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legendary
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May 22, 2016, 04:10:28 AM
How do you go about under volt cards? Can you do this though MSI afterburner, or do you need to use some custom Bios update for cards?

Just tick 'unlock voltage control' in AB compatibility properties, after that you can move core voltage slider in the opening screen.

sr. member
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May 22, 2016, 03:41:18 AM
You can edit the bios and flash your card with it, there is a forum topic around here that goes through the process, it is quite easy.  They use the atiflash program that you use in msdos and flash your cards with, I used it to flash one of my voltage locked 7950's a while ago.  Anyway they say after the modded bios the card only consumes 187 watts!  I think stock it uses about 240 watts so that is really good.  they still hash at 27 mh also

how come a 7950 does 27mhashes ? What is your ATI driver and what setting do you use ?

That is the performance of R9 390, not a 7950. The bandwidth o f7950 is too narrow to get 27 MH/s.
legendary
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May 22, 2016, 03:00:39 AM
its depend on your electricity price. For me it's still profitable with 15-20 eth every month.

cheaper consumption is always welcome, whne you have a big farm that counts too much to be ignored, imho
sr. member
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May 22, 2016, 02:51:37 AM
its depend on your electricity price. For me it's still profitable with 15-20 eth every month.
legendary
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May 22, 2016, 02:48:08 AM
(1) By the time Polaris shows up, ETH could very well have collapsed on price. We're talking MONTHS out before they'll be available for sale.

(2) There is no guarentee the Polaris cards will mine any better or even as well as current cards. Consider what a dud the GTX 1080 is so far on ETH mining.

(3) AMD is notorious for needing quite a bit longer to get drivers optimised for their new cards than NVidia does.

(4) The reports I've seen are all about Polaris initial cards being mid-range - R7 or BOTTOM R9 replacements - NOT mid-upper to high-end. AMD seems to be targeting the "mass sales" nich around where the GTX950/960 are going to have to "hold the fort" for NVidia for the rest of the year more-or-less.

 That last point should be a good thing for AMD's bottom line this year, which they need badly after too many years in a row of losses.



even if they mine with the same hash they consume less, that is enough for me to buy
legendary
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May 22, 2016, 02:37:08 AM
You can edit the bios and flash your card with it, there is a forum topic around here that goes through the process, it is quite easy.  They use the atiflash program that you use in msdos and flash your cards with, I used it to flash one of my voltage locked 7950's a while ago.  Anyway they say after the modded bios the card only consumes 187 watts!  I think stock it uses about 240 watts so that is really good.  they still hash at 27 mh also

how come a 7950 does 27mhashes ? What is your ATI driver and what setting do you use ?
legendary
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May 22, 2016, 02:32:56 AM
(1) By the time Polaris shows up, ETH could very well have collapsed on price. We're talking MONTHS out before they'll be available for sale.

(2) There is no guarentee the Polaris cards will mine any better or even as well as current cards. Consider what a dud the GTX 1080 is so far on ETH mining.

(3) AMD is notorious for needing quite a bit longer to get drivers optimised for their new cards than NVidia does.

(4) The reports I've seen are all about Polaris initial cards being mid-range - R7 or BOTTOM R9 replacements - NOT mid-upper to high-end. AMD seems to be targeting the "mass sales" nich around where the GTX950/960 are going to have to "hold the fort" for NVidia for the rest of the year more-or-less.

 That last point should be a good thing for AMD's bottom line this year, which they need badly after too many years in a row of losses.

legendary
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May 22, 2016, 01:44:19 AM
What sized power supply will i need for a system with 3x R9 390 Video Cards?  How about 4x - I have the cards just want to make sure i buy the right power supply



wait for new 490 polaris, they will consume 120w, with 1kw psu you run 6, much better
hero member
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May 21, 2016, 10:38:39 PM
You can edit the bios and flash your card with it, there is a forum topic around here that goes through the process, it is quite easy.  They use the atiflash program that you use in msdos and flash your cards with, I used it to flash one of my voltage locked 7950's a while ago.  Anyway they say after the modded bios the card only consumes 187 watts!  I think stock it uses about 240 watts so that is really good.  they still hash at 27 mh also
member
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May 21, 2016, 06:32:54 PM
What sized power supply will i need for a system with 3x R9 390 Video Cards?  How about 4x - I have the cards just want to make sure i buy the right power supply



If you under volt the R9 390 by -100mV, it will consume about 220-240W each, so for 4x390, 1250W is more than enough.

 How do you go about under volt cards? Can you do this though MSI afterburner, or do you need to use some custom Bios update for cards?
sr. member
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May 21, 2016, 06:25:29 PM
What sized power supply will i need for a system with 3x R9 390 Video Cards?  How about 4x - I have the cards just want to make sure i buy the right power supply



If you under volt the R9 390 by -100mV, it will consume about 220-240W each, so for 4x390, 1250W is more than enough.

Will that impact the hashrate?
sr. member
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May 21, 2016, 08:50:02 AM
What sized power supply will i need for a system with 3x R9 390 Video Cards?  How about 4x - I have the cards just want to make sure i buy the right power supply



If you under volt the R9 390 by -100mV, it will consume about 220-240W each, so for 4x390, 1250W is more than enough.
sr. member
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May 21, 2016, 07:14:26 AM
What sized power supply will i need for a system with 3x R9 390 Video Cards?  How about 4x - I have the cards just want to make sure i buy the right power supply

legendary
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May 21, 2016, 02:25:12 AM
Ethereum mining is more profitable at this time, and probably will remain that way for at least a couple more months.

Mostly it comes down to what the price is at right now, and the slow difficulty cree p built into DAG file growth.

 The big hit to many current Ethereum miners will happen when the DAG file gets too big for a 2 Gig GPU to be able to mine any more, assuming Ethereum is still profitable by then - on the plus side, folks with 3Gig+ cards should show a jump in profitability for a while after that.

 Not a big deal to folks like Phil and I that are mostly or entirely mining on existing left-over-from-Litecoin (or left-over-from-X11 etc) hardware - it's just extra profit on hardware that was already paid for or mostly so while it still works. It's the folks spending $$$ on new gear that might never achieve ROI that are gonna hurt, though they should be able to recoup most of their losses or even end up profitable by selling off some of their used gear when it's no longer profitable.


 (No, my 5 NVidia cards weren't left-overs - but I was in process of buying them ANYWAY, so they are kinda-sorta that way by my figuring. ALL of the rest of the hardware I'm mining on at this point except for an $80 HD 7870 were Litecoin/X11 left-overs that I was using in my DNet/GIMPS efforts, bought specifically FOR those efforts and have been re-purposed for a while).



full member
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May 20, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
So the big mining farms are very confident that they will make money even after the Etheruem becomes PoS.
I think ethereum dont like to be a pos because if they convert it into pos the price of ethereum will be down..
And according to miners outside in this forum i heard that minig ethereum still profitable than s9 miner..

GPU mining is more profitable than the bitcoin mining for home miners. The bitcoin mining below to farms.
legendary
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May 20, 2016, 12:45:29 PM
So the big mining farms are very confident that they will make money even after the Etheruem becomes PoS.
I think ethereum dont like to be a pos because if they convert it into pos the price of ethereum will be down..
And according to miners outside in this forum i heard that minig ethereum still profitable than s9 miner..
sr. member
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May 20, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
So the big mining farms are very confident that they will make money even after the Etheruem becomes PoS.
sr. member
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May 20, 2016, 02:03:46 AM
Back on topic.

Nice price increase, almost a 50% gain or more depending how you look at it.  But the farms have continued to increase capacity ( or a new one going online), saw hash jump up 200 gh above normal levels tonight.  That would be the equivalent of 7'400 R9 390's going online or the total hash rate increasing 6.6%, pretty crazy when you think of it like that.  We will easily be looking at a 500 gh increase this month, probably more.  It seems 200 gh farms are becoming more common, being that I am beginning to notice spikes in that range when it does spike.

That is very concerning for us home miners. If the price goes back to 0.02 and the difficulty double, it is not profitable.
legendary
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May 20, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Very profitable to mine. Going 240 for power where available really drops electric cost as well.

 240 vs 120 on most gold power supplies is only a 1-2% gain in efficiency. Not exactly a big drop in electric cost, though every bit can help sometimes.

 $1200 with good part selection would probably get you a rig doing 80-90 MH easily, with VERY carefull part selection on parts on sale might get you to 120 - assuming new parts and from-scratch build.
 Better to upgrade existing machines on a hahs/$ basis as much as possible.


 I expect GTX970 prices to collapse over the next month, as the GTX 1070 is due out June 10 and blows away the 970 hands-down for most usage - most of the benchmarks I've seen put the 1070 in Titan performance territory or a little higher.

 Now, if someone could get an ETH miner optimised to work WELL on the 1070.......


 Dropping the voltage by 10%, assuming no change in resistance, actually drops the power draw to 81% - but pretty close to that 20% quoted.
hero member
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May 20, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
Back on topic.

Nice price increase, almost a 50% gain or more depending how you look at it.  But the farms have continued to increase capacity ( or a new one going online), saw hash jump up 200 gh above normal levels tonight.  That would be the equivalent of 7'400 R9 390's going online or the total hash rate increasing 6.6%, pretty crazy when you think of it like that.  We will easily be looking at a 500 gh increase this month, probably more.  It seems 200 gh farms are becoming more common, being that I am beginning to notice spikes in that range when it does spike.
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