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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 05, 2016, 10:08:04 PM

if you think so , you can take a look to chelsea which have been experimented by jose mourinho , first season not too bad second season won the league third season make chelsea reaching the worst history for finished on 10th.

things have changed and mourinho should take a break for a while managing club he can try managing portugal international team, and then i wish he can back to chelsea Cheesy

Yeah got into 10th position after won the competition in previous season is the worst history in Premier League, and actually they didnt deserve that with their squad at that time. Mourinho should realize that most managers in Premier League have known his strategy.

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But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

I don't think he said anything of that sort unless I'm mistaken. Before the beginning of the season Mourinho has explicitly said he wants to win at United. Be it the Europa League, FA Cup, the League Cup or the EPL, he expressed his desire to win it all at United. So maybe Mourinho said something like it but it doesn't mean he shares the same idea for United.

i never hear about mourinho make a statement like that too recently or when he still on chelsea. he is the best manager when make porto win champions league, inter milan win champions league and real madrid.

but these days mourinho seems have losing passion in winning something.

i could say the same that was other mourinho this was seem little off the field or game like he is searching for something or trying something else
somehow i think that his goal is maybe for this season to find good team for next one maybe im wrong but i got that impression so far

if you think so , you can take a look to chelsea which have been experimented by jose mourinho , first season not too bad second season won the league third season make chelsea reaching the worst history for finished on 10th.

things have changed and mourinho should take a break for a while managing club he can try managing portugal international team, and then i wish he can back to chelsea Cheesy

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2016, 09:02:36 PM

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Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

I don't think he said anything of that sort unless I'm mistaken. Before the beginning of the season Mourinho has explicitly said he wants to win at United. Be it the Europa League, FA Cup, the League Cup or the EPL, he expressed his desire to win it all at United. So maybe Mourinho said something like it but it doesn't mean he shares the same idea for United.

Now that i see their recent performances, it is not quite different compared to last season when van gaal is still their coach and also with the massive amount for signing pogba they should be much better. With their recent performance, it will be very hard for them to compete in the europa league and win it

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 04, 2016, 09:13:00 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2016, 09:02:36 PM

Quote from: erwin45hacked on October 03, 2016, 01:17:37 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 03, 2016, 12:39:33 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

I don't think he said anything of that sort unless I'm mistaken. Before the beginning of the season Mourinho has explicitly said he wants to win at United. Be it the Europa League, FA Cup, the League Cup or the EPL, he expressed his desire to win it all at United. So maybe Mourinho said something like it but it doesn't mean he shares the same idea for United.

i never hear about mourinho make a statement like that too recently or when he still on chelsea. he is the best manager when make porto win champions league, inter milan win champions league and real madrid.

but these days mourinho seems have losing passion in winning something.

i could say the same that was other mourinho this was seem little off the field or game like he is searching for something or trying something else
somehow i think that his goal is maybe for this season to find good team for next one maybe im wrong but i got that impression so far

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2016, 09:02:36 PM

Quote from: erwin45hacked on October 03, 2016, 01:17:37 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 03, 2016, 12:39:33 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

I don't think he said anything of that sort unless I'm mistaken. Before the beginning of the season Mourinho has explicitly said he wants to win at United. Be it the Europa League, FA Cup, the League Cup or the EPL, he expressed his desire to win it all at United. So maybe Mourinho said something like it but it doesn't mean he shares the same idea for United.

i never hear about mourinho make a statement like that too recently or when he still on chelsea. he is the best manager when make porto win champions league, inter milan win champions league and real madrid.

but these days mourinho seems have losing passion in winning something.

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Quote from: erwin45hacked on October 03, 2016, 01:17:37 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 03, 2016, 12:39:33 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

I don't think he said anything of that sort unless I'm mistaken. Before the beginning of the season Mourinho has explicitly said he wants to win at United. Be it the Europa League, FA Cup, the League Cup or the EPL, he expressed his desire to win it all at United. So maybe Mourinho said something like it but it doesn't mean he shares the same idea for United.

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Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 03, 2016, 12:39:33 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

It is just silly of him to said that, he is just showing his stupidity to the world as usual. Even if he focused on premier league alone he wont be able to achieve that, atleast not with that bad performance. He needs to focus on europa league as well as the consolation trophy incase he cant ein the premier league trophy

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/1784298/jose-mourinho-admits-europa-league-is-not-where-manchester-united-want-to-be-but-they-want-to-win-it/

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Red Devils boss admits he will continue to rest men in Europe but is adamant he will respect the competition

He says he is determined to win it but the truth is that he doesn't care about it and will continue to rest more players for the Premier League games where he is letting go of the top 5 position. Now after that draw with Stoke I am 100% sure Europa League is put on the back burner.

Also here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3786184/Jose-Mourinho-says-Premier-League-clubs-struggle-Champions-League.html

All in all UEFA is not important for English clubs.

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Quote from: Wendigo on October 03, 2016, 12:15:57 AM

But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

Really? He said that? Can you please post where you got the quote from because as far as I know all European clubs want to win UEFA championships because that means more money for the club. And as far as United is concerned their squad is deep and they have the quality to win the Europa League and the EPL. But as what the reason is for their under-performance is anybody's guess. They have no excuse to be doing this bad, both manager and players.

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But Manchester United have problems in the Premier League and not performing as expected despite spending all this money for new expensive players. Also Mourinho himself has said that English teams don't care much about UEFA championships because Premier League is their main target every year. And I think the United board won't be happy if United are out of the Champions League again next year due to lower ranking in the local championship.

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Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

Damn too, I bet MU -3.5, because the opponent is a weak team. IF RM or Barca replace MU, the result would be 4-0 5-0 6-0

Wow dude, you are really brave have that bet, Man United -3.5. Well, we can't compared Man United with Barcelona and Real Madrid though. I think Man United not serious about Europa League.

It would be a dumb decision for Mou if he will let this Europa League away. It is a way for them to be on CL next year aside being top 4 on Premier League. In fact they also still struggling in EPL. It is good to focus on one competition only, but how if they failed on local league while they out of Europa League. They should be able to focus on how to play their best on both competitions. At least if they failed on one competition then they still have another way to play on CL.

Yeah it would be a bad decision to not try winning the Europa league considering they a have a squad deep enough to win all competitions they are in this year. And I don't think Mourinho is not serious about the Europa League as that guy wants to win all the time. It's not in his bones to back down and he always finds ways to winning. To prove my point, watch United spend on transfers this winter. Cheesy

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Quote from: dinda22 on September 30, 2016, 02:01:51 PM

I think everyone who bet on Manchester United expect a lot of goals against a team that looks weak.
Manchester united I think really short of expectations, even though their current squad is very expensive. but early in the season is very much disappointing. I doubt manchester united this season can get a trophy, they will end up looking Trophy this season if they continue to get disappointing results with the less-good game.

Yeah I'm doubt Man United will qualify to knockout phase if they still playing like this. I really thought that Man United would win Europa League easily with their expensive squad, but now they are even struggling in group stage.

Mourinho as the new manager admit that the Europa League is breaking his focus to manage MU. Means that he is not so serious in this league, perhaps he only want to focus on Premier League to bring MU back to big four. Mou still need more few years to show his ability to manage a team. A year is not enough for any coaches to prove that he deserves the position.

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Quote from: dinda22 on September 30, 2016, 02:01:51 PM

I think everyone who bet on Manchester United expect a lot of goals against a team that looks weak.
Manchester united I think really short of expectations, even though their current squad is very expensive. but early in the season is very much disappointing. I doubt manchester united this season can get a trophy, they will end up looking Trophy this season if they continue to get disappointing results with the less-good game.

Yeah I'm doubt Man United will qualify to knockout phase if they still playing like this. I really thought that Man United would win Europa League easily with their expensive squad, but now they are even struggling in group stage.

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Quote from: rio3233 on September 29, 2016, 08:01:15 PM

Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

i have lose all my bets for United, i see the over 1,5 are only 1.06 odds, and i have bet in parlay over 2,5 and over 3,5 (with odds 1.5 and 1.9), i have won all other game in parlay but lose for united Grin

like every time, i bet to all italian team win, and lose another time

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Quote from: rio3233 on September 29, 2016, 08:01:15 PM

Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

I don't know what to say about Manchester united. They have a lot if super stat, they have a lot of expensive player.
They dominated the game and they play like they will win 5-0. But the score just 1-0.
They have to take this Europa league seriously. If they want to play in champions league next season, it's a big chance. Just remember that Arsenal, Manchester City, Chelsea now played really good in Premier League. The big 4 must be so hard.

I was expecting the same as well, it should be atleast 3 goals with a cleansheet coming from them especially that they have beaten leicester city last week with 4-0 in the first half and I expected them to do the same against this team as well however it was only 1-0 , that was a dissapointed result

I think everyone who bet on Manchester United expect a lot of goals against a team that looks weak.
Manchester united I think really short of expectations, even though their current squad is very expensive. but early in the season is very much disappointing. I doubt manchester united this season can get a trophy, they will end up looking Trophy this season if they continue to get disappointing results with the less-good game.

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Quote from: rio3233 on September 29, 2016, 08:01:15 PM

Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

I don't know what to say about Manchester united. They have a lot if super stat, they have a lot of expensive player.
They dominated the game and they play like they will win 5-0. But the score just 1-0.
They have to take this Europa league seriously. If they want to play in champions league next season, it's a big chance. Just remember that Arsenal, Manchester City, Chelsea now played really good in Premier League. The big 4 must be so hard.

I was expecting the same as well, it should be atleast 3 goals with a cleansheet coming from them especially that they have beaten leicester city last week with 4-0 in the first half and I expected them to do the same against this team as well however it was only 1-0 , that was a dissapointed result

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Quote from: rio3233 on September 29, 2016, 08:01:15 PM

Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

Damn too, I bet MU -3.5, because the opponent is a weak team. IF RM or Barca replace MU, the result would be 4-0 5-0 6-0

Wow dude, you are really brave have that bet, Man United -3.5. Well, we can't compared Man United with Barcelona and Real Madrid though. I think Man United not serious about Europa League.

It would be a dumb decision for Mou if he will let this Europa League away. It is a way for them to be on CL next year aside being top 4 on Premier League. In fact they also still struggling in EPL. It is good to focus on one competition only, but how if they failed on local league while they out of Europa League. They should be able to focus on how to play their best on both competitions. At least if they failed on one competition then they still have another way to play on CL.

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Quote from: rio3233 on September 29, 2016, 08:01:15 PM

Damn Manchester United, dominated the match so hard but only can make 1 goal. It's really sucks and cost me so bad. It's seems Man United is not serious on Europa League, god damned it.

I don't know what to say about Manchester united. They have a lot if super stat, they have a lot of expensive player.
They dominated the game and they play like they will win 5-0. But the score just 1-0.
They have to take this Europa league seriously. If they want to play in champions league next season, it's a big chance. Just remember that Arsenal, Manchester City, Chelsea now played really good in Premier League. The big 4 must be so hard.

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Quote from: Wendigo on September 30, 2016, 05:52:52 AM

Honestly I don't know what to think about Manchester United any more. On paper and in theory they have very expensive footballers and obviously skilled enough to wear that price tag (duh Grin

) and Mourinho is one of the best managers in the world ( or he was?!) but still United struggle every single match be it in the Premier League or UEFA competitions. I am beginning to think that Mourinho has to do a complete overhaul of the team and bring in new players. The current form of the team is not impressive at all and I should say it has more of a comic effect than any respect for the name of the club whatsoever Shocked

it could be assumed that Manchester United will not play clearance. They are not interested in Europa League, and seems to me like they were trying on other tactics options.
Plus, Zorya has play 80% of time with all players on his half ground.

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