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October 10, 2016, 09:11:28 PM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.

That's really hard to say until you see the draw in the knock out stages.  What if Bayern Munich drew Barca or Real in the KO stages or the quarter finals?  Luck plays a very big factor in the CL because it's a tournament format.  And the draw at every stage makes it feel kinda like a lottery.
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October 10, 2016, 01:42:16 PM
I think this year the Germans will take a shot at taking the Champions League trophy home and I believe either Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund will manage to win it. The English teams don't fare well in UEFA competitions and the Spanish teams have too many trophies already so I think it's due time for the Germans to win some now  Grin
it is time for the Champions League trophy back to the country of Italy. and the trophy this year will be earned by Juventus. by looking at the squad and the game they deserve to get a Champions League title this year.
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October 10, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
I'm not at all agree with you. I think this year again, we will see a Spanish team win the Champions League but maybe the last. For me the best odd is that for Atlético Madrid or eventually Dortmund can create the surprise this year.
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October 10, 2016, 01:02:31 PM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.

How about Atletico Madrid. I think they can win this year the champions. They have shown a really good football and they play against some of the heavy weight champions like Barca and Real in their domestic league. For sure for an odd of 13 I would give it a try.

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October 10, 2016, 12:52:26 PM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results

Juventus @12 is a very good bet! Barcelona is overrated @4 I don't think they will win Champions League this year. To me Bayern Munich is the best candidate even if Juventus is really tempting me.
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October 10, 2016, 12:13:54 PM
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if manchester united difficult finish in top 4, it would be very difficult to become champions of Europa League. in fact, you can see two games of manchester united in the Europa league. The first game, they lose. then when they played at home against very weak teams seem difficult to score and could only win by one goal. here seen the problem of manchester united very heavy.

There is no correlation between if MU difficult to finish top 4 on EPL with their chance to win Europa League. Both are different competition, if Mou feel that they cant finish on top 4 then he should be realistic to focus on how to win Europa League. Or if Mou is not interested to win the Europa League then he can more focus on EPL.
Still to early to say that they have small chance on both competitions. Lets see what Mou can do for his team. Even though I doubt they can improve faster but I'm sure the time will come for MU.
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October 10, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
what you say may be true, but with a few notes, manchester united had to finish in big 4 and qualify for the Champions League. if Manchester United are in the middle of the board or even lower, and this season does not get any trophy. I think there is no second chance for next season.

In fact they dont need to be in the top 4 to get into the champions league. They could just be winning the europa league therefore they could get into the champions league as well next season. Which is why mourinho should be realistic when he spits out that he is focusing premier league more then europa league

With the expensive squad they have atm, both (top 4 in EPL and win Europa League) should be an easy thing to do but in fact they are strugling so hard for it. It is understandable if Mou choose to focus on EPL because there is 4 chances to qualify to Champions League next year while on other side there is only 1 chance for them in Europa League.

if manchester united difficult finish in top 4, it would be very difficult to become champions of Europa League. in fact, you can see two games of manchester united in the Europa league. The first game, they lose. then when they played at home against very weak teams seem difficult to score and could only win by one goal. here seen the problem of manchester united very heavy.

Manchester United just needs time until all players know each other better. Ibrahimovic and Pogba came only this year in Old Trafford and a bit of time is always needed to familiarize yourself with the new team no matter how good you are as football player.

I think once Manchester United solves this issue it will be one of the strongest team to beat in England Premiership and Europa league. I can bet since now on Manchester United to be champions of Europa League as I am sure until that time all the players should be very well linked to each other.
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October 10, 2016, 12:02:21 PM
what you say may be true, but with a few notes, manchester united had to finish in big 4 and qualify for the Champions League. if Manchester United are in the middle of the board or even lower, and this season does not get any trophy. I think there is no second chance for next season.

In fact they dont need to be in the top 4 to get into the champions league. They could just be winning the europa league therefore they could get into the champions league as well next season. Which is why mourinho should be realistic when he spits out that he is focusing premier league more then europa league

With the expensive squad they have atm, both (top 4 in EPL and win Europa League) should be an easy thing to do but in fact they are strugling so hard for it. It is understandable if Mou choose to focus on EPL because there is 4 chances to qualify to Champions League next year while on other side there is only 1 chance for them in Europa League.

if manchester united difficult finish in top 4, it would be very difficult to become champions of Europa League. in fact, you can see two games of manchester united in the Europa league. The first game, they lose. then when they played at home against very weak teams seem difficult to score and could only win by one goal. here seen the problem of manchester united very heavy.
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October 10, 2016, 11:17:44 AM
I think this year the Germans will take a shot at taking the Champions League trophy home and I believe either Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund will manage to win it. The English teams don't fare well in UEFA competitions and the Spanish teams have too many trophies already so I think it's due time for the Germans to win some now  Grin

Dortmund are currently a really, really top side, they definitely have a good chance. Bayern could do it again especially with Ancelotti there now. His speciality is winning the CL.

I think you could be right, these things tend to go in cycles & the Spanish teams have dominated for a while now.
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October 10, 2016, 10:48:58 AM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
i think spanish teams will no longer dominate champion league this season and i do have felt that champion league trophy will belong for Germany team but maybe for Bayern Munich not Dortmund however champion league is very different than local league because too many unpredictable match results
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October 10, 2016, 01:22:34 AM
he was a clever manager when he managed fc porto and won a champions league with them , also when he was in 2005 managing chelsea to win english premier league after 50 years waiting , the first person who make a revolution in chelsea.

I'd admit that he was a great coach when he was still managing porto and chelsea but that era is now over. Back then he relies more about strategy rather than players however it sees he relies more on individual right now rather than taking steps to change his strategy to get a much better result
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October 09, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
if you think so , you can take a look to chelsea which have been experimented by jose mourinho , first season not too bad second season won the league third season make chelsea reaching the worst history for finished on 10th.

things have changed and mourinho should take a break for a while managing club he can try managing portugal international team, and then i wish he can back to chelsea Cheesy
Yeah got into 10th position after won the competition in previous season is the worst history in Premier League, and actually they didnt deserve that with their squad at that time. Mourinho should realize that most managers in Premier League have known his strategy.
he is so arrogant , but behind that he is clever too. just about unlucky he get kicked from stamford bridge , too much losing poin after given an opportunity up to 20 matches.

so i guess mourinho will not get any trophy this season with manchester united, not local league nor europa league.
I don't know what you talking about Grin is he clever or not? or maybe he just a normal manager, he is not as special as we thought before the season started. I think we are expecting too much from him, even bringing the best manager will not guarantee a trophy,  every teams is chasing and there only one winner. Mourinho always take all the responsibility and the blame to himself. No matter what the ending Manchester United get, I think most of the fans will still respect him as a legend.
he was a clever manager when he managed fc porto and won a champions league with them , also when he was in 2005 managing chelsea to win english premier league after 50 years waiting , the first person who make a revolution in chelsea.

but now he act too anti-mainstream , everything that people say he always disagree , hurting people with his words and make performance of himself dropped too.
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October 09, 2016, 03:43:35 PM
I think this year the Germans will take a shot at taking the Champions League trophy home and I believe either Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund will manage to win it. The English teams don't fare well in UEFA competitions and the Spanish teams have too many trophies already so I think it's due time for the Germans to win some now  Grin
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October 09, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.

It's so difficult to predict who will win the Champions League. It's a different team every season since the 1989 & 1990 when Milan won 2 years in a row.

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October 09, 2016, 12:17:28 PM
Who win Champions League (updated)

Barcelona @4
Bayern [email protected]
Real Madrid @6.5
Manchester City @11
Juventus @12
Atl Madrid @13
Borussia Dortmund @13
PSG @25
Arsenal @25
Napoli @40
Leicester @40
Tottenham @40
Seville @50

My favorite this year is Bayern but the quote of Manchester city at @11 is very tempting.
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October 08, 2016, 06:27:39 PM
if you think so , you can take a look to chelsea which have been experimented by jose mourinho , first season not too bad second season won the league third season make chelsea reaching the worst history for finished on 10th.

things have changed and mourinho should take a break for a while managing club he can try managing portugal international team, and then i wish he can back to chelsea Cheesy
Yeah got into 10th position after won the competition in previous season is the worst history in Premier League, and actually they didnt deserve that with their squad at that time. Mourinho should realize that most managers in Premier League have known his strategy.
he is so arrogant , but behind that he is clever too. just about unlucky he get kicked from stamford bridge , too much losing poin after given an opportunity up to 20 matches.

so i guess mourinho will not get any trophy this season with manchester united, not local league nor europa league.
I don't know what you talking about Grin is he clever or not? or maybe he just a normal manager, he is not as special as we thought before the season started. I think we are expecting too much from him, even bringing the best manager will not guarantee a trophy,  every teams is chasing and there only one winner. Mourinho always take all the responsibility and the blame to himself. No matter what the ending Manchester United get, I think most of the fans will still respect him as a legend.
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October 08, 2016, 05:43:05 PM
if you think so , you can take a look to chelsea which have been experimented by jose mourinho , first season not too bad second season won the league third season make chelsea reaching the worst history for finished on 10th.

things have changed and mourinho should take a break for a while managing club he can try managing portugal international team, and then i wish he can back to chelsea Cheesy
Yeah got into 10th position after won the competition in previous season is the worst history in Premier League, and actually they didnt deserve that with their squad at that time. Mourinho should realize that most managers in Premier League have known his strategy.
he is so arrogant , but behind that he is clever too. just about unlucky he get kicked from stamford bridge , too much losing poin after given an opportunity up to 20 matches.

so i guess mourinho will not get any trophy this season with manchester united, not local league nor europa league.
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October 08, 2016, 08:04:46 AM
I'm very confident that despite the poor results this season Mourinho remained high at Manchester United next season
It has become a tradition for Mourinho became manager two seasons and in last season giving trophies.
if he want to avoid sacked then Manchester United should be got europe league trophy or at least FA cup trophy this season because if the highest achievement from him only reach top 4 that is not enough for fans and i'm pretty sure Mourinho won't last long in manchester United but i also wondering if he failed in this team which teams will he choose next season
The league still run we can't judge if mourinho would failed in manage manchester united at least we could see after winter break season if manchester united still playing poorly and stay under top 10 of course he will get sacked soon as possible.
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October 08, 2016, 07:06:43 AM
I'm very confident that despite the poor results this season Mourinho remained high at Manchester United next season
It has become a tradition for Mourinho became manager two seasons and in last season giving trophies.
if he want to avoid sacked then Manchester United should be got europe league trophy or at least FA cup trophy this season because if the highest achievement from him only reach top 4 that is not enough for fans and i'm pretty sure Mourinho won't last long in manchester United but i also wondering if he failed in this team which teams will he choose next season
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