Topic: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? - page 41. (Read 198829 times)

Quote from: uncaer9 on July 13, 2016, 12:02:29 AM

lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

I think that guy should sue the Ethereum and then we will know if he has any basis to do that kind of thing.

It depends on the Ethereum community's support of the hard fork, if they like it, then it will be live and well.

I think the community has already expressed support for the hard fork, the question is will speculators think confidence in the coin has fallen post fork? If you wanted your money back, you had no choice but to vote yes for the fork. So apparently the majority of the community wants cash, instead of ideological soundness. I'm not knocking it, I would probably want my money back as well, depending on how much I had invested. But speculators are going to ride this like a horse, and the people that are preparing to short this after the fork might just ruin the price. That would certainly explain why the price has been so seemingly propped up as of late.

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so ethereum will be dead ?

Quote from: Unisonal on July 12, 2016, 12:53:55 PM

Quote from: Unisonal on July 12, 2016, 12:53:55 PM

lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

I think that guy should sue the Ethereum and then we will know if he has any basis to do that kind of thing.

It depends on the Ethereum community's support of the hard fork, if they like it, then it will be live and well.

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so ethereum will be dead ?

lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

I think that guy should sue the Ethereum and then we will know if he has any basis to do that kind of thing.

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lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

I think that guy should sue the Ethereum and then we will know if he has any basis to do that kind of thing.

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Quote from: lucsky on July 10, 2016, 03:33:11 PM

lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

Didn't I read somewhere some of the code for Bitcoin was covered under intellectual property rights at the time? And that this would actually have been a really good reason to be anonymous about creating it?
Anyway, its not like we invented private-key encryption. We stole most of the best parts I should think. Cool

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lawsuits can be directed at vitalik, how does one sue the ceo of bitcoin?

Developer Claims Ethereum is Stolen Intellectual Property, Files Complaints with FBI

http://cointelegraph.com/news/developer-claims-ethereum-is-stolen-intellectual-property-files-complaints-with-fbi

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This guy gets it: Contracts on an immutable blockchain can be made mutable by including escape clauses in case human arbitration is needed. In contrast, contracts on a mutable blockchain cannot be made immutable.

These people want to throw away the unique use case Ethereum was designed for only to get something it can already do. What it can't already do is protect investors from making bad choices, but trying to do that is a fool's errand.

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Quote from: thms on February 07, 2016, 11:04:10 PM

Maybe moving some % of BTC into ETH is a good diversification strategy, while it's cheap?

No Way! I do not dare to invest in a currency that is doomed to failure.
And for those who advocate "DAO is one thing, ETH is quite another," well, if they were so different, is not being discussed a fork.

Currently, the best investment that can be made are innovative and promising currencies like the Decred, Vcash, etc.

I do not think Ethereum is doomed to fail. But we will see the outcome of the aftermath of DAO hack in a few months.

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Quote from: thms on February 07, 2016, 11:04:10 PM

Maybe moving some % of BTC into ETH is a good diversification strategy, while it's cheap?

No Way! I do not dare to invest in a currency that is doomed to failure.
And for those who advocate "DAO is one thing, ETH is quite another," well, if they were so different, is not being discussed a fork.

Currently, the best investment that can be made are innovative and promising currencies like the Decred, Vcash, etc.

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Quote from: Qinetik on July 10, 2016, 02:59:03 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 10, 2016, 11:06:41 AM

Quote from: Blerand on July 10, 2016, 05:51:24 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 02:44:37 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 10, 2016, 11:06:41 AM

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It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

That is right. I did not learn from the other coin. I decide that event is a theft and will mine the hard fork.

As usual, short sighted greed wins in the end. Have fun finding another coin for mining after you guys destroy this one. Are you miners really that stupid?

I will keep on securing the Ethereum network if it survives this crisis. We should give it time to recover.

Why? Hasn't its only value proposition as a decentralized smart contract platform become the butt of jokes? Didn't that happen?

VV That post sure took a turn for the worse. VV

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Quote from: Blerand on July 10, 2016, 05:51:24 AM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 02:44:37 PM

Quote from: Blerand on July 10, 2016, 05:51:24 AM

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It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

That is right. I did not learn from the other coin. I decide that event is a theft and will mine the hard fork.

As usual, short sighted greed wins in the end. Have fun finding another coin for mining after you guys destroy this one. Are you miners really that stupid?

I will keep on securing the Ethereum network if it survives this crisis. We should give it time to recover.

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 02:44:37 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 02:44:37 PM

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It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

That is right. I did not learn from the other coin. I decide that event is a theft and will mine the hard fork.

As usual, short sighted greed wins in the end. Have fun finding another coin for mining after you guys destroy this one. Are you miners really that stupid?

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Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 02:44:37 PM

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It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

That is right. I did not learn from the other coin. I decide that event is a theft and will mine the hard fork.

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The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

They treat it as though it were a baby coin with a cap of a few million, when this thing was over 1.5 billion. Here's a tip - if you want to learn from your mistakes, don't bill yourself as a pro, because those mistakes will prove expensive.

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Quote from: Hueristic on July 09, 2016, 12:42:49 PM

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It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

The HF is proof they have not learned from all those before them. Please tell me the definition of crazy.

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Quote from: Zer0Sum on July 09, 2016, 11:57:25 AM

Quote from: GreenBits on July 08, 2016, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: Tacalt on July 09, 2016, 01:35:38 AM

Ether is too big to fail because its premise hold endless opportunities and benifits. Understand the business and you will understand the product! Understand the product and you too will invest with knowledge, not forum gossip.

Nothing is too big to fail. Observe the past American housing market, or banking industry. I'm pretty sure those guys percieved themselves as 'too big to fail', right up to the Congressional hearing. And we are talking about serious market capitalizations.

"To big to fail" does not refer to market cap or $$$ size...
It refers to disastrous secondary effects due to the interconnectedness of institutions... so context is everything.

The $$$ size of major US banks circa 2008 was not the issue...
But their failure would have created a disastrous cascade... and liquidity crunch... and brought the US economy to a halt.

The DAO was "to big to fail" only in the context of Ethereum.
Ethereum itself, in real world terms, is of zero consequence... it's just another obscure tech startup.

QFT

Quote from: GreenBits on July 08, 2016, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: Zer0Sum on July 09, 2016, 11:57:25 AM

Ether is too big to fail because its premise hold endless opportunities and benifits. Understand the business and you will understand the product! Understand the product and you too will invest with knowledge, not forum gossip.

Nothing is too big to fail. Observe the past American housing market, or banking industry. I'm pretty sure those guys percieved themselves as 'too big to fail', right up to the Congressional hearing. And we are talking about serious market capitalizations.

As long as the Ethereum is supported by the community including the miners, and it is developed successfully, it will not fail.

Well that there is the point you are missing, it IS NOT being developed successfully now is it.

It is not developed successfully, that is simiilar to other coins in early stages. I hope it will learn a lesson.

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Quote from: GreenBits on July 08, 2016, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: Tacalt on July 09, 2016, 01:35:38 AM

Ether is too big to fail because its premise hold endless opportunities and benifits. Understand the business and you will understand the product! Understand the product and you too will invest with knowledge, not forum gossip.

Nothing is too big to fail. Observe the past American housing market, or banking industry. I'm pretty sure those guys percieved themselves as 'too big to fail', right up to the Congressional hearing. And we are talking about serious market capitalizations.

"To big to fail" does not refer to market cap or $$$ size...
It refers to disastrous secondary effects due to the interconnectedness of institutions... so context is everything.

The $$$ size of major US banks circa 2008 was not the issue...
But their failure would have created a disastrous cascade... and liquidity crunch... and brought the US economy to a halt.

The DAO was "to big to fail" only in the context of Ethereum.
Ethereum itself, in real world terms, is of zero consequence... it's just another obscure tech startup.

QFT

Quote from: GreenBits on July 08, 2016, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: GreenBits on July 08, 2016, 07:51:37 AM

Ether is too big to fail because its premise hold endless opportunities and benifits. Understand the business and you will understand the product! Understand the product and you too will invest with knowledge, not forum gossip.

Nothing is too big to fail. Observe the past American housing market, or banking industry. I'm pretty sure those guys percieved themselves as 'too big to fail', right up to the Congressional hearing. And we are talking about serious market capitalizations.

As long as the Ethereum is supported by the community including the miners, and it is developed successfully, it will not fail.

Well that there is the point you are missing, it IS NOT being developed successfully now is it.

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