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Quote from: euphoriabet on September 28, 2022, 06:14:45 AM

we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

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Quote from: Daltonik on September 27, 2022, 07:51:32 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on September 26, 2022, 04:32:36 PM

The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious. Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

we no have license

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Quote from: serjent05 on September 26, 2022, 04:32:36 PM

The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious. Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 22, 2022, 04:19:13 PM

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.

but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

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Am hopping to see the ops one day coming up with a good comment that will settle all the drama that has been going on in this thread right from the first page till now, one thing I have noticed about the old is that he is not actively involved in the discussion that is going on in on this thread.

But the truth is, the casino may witness low patronage if the admin is not actively involved in this discussion going on in thos threads and trying to work on the feedback from members here.

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Quote from: rodskee on September 25, 2022, 11:03:08 PM

Quote from: Yogee on September 25, 2022, 06:12:11 PM

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

maybe He missed those points or does not understand how Thread Title need to be placed?

I am afraid that he will ever change this Unless we let Him realized that it is need to be edited .

Hehe I don't know if you're just playing dumb or just blind. Maybe you should go back to the previous pages and read the comments. It's impossible that he missed them or misunderstood the meaning when the community's message was as clear as day. He is most likely deliberately ignoring them.

Quote from: coin-investor on September 25, 2022, 06:41:17 PM

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anyway it's their choice not to address this issue and it's our choice not to pick this casino.

Exactly.

I didn't even bother checking their site because of the OP's stubbornness.

Quote from: serjent05 on September 26, 2022, 04:32:36 PM

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The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure. You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you? It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO. KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

Hehe I would agree with you that it's not misleading when they use this "Euphoriabet.io NO KYC - MAYBE - Crypto Esports Betting and Roulette".

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Quote from: Webetcoins on September 26, 2022, 01:36:58 PM

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

This was already mentioned in this thread. I strongly recommended you read their terms of service.

Quote from: logfiles on September 22, 2022, 04:19:13 PM

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)

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Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

Again they say they don't require a KYC but if they are planning to require it then they need to register their company first in a legal way and obtain a gambling license before they can do those things. Unlicensed sites that asks for a kyc is illegal and should be reported to the authorities if ever we have seen one.

Yes, exactly, which is why I'm pointing it out. An anonymous entity operating an illegal, unlicensed online casino have the legal right to ask KYC information from anyone.

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Quote from: serjent05 on September 26, 2022, 04:32:36 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 26, 2022, 02:17:56 PM

Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure. You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you? It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO. KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

OP clarify this already and yes, they cannot put every as the highlights and it’s our task to read the terms of service and if it’s not on then we always have the option either to continue or no at all. I believe some site also have this, they didn’t ask for KYC at first but if they saw irregularities they might start to you KYC from you which is the normal protocol to protect the site.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 26, 2022, 02:17:56 PM

Quote from: Webetcoins on September 26, 2022, 01:36:58 PM

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure. You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you? It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO. KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious. Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on September 26, 2022, 01:36:58 PM

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

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Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?

But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

Again they say they don't require a KYC but if they are planning to require it then they need to register their company first in a legal way and obtain a gambling license before they can do those things. Unlicensed sites that asks for a kyc is illegal and should be reported to the authorities if ever we have seen one.

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Quote from: Yogee on September 25, 2022, 06:12:11 PM

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

maybe He missed those points or does not understand how Thread Title need to be placed?

I am afraid that he will ever change this Unless we let Him realized that it is need to be edited .

there are several sites that tries to claim this "NO KYC" policy but in the end? they understand changing the title and their claims.

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Quote from: euphoriabet on September 23, 2022, 09:21:43 AM

We accept all countries

Thanks for the answer. That calms me down a lot. Too bad my other questions didn't get answered, but it's okay. Maybe they don't want to reveal anything about it yet. I can understand that.

But unfortunately, the one that needs an answer is the NO KYC when in fact in their TOS they stated that under some circumstances like when you won a big amount and you are suspected to be using multiple accounts players will undergo KYC, it's already an industry rule and many casinos do not promote themselves as a no KYC when they have this policy under those circumstances.

I checked on OP's account and saw that he logs in today but made a post about the deposit issue, anyway it's their choice not to address this issue and it's our choice not to pick this casino.

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I've read the title and quickly got into it because of the claim of no kyc then read the first page and saw the image post of logfles.
It seems that many casinos are doing this, when at first, they'll tell their customers that they don't have kyc but one has to read the entire T&C for clarifications which isn't new anymore as majority of the casinos really asks for kyc.

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Quote from: Daltonik on September 24, 2022, 10:51:43 AM

Quote from: GameMaker on September 24, 2022, 06:14:05 AM

This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

Well, if what you are talking about is really true, then what you have discovered can be considered a critical vulnerability, which of course is the most sensitive for the existence of casinos and if they treat security issues in this way, it is better to stay away, you never know what other bugs there are on the carpet.

Security is too important because we are risking our funds here. It will be best if they will do something about this matter right away. We all know that a casino site with security issues could easily have a ruined reputation. If they want to build a strong foundation of trust, they have to work on it.

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.

I think that it is necessary to proceed with great caution in this matter of KYC, I do not guarantee that someone does KYC in a recent casino, because in addition to the owner of the casino being anonymous and the casino itself is also anonymous and no one can guarantee that the owner of the casino will not take documents from people and sell on the black market, for that reason people need to be careful with new casinos, besides we are using cryptocurrencies, so KYC should be requested in cases where only suspicious activity was detected, but in this part New casinos have taken advantage of having in the TOS this part where it says they can ask for KYC in case there is any suspicious activity and since they don't even disclose the results of investigations, they created a way for the casino to withhold people's funds whenever they want

Quote from: Yogee on September 25, 2022, 06:12:11 PM

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

I'm also wondering why he hasn't changed the thread title yet

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It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 25, 2022, 12:29:05 PM

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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

You can say it is unfair if they have no terms related to KYC but if there is a term related to KYC, it is completely fair.
As what said by Little Mouse above, it is common thing in casinos where players are asked for KYC for huge win especially if the win come with low wagering activity.
If you say it in general perspective regardless the existing of the terms, means that you want to say that all casinos are unfair. Is it what you wanna say?

Honestly, it makes no sense to ask for KYC if the fund is coming from a win. It is obviously not money laundering because as I said the huge money comes from the casino, why is it subject to KYC for Anti-Money Laundering? It is more likely the casino is finding fault to not handle out the huge win to the player.

Btw, we are all just speculating here, there is no known issue that this Casino is doing such kinds of things, so let us not get biased here and brand all new casinos as one big scam company. If we do not trust the casino, let's not just play on it.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 25, 2022, 12:21:53 PM

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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.

Currently, the number of online casino sites are not less. New sites are constantly being created. There are several things a gambler needs to keep in mind when signing up for a new site. KYC is an important thing which is not safe to do on any sites. Moreover, there is no guarantee that such Casino account will not be closed after winning a large jackpot. But if there is such a confusion then it is better to do KYC if it is worth gambling otherwise it is better to avoid it.

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Quote from: decodx on September 25, 2022, 12:52:27 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on September 24, 2022, 05:33:41 PM

Quote from: decodx on September 24, 2022, 02:26:04 PM

Quote from: euphoriabet on September 24, 2022, 01:49:45 PM

About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

I totally agree with you, now the question is which should gamblers really trust to pay their winnings without problems between a licensed casino and the unlicensed one?

Licensed casinos require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this, many gamblers don't like, but their chances of turning scam is low.
Meanwhile on the other hand, unlicensed casinos do not require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this almost all gamblers love, but the chances of this type of casino turn scam in the future is lightly higher compared to the first one I mention.
Which would people really prefer?

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Quote from: decodx on September 25, 2022, 12:52:27 PM

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

Yeah, true indeed but this is also true that KYC isn't mandatory there either. They only require KYC if they find anything suspicious or if they are forced through legal entities. As I said, this is common practice in online casino industry. There are very few casinos which don't require KYC at all. Macaw casino is one them which I'm aware of. Can't remember if there are more too.

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