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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 16, 2016, 10:11:33 PM

When Barry declared that he bought is first altcoin with ETC then it says a lot more of how he hates ETH than the love he has for ETC. It is an act of sending the Ethereum foundation a message that there are people in the Bitcoin community that are willing to support the original chain to express that they are against rolling back, tweaking, and changing transaction histories in blockchains. I believe Charles Hoskinson is also of the same mindset when he declared and committed to his full support of ETC even he says he is in it for academic purposes.

Litecoin's creator Charlie Lee was also against the hard fork. I think back in 2014 he said that LTC will never be hard forked. Chandler Guo is another serious ETC supporter. He first threatened ETC with a 51% attack, but looks like he recently is backing it up.

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I think it's interesting how mining was tacked on to the scammy ICO coin
and no one complained..

Fork it and all hell broke loose Cheesy

Interesting huh ?

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When Barry declared that he bought is first altcoin with ETC then it says a lot more of how he hates ETH than the love he has for ETC. It is an act of sending the Ethereum foundation a message that there are people in the Bitcoin community that are willing to support the original chain to express that they are against rolling back, tweaking, and changing transaction histories in blockchains. I believe Charles Hoskinson is also of the same mindset when he declared and committed to his full support of ETC even he says he is in it for academic purposes.

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Quote from: gfwdown on August 16, 2016, 06:16:14 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

Is Barry Silbert a whale?? I don't know much about twitter storms. I know the recent troll about "I never sell one ETC blablabla"

Barry Silbert ‏@barrysilbert Aug 7
1/ Setting the record straight:
1) I've sold 0 ETC
2) I've bought and am buying more
3) I do not intend to personally sell until ETC>ETH

Twitter has nothing to do if the Barry Silbert is a whale or not. He is a basically a Bitcoin whale, but he recently confessed that the first coin (after Bitcoin), which he bought was ETC.

Quote from: roselee on August 16, 2016, 09:45:41 AM

but why do your "rightminded persons" now need the assistance of a lawyer to give back the white hat hack coins?
and none of us keeping quwestioning there acts do need one ?

Duh, simple! Minecache is among the people who needs medical assistance and a lawyer would be helpless in his situation. He will rule out every which does not include "I love ETH".

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Quote from: Minecache on August 15, 2016, 11:27:32 PM

Quote from: EastSound on August 15, 2016, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

They quite rightly don't want to be associated with the ETC criminal coin. I support this moral stance like any rightminded person would.

but why do your "rightminded persons" now need the assistance of a lawyer to give back the white hat hack coins?
and none of us keeping quwestioning there acts do need one ?

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Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

Is Barry Silbert a whale?? I don't know much about twitter storms. I know the recent troll about "I never sell one ETC blablabla"

Barry Silbert ‏@barrysilbert Aug 7
1/ Setting the record straight:
1) I've sold 0 ETC
2) I've bought and am buying more
3) I do not intend to personally sell until ETC>ETH

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Quote from: Minecache on August 15, 2016, 11:27:32 PM

Quote from: EastSound on August 15, 2016, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

They quite rightly don't want to be associated with the ETC criminal coin. I support this moral stance like any rightminded person would.

That could be right. The main problem of the ETC is that it is a criminal coin. Otherewise , it is the same as other clones.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 15, 2016, 11:25:01 PM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

Like the OP you are posting complete lies and FUD. Vitalik is tweeting at least 4 times a day.

It's absolutely vile and disgusting how forum members keep posting downright lies as if truth.

You are not Minecache, you are Dum Dum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gPqfZI-r8

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Quote from: EastSound on August 15, 2016, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

They quite rightly don't want to be associated with the ETC criminal coin. I support this moral stance like any rightminded person would.

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Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

Like the OP you are posting complete lies and FUD. Vitalik is tweeting at least 4 times a day.

It's absolutely vile and disgusting how forum members keep posting downright lies as if truth.

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Quote from: EastSound on August 15, 2016, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

Then return the ETC owned by the DAO holders. There are people from the Ethereum foundation and slock.it who are involved in the white gate hacking group. If they really intended to have nothing to do with ETC then why did they attempt to dump ETC on Poloniex and Kraken. You can read more about it here https://medium.com/@jackfru1t/the-robin-hood-group-and-etc-bdc6a0c111c3#.jgy1h5vfg

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Quote from: dinofelis on August 15, 2016, 02:43:51 AM

Quote from: jacafbiz on August 15, 2016, 02:39:47 AM

I read that Poloniex is consulting with their lawyer to decide what to do about the froze ETC token, any update on this so as to help to decide what to do with my ETC token

I think that Poloniex is making the same "error" as the Ethereum foundation, namely by having an a priori neutral platform make "moral decisions" they get involved. Ethereum was not involved in the DAO problem as long as it was neutral. By getting involved, ETH is now mixed in with all the hassle and failure of the DAO. Poloniex was just an exchange, and is now acting as a judge over what is right and what is wrong. They will end up in deep doodoo if they are not careful.

This is like a phone company suddenly not allowing conversations or altering conversations because the content of the conversation is immoral/illegal according to them. From the moment they do that, they become responsible for all content.

there error is selfjustic just like ethereeum did they have to do a report
thell law enforcment why they had frozen the acounts and leave it to them
but it seems no one in crypto wants to do that.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2016, 04:52:28 AM

Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

Vitalik and many others have already said they will be 100% on the Ethereum ETH, they will have nothing to do with ETC.

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Quote from: spartak_t on August 15, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

It is all over reddit. I believe someone from the Ethereum foundation answered some queries over there or something. I'm not sure.

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I believe that the most famous persons behind ETH and ETC are currently Vitalik Buterin and Barry Silbert. I'm not sure why, but lately they are both too silent on Twitter.

Anyway, are there other articles/statements to support the OP's claim?

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..and justice for all ?
Is it 1988 again ?
and Who will draw the "The Shortest Straw" ?

I think we all got a bit off topic here Cheesy

@Dino
i don't mean to single you out so much as highlight everyone.
Support is support and profit is profit.
Being a shill is being a shill Cheesy

People side step morality here to profit.
I think it wasn't an issue long ago but it's mounting to ridiculous levels.

You all have any bloody idea how many times i have heard..
"I don't support i just mine/dump it" (or trade it for profit) ?
LOTS !
And i mean LOOOOOOOTS !

Got a guy logged on the ETH IRC channel saying exactly that..
He said he don't like it or support but that he mines it, then dumps them.
Just what in the god damn hell do you all think "support" is ?
Where the hell is the common sense people ?

What happens to a coin if no one mines them then sends them to Poloniex to sell ?
It fucking dies !

And why did that ETH IRC guy say that ?
Well for one thing it's because "Butters" tacked on mining after the fact in an attempt to make the coin more legit.
Even though it was nothing but another shitty ass scammy heap of ICO bullshit.
And an extra scammy one to boot !
Did IRC boy care ?

As long as he can keep mining them and dumping them then no he doesn't
And he accepts NO responsibility for any of it all.
Then quickly points the finger at others.
Well.. it's all them ..not me !
I am not a supporter.. i only profit from it etc etc.

Have at 'er guys.
See what it gets you.

Want to watch it implode as you struggle more & more to scrape together a few bucks profit per month ?
Keep it up.

Just think of what *could have been* if you were not sacrificing all of Crypto for peanuts / chump change / pennies.

In this free market system i seen years ago we had a problem brewing..
If each user thinks it's ok to only get a tiny little bit sleazy / scammy for profits.
Then the combined sum total is a one fuck-ton of scammyness !
I started cashing out fast Cheesy

Nothing has changed at all.
Same old cliche'd circle jerk of crypto-dipshitery and the same brick wall is fast approaching.
And the Catalyst will be a sudden wall of regulations and arrests etc that come that have been looming.

What ever.. i said years ago and have been proven correct..
All you all do is point the finger at someone else.
Cloning SCRYPT coins was all the rage and the guys doing it are still here.
Now playing dumb like they were not doing it before.
And they will all gladly pop up here spouting off like they have some cred in the scene.
It was always someone else pulling all this bullshit.. oh no it wasn't me LOL

Like a guy who made a cloning guide(s) as he said in the forward of it "for fun & profit"
A scene FULL of fun & profiteers and when it goes to shit ..you hide !
You guys ALWAYS do.
I never did see Shakezulu show his face here since.
Where did the legions of Doge "Supporters" go ? etc.

Talking shit and Crying FUD for bucks $$$
All on a digital pyramid scheme system designed & engineered to make Bitcoin profits.
..nothing more.

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Quote from: dinofelis on August 15, 2016, 02:43:51 AM

Quote from: jacafbiz on August 15, 2016, 02:39:47 AM

I read that Poloniex is consulting with their lawyer to decide what to do about the froze ETC token, any update on this so as to help to decide what to do with my ETC token

I think that Poloniex is making the same "error" as the Ethereum foundation, namely by having an a priori neutral platform make "moral decisions" they get involved. Ethereum was not involved in the DAO problem as long as it was neutral. By getting involved, ETH is now mixed in with all the hassle and failure of the DAO. Poloniex was just an exchange, and is now acting as a judge over what is right and what is wrong. They will end up in deep doodoo if they are not careful.

This is like a phone company suddenly not allowing conversations or altering conversations because the content of the conversation is immoral/illegal according to them. From the moment they do that, they become responsible for all content.

They kinda got dragged into this. Since bitcoin doesn't have a central regulatory body, they can't turn the coins over to a third party until a decision is made; since they now possess the coins, they are legally liable for who they release the funds to. Can't send it back for obvious reasons. This may even be stolen property. They are playing it safe, and for the crisis it prevented, I can't be mad at that.

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Quote from: jacafbiz on August 15, 2016, 02:39:47 AM

I read that Poloniex is consulting with their lawyer to decide what to do about the froze ETC token, any update on this so as to help to decide what to do with my ETC token

I think that Poloniex is making the same "error" as the Ethereum foundation, namely by having an a priori neutral platform make "moral decisions" they get involved. Ethereum was not involved in the DAO problem as long as it was neutral. By getting involved, ETH is now mixed in with all the hassle and failure of the DAO. Poloniex was just an exchange, and is now acting as a judge over what is right and what is wrong. They will end up in deep doodoo if they are not careful.

This is like a phone company suddenly not allowing conversations or altering conversations because the content of the conversation is immoral/illegal according to them. From the moment they do that, they become responsible for all content.

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Quote from: greenuser on August 14, 2016, 12:51:19 PM

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This is a crazy idea, because it supposes the existence of state and law, but then goes on to do trials in a distributed way. That's contradictory. The state exists to oppress and extort people, and law and justice are just two tools part of that system, so it will never be compatible with such an uncontrolled crowd system. The "reading of the law" is part of the system, and has to be done by state-approved agents (judges).

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I read that Poloniex is consulting with their lawyer to decide what to do about the froze ETC token, any update on this so as to help to decide what to do with my ETC token

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