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Topic: Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting and Roulette - page 4. (Read 2201 times)

legendary
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And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.
Even if they are not licensed, they still need to take some procautions to protect their business. Imagine if some players create multi accounts to abuse one of their bonuses. How can they prove all those accounts belong to the same person if they can't force him to verify his identity?
For the moment the only thing they did wrong is their claim on the announcement thread which contradicts what's stated in their ToS. They need to fix this but I won't go as far as accusing them of planning to scam just because of it.
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I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

Well, the casino has the right to do anything they want, that's how casinos works, they sate the rules and if the users aren't agree to those rules, then they can leave the site.

The problem about provide KYC to a not regulated site is: If the site have a hack and your data gets leaked, then there is a not a real company to blame or to sue. That's why isn't recommended to provide your data to sites that we don't trust.

By the way, a big -1 for the thread tittle, that no KYC is a lie.
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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.
It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the thread. They will request for KYC whenever they feel like under the pretext of "suspicious activity". Well, that's what most casinos do anyway. They won't request for KYC when you sign up and make deposits, but the moment you win huge and try to withdraw, KYC will be requested.

Here you go;
You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)
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But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

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To be honest, this is not the first casino that claim they don't ask for kyc but when you read their ToS you find out that this is not true! I won't say they are trying to deceive their customers but they definitely need to be more precise and clear about such matters. Like saying: kyc is not mandatory but we reserve the right to ask you to verify your identity at any moment if needed.
Personally I have no problem with kyc if it's done to comply with laws. But I've a problem with casinos using it for the wrong purposes like scamming players or delaying payments when they run out of funds..

And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.
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To be honest, this is not the first casino that claim they don't ask for kyc but when you read their ToS you find out that this is not true! I won't say they are trying to deceive their customers but they definitely need to be more precise and clear about such matters. Like saying: kyc is not mandatory but we reserve the right to ask you to verify your identity at any moment if needed.
Personally I have no problem with kyc if it's done to comply with laws. But I've a problem with casinos using it for the wrong purposes like scamming players or delaying payments when they run out of funds..
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Nowadays you can always assume that every random site will ask for KYC at some point. I don't believe in sites that say they don't. Or you must have an older site that has lived up to that. What I think is a very bad thing is that the subject of the ANN states that no KYC is requested, but that they then mention in the general terms and conditions that a KYC can be requested. Then you have to be more open and honest with the forum and (potential) customers. In my view, this is misleading what the site is doing now. I would therefore change the subject to bring back credibility.

they should rectify the title thread as based on their terms they can require kyc if they deem necessary. or maybe, state that no kyc for certain period of time while they are starting in this business. but in case of huge winnings, more then likely they will ask the player to submit kyc. what is the likelihood that such situation will happen? remember, they can easily allege the player that the funds come from unauthorized entities, if they say so.
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Nowadays you can always assume that every random site will ask for KYC at some point. I don't believe in sites that say they don't. Or you must have an older site that has lived up to that. What I think is a very bad thing is that the subject of the ANN states that no KYC is requested, but that they then mention in the general terms and conditions that a KYC can be requested. Then you have to be more open and honest with the forum and (potential) customers. In my view, this is misleading what the site is doing now. I would therefore change the subject to bring back credibility.
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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.
It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the thread. They will request for KYC whenever they feel like under the pretext of "suspicious activity". Well, that's what most casinos do anyway. They won't request for KYC when you sign up and make deposits, but the moment you win huge and try to withdraw, KYC will be requested.

Here you go;
You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)



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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.
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hey , welcome Euphoriabet.io , I checked that at some point there is an issue about delay in withdrawal but instant in deposit , maybe better to work at this because gamblers in this market specially in this forum hates delay when it comes to withdrawing because we are depositing with confidence .
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Well all this when it comes to a casino that does not require KYC, it is well known that it attracts attention at once, but something must be taken into account, if you reserve the right to request KYC, what are those criteria apart from the ones you say? Suppose I get to play and win $7k-$10k, would they require KYC? Or what criteria would they take? because I know that a figure from then on for some casinos is considered somewhat high. It is very unpleasant and it has happened to me that when I go to make a withdrawal in casinos that are relatively new, well there are always "buts" so that is something that nobody likes.



we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.

Well, I agree. There is no guarantee that a licensed casino cannot scam. However, when it comes to KYC and my personal information, I would never give them to some unregulated site without even a license or a legal backing. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site, which means there is no legal regulation requiring KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data. There is no way to tell what they are doing with it, it could be sold on the black market or used for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they are not governed by any laws, they are free to do as they please.

Well these things are very varied in the ways of thinking, it is true, you can participate in a casino with everything regulated and licensed, but in the same way they can scam, if they ask for KYC or not it is obvious that they can do it, on the other hand I am also a participant that leaving a KYC anywhere is not reliable, I am sure that the data can be leaked at any time, I think that this is already a problem or a risk that we all must assume, in casinos that are authentic and require KYC I think that when asking for KYC you have to piggyback them and trust a little, because it is impossible at this point to be in a casino and not ask for KYC.
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.

Well, I agree. There is no guarantee that a licensed casino cannot scam. However, when it comes to KYC and my personal information, I would never give them to some unregulated site without even a license or a legal backing. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site, which means there is no legal regulation requiring KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data. There is no way to tell what they are doing with it, it could be sold on the black market or used for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they are not governed by any laws, they are free to do as they please.
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.
legendary
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
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Yes you are right that mate let's give them enough time to prove that they are not asking More KYC in terms of depositing and withdrawal from their customers.  But as I observe maybe this casino telling the truth but its better to be more vigilant and secure so for me if I play here I use a small amount but after that if they are good in managing then theres a chance that ill put such good an out of bet.

What's there to prove? Their Terms of Service clearly state that they require KYC from their customers, so there is no need to prove anything.

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




In my opinion, there are only two possibilities here: They are lying about "NO KYC" in the title of this topic, or their Terms of service and AML policy aren't true. So in any case, they are lying and/or misleading potential customers.
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.
but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

Yes you are right that mate let's give them enough time to prove that they are not asking More KYC in terms of depositing and withdrawal from their customers.  But as I observe maybe this casino telling the truth but its better to be more vigilant and secure so for me if I play here I use a small amount but after that if they are good in managing then theres a chance that ill put such good an out of bet.
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hey , welcome Euphoriabet.io , I checked that at some point there is an issue about delay in withdrawal but instant in deposit , maybe better to work at this because gamblers in this market specially in this forum hates delay when it comes to withdrawing because we are depositing with confidence .
anyway Hope to see you here long time like most of my favorite casino sites.
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

If they consider getting a license then there is a very big possibility that it will change, namely KYC, KYC is no longer done if there is something suspicious about the player but will become mandatory here, which is why many casinos that have long been implementing KYC following the rules of the license, but it is undeniable that being licensed will make this gambling website legit and serious
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.
but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

I also think the same, perhaps here in the forum many jump on a company to tell them that they are doing things wrong, that they are fraudulent, that it will not work, that scares potential companies, causing less movement in the forum, if anything What brings prosperity to the forum are the new companies, it provides employment and fun to everyone, especially the players who are very active, so it is not the time to start debating, if there are some who have already made deposits and if they have had an uncle experience is nothing more than sharing it, everything now is good to do with tests, perhaps things here are handled very quickly and sometimes it is not appropriate.
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The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

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Even if an online casino is licensed and fully regulated, gamblers have a variety of personal and also objective reasons for not wanting to submit KYC information. But, in your case, this goes to another level.

Your casino is completely unregulated, meaning it doesn't offer any security for its customers. It's not even a real company, but instead a website running an unlicensed and an illegal gambling operation. You can't expect people not to be skeptical of your intentions if you aren't licensed and if your site isn't even registered under any kind of company or business name. You can't expect people to want to provide personal information in this kind of situation. The best way forward is for you to get licensed and regulated as soon as possible, but until that happens, it may be best if no one has any kind of relationship with you. Just my two cents on the matter.
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