nor would they want to return any money they get).

tsoPANos

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In math we trust.

Heads Up!
Look at what I found!
Some people are mass buying.
The address https://blockchain.info/address/1LakAV4yfUQKQXjEsHc4ZvgCYcByNWiZVx
Mass-sends bitcoins to clean addresses and then these addresses point to
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
which is the Ether IPO address!

Example
https://blockchain.info/address/17zY66R4f2f8bWfYDFFTXVVDkqbeyBXENJ

Google the address points to some Jewish articles but I can't understand anything even with goole translate!
Like
http://kalkala-amitit.blogspot.gr/2014/02/blog-post_4233.html

TaunSew

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Quote from: slaveforanunnak1 on August 02, 2014, 04:17:38 PM

Quote from: TaunSew on August 02, 2014, 02:29:09 PM

Due to anonymity you don't know who is investing those huge amounts. Could be internal investments by the Ethereum team to create fake volume. Could even be stolen or laundered money.

Look at Maidsafe - it was discovered that several of their millions was actually stolen funds from MtGox. I find it ironic that Karpeles claimed he had no access to that money but somebody was able to forward it into the Maidsafe IPO.

Considering the Ethereum forum is practically dead, Ethereum is barely mentioned on Bitcointalk and Ethereum only hangs out at conventions attended by hundreds - there's frankly no community there to back a several $million IPO (unless it's dumb rich people and/or stolen & laundered funds) and especially no community to sustain any growth after the IPO is finished.

yes! .. you are brilliant! Kinda like "Not Sure". you should be the next obama!!!
https://www.youtube.com/user/ethereumproject/videos

Almost every video there only has a few hundred views over a time span of months, with an exception of one view with 1000 views in 4 days. Wow the most important video for Ethereum and 1000 views in 4 days! Stop the presses and shoot off the fireworks!

Someone posting a video of a sleeping kitten can get a million views in 24 hours, it's been done on YouTube.

There's no community there to sustain a coin after launch. Ethereum is a ponzi scheme ran by a few wealthy investors who think throwing bags of money to a coin will attract subsequent bags of money from subsequent investors (one problem - it didn't work for Mastercoin or Maidsafe yet)

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Quote from: mr angry on August 02, 2014, 03:33:51 PM

Quote from: TaunSew on August 02, 2014, 02:29:09 PM

Look at Maidsafe - it was discovered that several of their millions was actually stolen funds from MtGox.

Can you post a link to this story please? I was wondering how anyone could launder stolen MtGox bitcoins without the whole world immediately finding out about it. Some of the big holders of the half a $billion on there must be watching the blockchain like hawks to find out what happened to their money,

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/breaking-mt-gox-maidsafe-gox-coins-flowing-maidsafe-ipo/2014/04/24

You assume that the media cared about MtGox that much. They only cared about FUDing bitcoin.

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Quote from: TaunSew on August 02, 2014, 02:29:09 PM

Due to anonymity you don't know who is investing those huge amounts. Could be internal investments by the Ethereum team to create fake volume. Could even be stolen or laundered money.

Look at Maidsafe - it was discovered that several of their millions was actually stolen funds from MtGox. I find it ironic that Karpeles claimed he had no access to that money but somebody was able to forward it into the Maidsafe IPO.

Considering the Ethereum forum is practically dead, Ethereum is barely mentioned on Bitcointalk and Ethereum only hangs out at conventions attended by hundreds - there's frankly no community there to back a several $million IPO (unless it's dumb rich people and/or stolen & laundered funds) and especially no community to sustain any growth after the IPO is finished.

yes! .. you are brilliant! Kinda like "Not Sure". you should be the next obama!!!
https://www.youtube.com/user/ethereumproject/videos

mr angry

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Quote from: TaunSew on August 02, 2014, 02:29:09 PM

Look at Maidsafe - it was discovered that several of their millions was actually stolen funds from MtGox.

Can you post a link to this story please? I was wondering how anyone could launder stolen MtGox bitcoins without the whole world immediately finding out about it. Some of the big holders of the half a $billion on there must be watching the blockchain like hawks to find out what happened to their money,

TaunSew

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Due to anonymity you don't know who is investing those huge amounts. Could be internal investments by the Ethereum team to create fake volume. Could even be stolen or laundered money.

Look at Maidsafe - it was discovered that several of their millions was actually stolen funds from MtGox. I find it ironic that Karpeles claimed he had no access to that money but somebody was able to forward it into the Maidsafe IPO.

Considering the Ethereum forum is practically dead, Ethereum is barely mentioned on Bitcointalk and Ethereum only hangs out at conventions attended by hundreds - there's frankly no community there to back a several $million IPO (unless it's dumb rich people and/or stolen & laundered funds) and especially no community to sustain any growth after the IPO is finished.

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Quote from: armin22 on August 02, 2014, 12:31:23 PM

This is perfect natural selection. If it fails, we get rid of the idiots in our community who arent wise with their money.

Unfortunately I think the ultimate loser is Cryptocurrency. This just further acts to centralise Bitcoin, and further reduce confidence in cryptocurrency.

The amount of BTC that has been lost, robbed, conned or just liquidated..I wonder how much is actually left in active circulation?

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This is perfect natural selection. If it fails, we get rid of the idiots in our community who arent wise with their money.

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Quote from: armin22 on August 02, 2014, 10:48:52 AM

In the terms and conditions they mentioned that if this whole thing fails, nobody gets refunds, they keep all the money.

There are people buying 100 bitcoin stakes. So if the whole thing fails they get no refund!

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Quote from: armin22 on August 02, 2014, 10:48:52 AM

In the terms and conditions they mentioned that if this whole thing fails, nobody gets refunds, they keep all the money.

There's a massive shocker. Like any IPO, you're making a blind bet. At least at the casino you know what the odds are. Only invest when you can make an informed decision. Take off the green-tinted spectacles and consider the possibility that this won't make you money. Weigh the options.

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In the terms and conditions they mentioned that if this whole thing fails, nobody gets refunds, they keep all the money.

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Too scared to invest on thhere

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https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2

Until now they have over 10000 BTC. Is somewhere any information about how they intend to spend these money?

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Quote from: GangkisKhan on July 29, 2014, 12:23:47 AM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on July 27, 2014, 07:52:07 PM

Ethereum was started when alts were all the rage. The entire notion that there should be a big persuit of alternative cryptos has crumbled.

A little too late on the trend.

Got to agree with you ,this explosion of alts has done very little to progress Cryptocurrencies,in fact mostly negative. In the end, if this whole new world of digital currency etc is to progress, it all hinges on the success of Bitcoin,If Bitcoin fails, it will set the whole idea back many years.
If Bitcoin is to gain a footing in the global economy, that will be the time for a select few alts to find their place but until that time expect scams and failure and of course to be a bag holder.
Ethereum has potential to go side by side with Bitcoin but Bitcoin needs to explode soon ,else within a year I expect it to go the same as all the other IPO's
initial hype and not really gaining momentum, It needs to get a market cap of ,say Litecoin, to stand a chance of breaking free or all the other crap.

Like it or not,Bitcoin is the golden goose

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on July 27, 2014, 07:52:07 PM

Ethereum was started when alts were all the rage. The entire notion that there should be a big persuit of alternative cryptos has crumbled.

A little too late on the trend.

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Quote from: oldmarsh on July 27, 2014, 06:43:36 AM

Because you know that if you ask a scammer if they are scamming they are going to be completely honest with you and reveal that indeed it is all one big scam.

Actually...they sometimes do. The most insidious kind of scam in the scamworld is where the scammer pulls you aside and says in private, "Now kid, there's going to be a lot of flim-flam with this deal but I'll make sure you're taken care of."

If you ever hear or read something like this, a big loud siren should go off in your head.

A minor variant is the one where the scammer pulls you aside and, in private, says: "Kid, I like you so I'll arrange a special side-treat on terms you'll absolutely love. Just remember to stick by me when the time is right."

In the con artist world, con-man genius consists of making the mark feel (and even act) like he's part of the scam. That maneuver shuts up a lot of would-be complainants, perhaps all of them.

Be cool...ye hast been warned.

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I have cited and will be referring to some of the comments on this thread in my show tomorrow on WCN. To see show prep notes head over to the /r/worldcryptnetwork page. I would be keen for any of your thoughts and insights.

Thank-you

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