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Topic: ETH hardfork incoming. - page 8. (Read 18991 times)

legendary
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In Cryptography We Trust
July 17, 2016, 03:34:58 AM
Would it also be possible for a user to own coins in both chains simultaneously?

Of course. You need to have the ETH in an address you control before the hardfork happens and then make a copy of your wallet and run 2 instances of geth one on each blockchain.
If your ETH are at an exchange when the hard fork happens you'll get whatever the exchanges decides.

legendary
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July 17, 2016, 01:54:05 AM
There is mention that Poloniex is the only exchange that will allow withdrawals to both chains. How true is this and what will be the implications? Would it also be possible for a user to own coins in both chains simultaneously?
legendary
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July 17, 2016, 01:47:23 AM
And we are locked in for the hard fork... -> https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases/tag/v1.4.10

87% of ETH voted for the hard fork but roughly only 5% of the outstanding ether voted. It is going to be a very interesting experiment indeed. Can both chains survive long term? and could the aggregate value be greater than the original chain?

Make sure your ETH are in an address you control before block 1920000.
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legendary
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Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
July 16, 2016, 08:21:40 AM
If the majority of the miners accept the bribe and do not soft fork, the Ethereum is destroyed. The ethereum they get is worthless.
Yep soft fork is history.  Anyway what does it have to do with miners?  The pools decide which "Geth" they run.  Miners will not solo to their own "Geth", it takes to long to find a block.  And the pools will probably end up being the validators when it all goes to PoS

Anyone can vote on http://carbonvote.com/ it is not just limited to miners
legendary
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July 16, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
If the majority of the miners accept the bribe and do not soft fork, the Ethereum is destroyed. The ethereum they get is worthless.

The soft fork proposal is long dead, it would have left ETH vulnerable to DoS attacks. You should know this.
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July 16, 2016, 06:48:14 AM
If the majority of the miners accept the bribe and do not soft fork, the Ethereum is destroyed. The ethereum they get is worthless.
legendary
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July 16, 2016, 05:56:19 AM

LoL, I was planning to run both chains at the same time too, I wonder how many others will do the same Cheesy

"There could be an issue in the way the P2P protocol was split that causes cross-talk. There could also be myriad game theoretical attacks possible, like we saw in the DAO -- this is a protocol level change and not just a single contract, it's very much more complex. The DAO was studied for months and much was missed, this has been days from conception to completion."

 Smiley

Vitalik should relax and think this through. You can very may well see that the leadership in Ethereum is in panic mode. This is their inexperience showing.
legendary
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July 16, 2016, 05:48:00 AM
ETHC will fork away from Vitalik and his nanny chain can whore itself out to the highest bidder. Smiley

Thats a done deal.  It's called The R3 Consortium
As of June 23rd they are:
Barclays, BBVA, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Royal Bank of Scotland, State Street, UBS, Bank of America, BNY Mellon, Citi, Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, Morgan Stanley, National Australia Bank, Royal Bank of Canada, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken, Société Générale, Toronto-Dominion Bank,  Mizuho Bank, Nordea, UniCredit,  BNP Paribas, Wells Fargo, ING, Macquarie Group, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce,  BMO Financial Group, Danske Bank, Intesa Sanpaolo, Natixis, Nomura, Northern Trust, OP Financial Group, Banco Santander, Scotiabank, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, U.S. Bancorp, Westpac Banking Corporation, SBI Holdings of Japan, Hana Financial of South Korea, Bank Itau of Brazil and Toyota Financial Services.

Not that there are any cartels in the banking world  Cheesy  But, surely you didn't think that bloated market cap came from forum users did you?




Is this true? Was there an official statement saying it so? Because Ethereum has a myriad of problems we have not seen yet. Who is even the expert telling them to commit to Ethereum? And also scalability is a concern.
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July 16, 2016, 04:18:39 AM
Is tentative date for hardfork?
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July 16, 2016, 03:32:20 AM

LoL, I was planning to run both chains at the same time too, I wonder how many others will do the same Cheesy

So you should buy a lot of Ethereum now and then you will have double the amount in both chains.
legendary
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July 16, 2016, 02:57:58 AM

LoL, I was planning to run both chains at the same time too, I wonder how many others will do the same Cheesy

"There could be an issue in the way the P2P protocol was split that causes cross-talk. There could also be myriad game theoretical attacks possible, like we saw in the DAO -- this is a protocol level change and not just a single contract, it's very much more complex. The DAO was studied for months and much was missed, this has been days from conception to completion."

 Smiley
sr. member
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July 16, 2016, 02:55:22 AM

LoL, I was planning to run both chains at the same time too, I wonder how many others will do the same Cheesy
legendary
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July 16, 2016, 02:41:39 AM
ETHC will fork away from Vitalik and his nanny chain can whore itself out to the highest bidder. Smiley

Thats a done deal.  It's called The R3 Consortium
As of June 23rd they are:
Barclays, BBVA, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Royal Bank of Scotland, State Street, UBS, Bank of America, BNY Mellon, Citi, Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, Morgan Stanley, National Australia Bank, Royal Bank of Canada, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken, Société Générale, Toronto-Dominion Bank,  Mizuho Bank, Nordea, UniCredit,  BNP Paribas, Wells Fargo, ING, Macquarie Group, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce,  BMO Financial Group, Danske Bank, Intesa Sanpaolo, Natixis, Nomura, Northern Trust, OP Financial Group, Banco Santander, Scotiabank, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, U.S. Bancorp, Westpac Banking Corporation, SBI Holdings of Japan, Hana Financial of South Korea, Bank Itau of Brazil and Toyota Financial Services.

Not that there are any cartels in the banking world  Cheesy  But, surely you didn't think that bloated market cap came from forum users did you?




Excellent observation!!! Many people still believe it came from normal users. Lol.
sr. member
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July 16, 2016, 02:26:40 AM
ETHC will fork away from Vitalik and his nanny chain can whore itself out to the highest bidder. Smiley

Thats a done deal.  It's called The R3 Consortium
As of June 23rd they are:
Barclays, BBVA, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Royal Bank of Scotland, State Street, UBS, Bank of America, BNY Mellon, Citi, Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group, Morgan Stanley, National Australia Bank, Royal Bank of Canada, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken, Société Générale, Toronto-Dominion Bank,  Mizuho Bank, Nordea, UniCredit,  BNP Paribas, Wells Fargo, ING, Macquarie Group, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce,  BMO Financial Group, Danske Bank, Intesa Sanpaolo, Natixis, Nomura, Northern Trust, OP Financial Group, Banco Santander, Scotiabank, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, U.S. Bancorp, Westpac Banking Corporation, SBI Holdings of Japan, Hana Financial of South Korea, Bank Itau of Brazil and Toyota Financial Services.

Not that there are any cartels in the banking world  Cheesy  But, surely you didn't think that bloated market cap came from forum users did you?


legendary
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July 16, 2016, 02:08:26 AM
>So what is the definite date of the hard fork?
The hard fork will occur at block 1,920,000 on or around Wednesday, July 20th.
>Have they decalred it already?
Yup. Totally decalred.
>This might be good or bad for the platform.
I 'spose.
>If they do hard fork they should hope that banks and companies will still be interested in using the platform.
Let 'em have it. ETHC will fork away from Vitalik and his nanny chain can whore itself out to the highest bidder. Smiley

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