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legendary
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Germany, following the results of the Second World War, was totally destroyed. Industry, infrastructure, major cities were destroyed ... Plus, the USSR alone took out (one can say that it unilaterally awarded itself reparations) took thousands of industrial enterprises to the territory of the USSR.
Also, the USSR took out a huge amount of material and cultural values (from banks, vaults, museums, private collections and other sources), both at the state level and by soldiers of the USSR army.
I assume you are from Russia, welcome, I have spent around two years in your country.
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It's close, but not exact Smiley
I was born on the territory of the USSR, on the territory of the republic of the RSFSR (now this fragment of the USSR is called the Russian Federation). I was lucky, as a child I left this dull place for a while, lived for 4 years in Europe, although it was part of the Warsaw Pact, and returned to the USSR, but not to the RSFSR, but to the Ukrainian SSR (today's Ukraine).
At the same time, I still have relatives in the RSFSR / RF. And until 2014, I visited the Russian Federation and they came to Ukraine. This is such an introduction to make it clear that I know well what the USSR is, what the modern Russian Federation is and what Ukraine is Smiley

I will say right away - Ukraine is certainly not the most ideal country, but a country that has turned its back on the "Soviet ideology" and has chosen the path of development along the European / Western path. Whether we are changing our lives for good or bad is a matter for discussion. But at least we began to move away from the obviously negative vector - an alliance with Russia, and "the Soviet Union number 2."

But Russia, indeed, as you say - HAD a chance to become the largest economy in the world. A technologically advanced country with a high standard of living. Yes, there are resources, and it seems like the heritage of science and technology of the USSR ... But totalitarianism and "genetic craving for the king at the head" led to what you are seeing now ... Degradation, corruption, theft, tyranny of the authorities, in fact, a slave-owning system, tyranny and as it turned out - total fakes in everything - from the economy to the army ....
Smart people - they left Russia a long time ago and live beautifully and happily in the EU, the USA, Canada, and in many other countries ... The rest chose "an empire, greatness, and so that the whole world is afraid of this empire" ...
The results you see how it ends. The result will be a loud pop of the bubble, even louder than the bursting of the USSR.
legendary
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If Germany had not thought to use oil and gas in large quantities from Russia, then it would not have supported the construction of the Nord Stream almost until very recently. In Europe, they planned to switch to alternative energy sources, but gradually, stretching this pleasure for more than a dozen years. Russia's attack on Ukraine has confused all plans, and not only Europe.
As for nuclear energy, nuclear power plants are very sensitive to natural disasters. How would Turkey feel now during the current earthquakes, if there were many nuclear power plants on its territory? Therefore, the energy of both the sun and wind is much safer.
EU learning to use alternative energy is much better solution than printing more money. Do they really think that an economic crisis could lessen the problem in energy? I think it will only make it worse. There's even a saying that making another problem, won't solve the previous problem. Nuclear power plants on the other hand are actually safe. Surprising isn't?

And then each nuclear power plants are located to an isolated area, very far away from the people or in the city so don't worry in case there are earthquakes and other natural calamities but no doubt that natural energies which came from the sun, wind water, heat, and alike are still much safer and more better to use.
legendary
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In contrast, Russia is steadily reducing oil and gas exports against the West. Germany is one of the most economically powerful countries in the European Union. Germany is known as a leading country in terms of environmental friendly regulations. In Germany, the rate of energy production from solar, wind or hydropower has steadily increased. Germany once used massive amounts of fuel from coal and nuclear reactors, and Europe must now consider alternative energy systems.

If you ask me, Germany did not think about the consequences of their dependence on Russian energy.
Sure they had planned to move towards green energy or alternative energies, but not as fast as they should have to avoid the backlash from the Ukraine war.

Also, I am not sure how to feel on Germany being afraid of nuclear energy, look at France for example, they have managed to turn nuclear energy into a reliable part of their power generation.


If Germany had not thought to use oil and gas in large quantities from Russia, then it would not have supported the construction of the Nord Stream almost until very recently. In Europe, they planned to switch to alternative energy sources, but gradually, stretching this pleasure for more than a dozen years. Russia's attack on Ukraine has confused all plans, and not only Europe.
As for nuclear energy, nuclear power plants are very sensitive to natural disasters. How would Turkey feel now during the current earthquakes, if there were many nuclear power plants on its territory? Therefore, the energy of both the sun and wind is much safer.

Germany is indeed in an acceleration process of the transition plans towards clean energy after all these attacks on Ukraine soil. Ironically, despite of this Germany has one of the biggest reserves of mineral coal of Europe and the world, they have been counting on them in case things go out of control for a short period of time, actually they have been mining coal, just in case.

Also, Fusion energy (if commercially available) could be a safe replacement to fission facilities.

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In contrast, Russia is steadily reducing oil and gas exports against the West. Germany is one of the most economically powerful countries in the European Union. Germany is known as a leading country in terms of environmental friendly regulations. In Germany, the rate of energy production from solar, wind or hydropower has steadily increased. Germany once used massive amounts of fuel from coal and nuclear reactors, and Europe must now consider alternative energy systems.

If you ask me, Germany did not think about the consequences of their dependence on Russian energy.
Sure they had planned to move towards green energy or alternative energies, but not as fast as they should have to avoid the backlash from the Ukraine war.

Also, I am not sure how to feel on Germany being afraid of nuclear energy, look at France for example, they have managed to turn nuclear energy into a reliable part of their power generation.


If Germany had not thought to use oil and gas in large quantities from Russia, then it would not have supported the construction of the Nord Stream almost until very recently. In Europe, they planned to switch to alternative energy sources, but gradually, stretching this pleasure for more than a dozen years. Russia's attack on Ukraine has confused all plans, and not only Europe.
As for nuclear energy, nuclear power plants are very sensitive to natural disasters. How would Turkey feel now during the current earthquakes, if there were many nuclear power plants on its territory? Therefore, the energy of both the sun and wind is much safer.
legendary
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this is partly because between 2015 to march 2016 about 700 million euros was printed and circulated.
That is too long ago. Try the recent past like from 2019 till today (during COVID19 pandemic and the Russian conflict with NATO) and try trillions printed not millions. For example UK national debt alone grew from about 1.8£ trillion to 3.7£ trillion over past 3 years. This is while between 2016 and 2019 it only went from 1.65£ trillion to 1.8£ trillion.
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The relationship between the EU conglomerate is quite commendable because considering the current hike in gas prices it would have only been natural for the Euros to colapse to the dollar but its still maintaining parity. this is partly because between 2015 to march 2016 about 700 million euros was printed and circulated. this had and has helped member states to be cocooned from the the pressure of energy and other economic crisis and also debts of all member states will be reduced because they will buy back the bonds
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Germany, following the results of the Second World War, was totally destroyed. Industry, infrastructure, major cities were destroyed ... Plus, the USSR alone took out (one can say that it unilaterally awarded itself reparations) took thousands of industrial enterprises to the territory of the USSR.
Also, the USSR took out a huge amount of material and cultural values (from banks, vaults, museums, private collections and other sources), both at the state level and by soldiers of the USSR army.
I assume you are from Russia, welcome, I have spent around two years in your country.
I want to remind you that those facts only strengthen what I say. USSR alone took all of that as you say, okay, right but still why is the quality of life in your country so low? Why are there so many alcoholics, why is the life outside of Moscow and Saint Petersburg absolutely terrible? You have all the resources + took the resources from Germany and still life is shit.
If you have such a good state, why is there high demand from students in your country to study abroad in Germany, USA, UK?
Do you really like the look of your soviet architecture when you go outside? Do you really find joy when you go outside and see these buildings?



By the way I want to remind you that Germany had an unbeliveable hyperinflation. It was so severe in 1920 that a waiter would stand up on a table every 30 minutes to call out the new prices. And imagine, in one century Germany, after the ww1 and ww2, managed to become forth largest economy in the world. Don't underestimate Germany and German people.
That's true but you need to expand your view instead of focusing on one country; everywhere you look in the history you see the same rise and falls repeated over and over again. Empires rise and rise until some day they fall and then from those ashes they rise again.
That's absolutely right.
legendary
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European countries are getting deeper in debt as the energy crisis worsens. For example Germany is going to set a record high debt of $539 billion according to bloomberg
Since you don't live in Europe, you can chill and relax.
Despite some other users insisting on changing the subject, I'm trying to analyze The Big Shuffle that is taking place on a global scale affecting everyone who is living on earth! Such big changes have always affected everyone in history, specially when the World Order is being replaced.

In my opinion what happens to Europe in the next couple of years is the defining factor in the New World Order, hence the focus on Europe.

By the way I want to remind you that Germany had an unbeliveable hyperinflation. It was so severe in 1920 that a waiter would stand up on a table every 30 minutes to call out the new prices. And imagine, in one century Germany, after the ww1 and ww2, managed to become forth largest economy in the world. Don't underestimate Germany and German people.
That's true but you need to expand your view instead of focusing on one country; everywhere you look in the history you see the same rise and falls repeated over and over again. Empires rise and rise until some day they fall and then from those ashes they rise again.
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This is not some ancient history we're talking about, it's all recent. They recently went on a money printing spree during the pandemic and the consequences of it are being felt today in form of economic crisis. Euro, Dollar, Pound, etc all got dumped because of it and yet to solve the energy crisis they decided to print even more money and inject it into the industry to artificially lower the price for a short time; the reduction is not even that significant and we already know the consequences of market manipulation like this!
Yeah true; those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The recent monetary policies adopted by central banks in response to the COVID-19 pandemic have led to concerns about inflation and currency devaluation. The injection of large amounts of money into the economy through quantitative easing measures can lead to artificially low interest rates and market manipulation.

The impact of these policies on currency values and energy prices is complex and multifaceted. It's important for policymakers to consider the long-term consequences of their actions and strive to find sustainable solutions that address the root causes of economic challenges, rather than relying on short-term, artificially induced fixes.
Yeah usually economic issues are interconnected and cannot be solved by addressing one problem alone. To solve the energy crisis, policymakers need to address not only the monetary aspects, but also the technological and environmental aspects. In general, it's important for individuals to stay informed about economic policies and developments, and to consider the potential long-term consequences of these policies on their own financial well-being.
legendary
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Since you don't live in Europe, you can chill and relax.
By the way I want to remind you that Germany had an unbeliveable hyperinflation. It was so severe in 1920 that a waiter would stand up on a table every 30 minutes to call out the new prices. And imagine, in one century Germany, after the ww1 and ww2, managed to become forth largest economy in the world. Don't underestimate Germany and German people.

Germany, following the results of the Second World War, was totally destroyed. Industry, infrastructure, major cities were destroyed ... Plus, the USSR alone took out (one can say that it unilaterally awarded itself reparations) took thousands of industrial enterprises to the territory of the USSR.
Also, the USSR took out a huge amount of material and cultural values (from banks, vaults, museums, private collections and other sources), both at the state level and by soldiers of the USSR army.

This is what I mean - Germany was totally deprived, left without means of subsistence and should not only "not get up off its knees", but in general never recover ... But already in the second half of the 60s of the 20th century, through 15 years after the state described above, the German economy has become the leader of the European economy!
And someone has now decided that economic terrorism, with a free market, can somehow greatly affect Germany ?! Smiley))
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European countries are getting deeper in debt as the energy crisis worsens. For example Germany is going to set a record high debt of $539 billion according to bloomberg
Since you don't live in Europe, you can chill and relax.
By the way I want to remind you that Germany had an unbeliveable hyperinflation. It was so severe in 1920 that a waiter would stand up on a table every 30 minutes to call out the new prices. And imagine, in one century Germany, after the ww1 and ww2, managed to become forth largest economy in the world. Don't underestimate Germany and German people.

- Regarding winter: even nature stood up against the country of the terrorist: the strongest cold cyclone covered Russia, while a warm cyclone is moving to Europe. this despite the fact that the winter is already warm, now the temperature in the EU is expected to rise to 10 degrees Celsius
Haha yeah, this winter has been the mildest since I remember and a real punch in the face to all those gloating how we all gonna freeze to death or have to buy wood stoves and burn our own furniture in order to survive lol.
Yes, this winter was great! The max temperature was -12°C in my area. The average temperature during the three cold weeks was -7°C, after that it become pretty warm and in the new year's eve it was pretty warm outside. It's pretty warm since that day, up to 10°C.

legendary
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Not surprisingly, the TERRORISTIC war against a PEACEFUL state is supported by representatives of countries, to put it mildly, from countries with not the most adequate regime. Moreover, Ukraine has never harmed these stars in any way. But this is an excellent example of the psychology of a criminal - the criminal is trying to justify others similar to his crimes in order to calm and inspire the sbeeb himself that in fact it is not he who is the criminal, it is the whole world against him. But if this is done against his country, the squeals will be universal. Moreover, the criminal will not have any dissonance - it is the norm for him to commit a crime, but to bear a DESERVED punishment is a crime Smiley

I am sure that after the defeat of the country of terrorizing Russia, they will pay attention to the rest of his accomplices and help them become "more peaceful"
It is not appropriate to use language that promotes violence or denigrates entire countries or groups of people. It is important to approach conflicts and political issues with respect and empathy, and to avoid language that dehumanizes or demonizes others. It is also important to consider multiple perspectives and to avoid making assumptions or jumping to conclusions based on limited information. While there may be many factors at play in a conflict, it is important to seek out accurate and unbiased information, and to consider the complexity of the situation.

I would encourage you to engage in constructive dialogue and to seek out solutions that promote peace and understanding, rather than promoting further conflict and animosity.

Stop stop. Let's be honest if it's about the rules. I said only about REGIME and CRIMINALS.
Now, if I wrote in this post - all the inhabitants of Russia are terrorists, and the countries (and gave a list of countries and peoples) - their accomplices and also terrorists, I would be wrong, I completely agree here!

Tell me - the shooting of peaceful cities, with the murder of civilians, in residential buildings - in your opinion, what is it politically correct to call it? To me, this is a CRIME. The crime of the ruling regime, the STATE with power, which leads the armed forces that directly carry out these terrorist attacks.

If I'm wrong somewhere, or lied - I'm ready to apologize and correct the text!
But give an example where I "promote violence" (responsibility in court, and punishment for crimes - is it propaganda of violence?) Or where I denigrate entire countries or entire peoples?

"hasty conclusions based on limited information" - are you serious? I live in Kyiv, my friends are in Dnipro. In November, a shock wave hit my windows from the explosion of rockets that exploded a few kilometers from my house, and the park in front of my house was littered with fragments! Yesterday in the city of Dnipro, my friends personally filmed a rocket hitting a RESIDENTIAL building! I was in Bucha and Irpin immediately after their release, I can show you photos that the media will never show. And I can show a video with the phone of Russian soldiers. Believe me - this is worse than any horror movie, they did it in reality, how wildly they mocked the inhabitants of these cities and filmed it on video, in the hope that no one would ever know about it, and the West would continue to "express concern" !!!

I served in the Territorial Defense of Kyiv, and I saw it all with my own eyes!
legendary
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~snip~
Basically Russia got sanctions and all during the early days but people were not ready to handle energy crisis right away, so it took us all this time, nearly a whole year to make sure that we do not need them anymore.

But from energy to wheat to everything else, whatever Ukraine is still selling, everyone is buying it, and then turn around and pay them some more to help fight off Russia. So that means energy crisis could be a real issue, prices could be, and economy could be not so awesome right now, but at least the war against Russia, the "big bad evil" of the world (you may disagree, that's just the narrative now) is being beaten and they find it worth it.
newbie
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Reduce natural gas and propane usage with the stuff I put in my other post. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/us-safety-agency-eyes-ban-on-gas-stoves-as-health-concerns-mount-5434488
I forgot to mention that it should not to be used on clothes dryers.
hero member
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The way EU is trying to solve this is almost the same way my country is also trying to solve to issues with our local currency.

My country is just not so long ago redesigned our local currency in the hopes of those holding the old note outside the bank to bring them back to bank and hopefully the currency would become more valuable.
hero member
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Not surprisingly, the TERRORISTIC war against a PEACEFUL state is supported by representatives of countries, to put it mildly, from countries with not the most adequate regime. Moreover, Ukraine has never harmed these stars in any way. But this is an excellent example of the psychology of a criminal - the criminal is trying to justify others similar to his crimes in order to calm and inspire the sbeeb himself that in fact it is not he who is the criminal, it is the whole world against him. But if this is done against his country, the squeals will be universal. Moreover, the criminal will not have any dissonance - it is the norm for him to commit a crime, but to bear a DESERVED punishment is a crime Smiley

I am sure that after the defeat of the country of terrorizing Russia, they will pay attention to the rest of his accomplices and help them become "more peaceful"
It is not appropriate to use language that promotes violence or denigrates entire countries or groups of people. It is important to approach conflicts and political issues with respect and empathy, and to avoid language that dehumanizes or demonizes others. It is also important to consider multiple perspectives and to avoid making assumptions or jumping to conclusions based on limited information. While there may be many factors at play in a conflict, it is important to seek out accurate and unbiased information, and to consider the complexity of the situation.

I would encourage you to engage in constructive dialogue and to seek out solutions that promote peace and understanding, rather than promoting further conflict and animosity.
sr. member
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This is not some ancient history we're talking about, it's all recent. They recently went on a money printing spree during the pandemic and the consequences of it are being felt today in form of economic crisis. Euro, Dollar, Pound, etc all got dumped because of it and yet to solve the energy crisis they decided to print even more money and inject it into the industry to artificially lower the price for a short time; the reduction is not even that significant and we already know the consequences of market manipulation like this!
Yeah true; those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The recent monetary policies adopted by central banks in response to the COVID-19 pandemic have led to concerns about inflation and currency devaluation. The injection of large amounts of money into the economy through quantitative easing measures can lead to artificially low interest rates and market manipulation.

The impact of these policies on currency values and energy prices is complex and multifaceted. It's important for policymakers to consider the long-term consequences of their actions and strive to find sustainable solutions that address the root causes of economic challenges, rather than relying on short-term, artificially induced fixes.
legendary
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#whataboutism
EU has its problems, but I find it kinda ironic to hear all that coming from someone who lives in a theocracy that has one of the highest number of executions in the world (2nd only to China),
That's not even close to being true. lol
I looked at some of the lists you are referring to. The fact that all of them put the US colony known as Saudi Arabia (that cut the heads off at least 73 people in the past month alone) way below Iran with somewhere around 20 executions per year disqualifies the said lists altogether.
Interestingly enough when you follow their references you eventually find your way to a Western mouth pieces like the London based terrorist organization called "Iran International" that are making up stats which are off-topic here so I won't get into details.

where women get beaten to death for not covering their heads properly.
Have you even been to Iran or are you just parroting what the Western mainstream media tells you? Grin
legendary
Activity: 3752
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Not surprisingly, the TERRORISTIC war against a PEACEFUL state is supported by representatives of countries, to put it mildly, from countries with not the most adequate regime. Moreover, Ukraine has never harmed these stars in any way. But this is an excellent example of the psychology of a criminal - the criminal is trying to justify others similar to his crimes in order to calm and inspire the sbeeb himself that in fact it is not he who is the criminal, it is the whole world against him. But if this is done against his country, the squeals will be universal. Moreover, the criminal will not have any dissonance - it is the norm for him to commit a crime, but to bear a DESERVED punishment is a crime Smiley

I am sure that after the defeat of the country of terrorizing Russia, they will pay attention to the rest of his accomplices and help them become "more peaceful"
legendary
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That's true, they'll shoot you to death on the streets without any courts or best case scenario you will just disappear in total media blackout and anybody talking about it will be brutally silenced even if you are a pregnant lady "down under" who liked a post on Twitter and they beat the silence into her. Or you'd be beaten and maimed in streets to become a symbol with one eye wearing "yellow" that is illegal to post on social media. Wink
EU has its problems, but I find it kinda ironic to hear all that coming from someone who lives in a theocracy that has one of the highest number of executions in the world (2nd only to China), with much lower freedom of press and where women get beaten to death for not covering their heads properly. It would be like Americans criticizing Europe for having too many mass shootings, or me as Croatian criticizing Finland for having too much of corruption.

Anyway, no point discussing with you due your hatred towards anything "western"  so see you in other topics.
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