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So much eth FUD happening. Price will increase instead my gut feeling says
The hard fork is just 30 minutes away. It seems there are not many Ethereum tolls in the forum now.
Don't worry. They will be here continually hating and fudding ETH even if the HF is a success or not.
The hard fork is just 30 minutes away. It seems there are not many Ethereum tolls in the forum now.
65% of the miners in ethpool.org support no fork, but other pools support the hard fork, so it will support HF as well.
Almost 60% of Ethereum miners have upgraded to support Ethereum’s historical hardfork, reaching a conclusive and final decision in alignment with the wishes of Ethereum holders who voted overwhelmingly in favor of the fork, with 87% supporting the restoration of stolen property to their rightful owners.
So the interest of the miners and the Ethereum holder are the same. Does it indicate most miners are also holders?
65% of the miners in ethpool.org support no fork, but other pools support the hard fork, so it will support HF as well.
Almost 60% of Ethereum miners have upgraded to support Ethereum’s historical hardfork, reaching a conclusive and final decision in alignment with the wishes of Ethereum holders who voted overwhelmingly in favor of the fork, with 87% supporting the restoration of stolen property to their rightful owners.
Gud news all round.
Only one pool ethpool.org has fewer miners vote for the hard fork. But it will follow the majority of the miners.
Announcement from ethpool.org:
According to the voting result (65% in favor of not supporting the fork) the pool is supposed not to support the fork. But as all other major pools (e.g. dwarfpool, ethermine, nanopool) are supporting the fork we can and will not jeopardize any mining income of the pool by mining on a chain that has a very high probability to get orphaned. Therefore, according to our voting policy stated in the announcement, we will support the hard fork. More information on the upcoming fork can be found on the Ethereum blog. As a pool miner you do not need to take any action on your side because of the fork.
65% of the miners in ethpool.org support no fork, but other pools support the hard fork, so it will support HF as well.
Only one pool ethpool.org has fewer miners vote for the hard fork. But it will follow the majority of the miners.
Announcement from ethpool.org:
According to the voting result (65% in favor of not supporting the fork) the pool is supposed not to support the fork. But as all other major pools (e.g. dwarfpool, ethermine, nanopool) are supporting the fork we can and will not jeopardize any mining income of the pool by mining on a chain that has a very high probability to get orphaned. Therefore, according to our voting policy stated in the announcement, we will support the hard fork. More information on the upcoming fork can be found on the Ethereum blog. As a pool miner you do not need to take any action on your side because of the fork.
Only one pool ethpool.org has fewer miners vote for the hard fork. But it will follow the majority of the miners.
From the current voting about the hard fork, it seems most of the miners who voted support the hard fork.
One big troll could be from the Monero community. Once up a time, they will post all over the forum about Monero.
the price will go down if:
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
Why are people buying this stuff up to this price? Like you, I can't see the uncertainly immediately after the fork helping anything. So why is this price riding so high? I think it's being manipulated up for the short of the century.
My guess: There are a lot of financial interests at hand that have a bias with the price going up as opposed to down.
But I think this whole DAO hack fiasco has been ETH's "mtgox moment".
Its not the same thing but it sure feels the same from a sentiment standpoint as far as a crisis is concerned.
It seems the trolls are the people who do not own the Etheruem. They mainly own the Monero or other altcoin.
the price will go down if:
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
Why are people buying this stuff up to this price? Like you, I can't see the uncertainly immediately after the fork helping anything. So why is this price riding so high? I think it's being manipulated up for the short of the century.
My guess: There are a lot of financial interests at hand that have a bias with the price going up as opposed to down.
But I think this whole DAO hack fiasco has been ETH's "mtgox moment".
Its not the same thing but it sure feels the same from a sentiment standpoint as far as a crisis is concerned.
the price will go down if:
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
Why are people buying this stuff up to this price? Like you, I can't see the uncertainly immediately after the fork helping anything. So why is this price riding so high? I think it's being manipulated up for the short of the century.
My guess: There are a lot of financial interests at hand that have a bias with the price going up as opposed to down.
But I think this whole DAO hack fiasco has been ETH's "mtgox moment".
Its not the same thing but it sure feels the same from a sentiment standpoint as far as a crisis is concerned.
the price will go down if:
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
Why are people buying this stuff up to this price? Like you, I can't see the uncertainly immediately after the fork helping anything. So why is this price riding so high? I think it's being manipulated up for the short of the century.
the price will go down if:
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
A. They do not fork as the dao hacker will likely sell all that ETH
B. They do fork and those people who recover their funds from the hack will sell their ETH because they are scared and want out of a broken system/project.
Heads you lose, tails you lose.
They just lose less if they do A because then there reputation isn't now tarnished with "do-overs" and rollbacks that can happen in the future should there be another hack down the road.
Would it also be possible for a user to own coins in both chains simultaneously?
Of course. You need to have the ETH in an address you control before the hardfork happens and then make a copy of your wallet and run 2 instances of geth one on each blockchain.
If your ETH are at an exchange when the hard fork happens you'll get whatever the exchanges decides.
Poloniex will support the main chain. But it will also support the secondary chain briefly. So you can have two coins.
quote:
The lay of the land
Within the decentralized community, there remains disagreement on the path forward, a factor that has given rise to vigilante efforts, most notably the mysterious Robin Hood group.
This group of coders, whose identities are largely unknown as a matter of security, has prepared a two-prong maneuver – or white-hat attack – against the Dark DAO exploiters.
The measure is a safety net of sorts, in case the hard fork, now the only option developers have to regain the funds, fails in any way.
At stake in this epic computer battle between white hats and Dark DAOs is more than investor funds, but potentially the future of a new business model without leaders.
Some, including Jentzsch, are now worried that, should efforts by the community to resolve the situation be unsuccessful, government authorities will step in.
end quote:
Source: http://www.coindesk.com/author-daos-original-code-minimize-regulatory-backlash/
The lay of the land
Within the decentralized community, there remains disagreement on the path forward, a factor that has given rise to vigilante efforts, most notably the mysterious Robin Hood group.
This group of coders, whose identities are largely unknown as a matter of security, has prepared a two-prong maneuver – or white-hat attack – against the Dark DAO exploiters.
The measure is a safety net of sorts, in case the hard fork, now the only option developers have to regain the funds, fails in any way.
At stake in this epic computer battle between white hats and Dark DAOs is more than investor funds, but potentially the future of a new business model without leaders.
Some, including Jentzsch, are now worried that, should efforts by the community to resolve the situation be unsuccessful, government authorities will step in.
end quote:
Source: http://www.coindesk.com/author-daos-original-code-minimize-regulatory-backlash/
https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
https://medium.com/@bit_novosti/a-crypto-decentralist-manifesto-6ba1fa0b9ede#.4o81jqizo
The revolt against the HF is growing.
https://medium.com/@bit_novosti/a-crypto-decentralist-manifesto-6ba1fa0b9ede#.4o81jqizo
The revolt against the HF is growing.
I'd like to see a real exchange come out in support ETHC trading.
Coinbase To Add Ethereum Direct Buys later This Month
Prob after 20th, but you will be able to buy Eth with a linked card or sell eth and have the cash put on your credit card, just like btc. (Thanks R3)
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