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Seems that things aren't changing and Croatia remains to be main favorite to win. Wouldn't be against it, but personally I like Italy most, though, their chances doesn't looks big.
What I really don't want that one of freaks like Switzerland or Ireland would win.

Quote from: alani123 on May 10, 2024, 07:19:11 AM

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

Our commentator who was working at arena said that there was huge mix between clapping and booing there that it was difficult to understand which kind of reactions we have more. And when I watched it on TV you barely was able to hear much. But it's understandable reaction from EBU if they already allowed Israel to participate.

Quote from: Rikafip on May 11, 2024, 08:50:14 AM

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show. Tongue

Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

As I understand this version was already denied, so, it's interesting what actually he did.

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Quote from: boltz on May 11, 2024, 09:26:30 AM

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

It's always been political. They have just set vague rules on which political statements are allowed so they can say it's apolitical.

Rigged it has been since jury got to much weight to their votes and now it's nearly impossible to win, if jury happens to hate the song.
Most of the televotes have always been about support from neighbouring countries, sympathy votes for victims or votes used as political statements. I don't think it ever was just about the music.
Talent, melodies, performances are always subjective and matter of opinion. And lots of people would vote for their own countries if they could. And they definitely have been voting countries they have relatives in as for support. And now whole world can vote. So televoting is more interesting, at least if they go country by country and not just "here's votes from rest of the world"

Many songs from last year were really good bangers imho, so political voting didn't matter to me at all in qualitywise.

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Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 11, 2024, 08:50:14 AM

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaignm to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show. Tongue

Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

On the one hand, if you treat it solely as a song contest, I don't see why you shouldn't vote for Israel, provided that you liked their song, so me calling out Israel for participating is biased because I'm having the politics aspect in mind. On the other hand, I feel like Israel doesn't have a place in Eurovision, especially after the war in the Middle East. I feel like it's humiliating towards the thousands of deaths of innocent people from both sides. With all this happening, is a European song contest your priority?

I'm not sure if my way of thinking is wrong; usually there's no right or wrong opinion in such cases, but I understand why people are upset with them; they're just venting it through Eurovision.

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Quote from: o48o on May 10, 2024, 12:29:22 PM

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaign to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

Quote from: Ultegra134 on May 10, 2024, 03:30:28 PM

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show. Tongue

Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 10, 2024, 07:19:11 AM

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries. Why is Israel even participating? It has no place in a European contest, especially after the genocide they're conducting against Palestine, and they have the nerve to act like nothing is happening and participate in a song contest. It must be one of their top priorities.

I'm not sure about yesterday's semifinals, but I saw a video during rehearsals where the singer was being booed at and even claimed that Eurovision was masking it so they weren't heard when broadcasting.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 10, 2024, 03:16:16 AM

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? Wink

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. Cheesy

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

And that accidental leak of Italy's televoting, which, if accurate, says a lot:
And this was supposed to be apolitical, which gets weirder all the time. Imagine Israel winning this? Would anyone go into that event, if next one would be hosted in Israel. Imagine the level of terrorism threat there.

I am still wishing for Finland as i placed my bets long time ago

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Quote from: alani123 on May 10, 2024, 07:19:11 AM

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.
Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that?

Yeah something dodgy is going on with televoting as I honestly doubt that Italians would vote in such a high percentage even for their own song (if they could do it), let alone for Israeli. Having said that, I also doubt that leaked results were honest mistake either.

Quote from: alani123 on May 10, 2024, 07:19:11 AM

t's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle...

Afaik you can vote from a single number 20 times max, so that means they would have to buy bunch of sim cards. Even though, I see no reason why its even allowed to vote more than once from a single number as this way it just makes it easier to manipulate voting but then again, maybe that's exactly why its made that way. Wink

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 10, 2024, 03:16:16 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 09, 2024, 01:46:05 PM

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? Wink

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. Cheesy

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 10, 2024, 03:32:07 AM

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Cheesy

Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year Cheesy

We have places big enough for shows like that so we won't have to build it but you are right about wasting millions in case we win, as organising stuff like that cost shit load of money even without having to build a venue.

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 10, 2024, 03:32:07 AM

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago.

I was successfully avoiding Eurovision contests for years (mainly because my music taste is completely different from what you hear there) until I got married. I managed to avoid semifinals but unfortunately no way to skip final. Grin

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 10, 2024, 03:32:07 AM

If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Cheesy

Naked ass windows 95 Cheesy

I agree, its a fucking freakshow and I can't believe how obsessed people in Croatia are about it at the moment. I secretly wish for us not to win just so I can see all those people crying over something as unsignificant and political as Eurovision song contest is.

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Quote from: Rikafip on May 10, 2024, 03:16:16 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 09, 2024, 01:46:05 PM

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? Wink

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. Cheesy

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Cheesy

Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year Cheesy

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago. If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Cheesy

Naked ass windows 95 Cheesy

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 09, 2024, 01:46:05 PM

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? Wink

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. Cheesy

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

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I love the stage setup, much better then I remember prior contests. The Czechia song is ok, could even be a pop hit but I'd label it too close to average algorithmic type of tune. I'd love it in the car driving along to it, good bass and rhythm, lyrical; some music is best heard while distracted. Going on previous winners this is not the feature tune winner of the contest overall imo.

Best I can do for it is 7 out of 10 and obviously Im looking for a 10, in quality, uniqueness or just because I personally like it and I do like Pedestal by Aiko but its not going to be enough for the big win is my first guess if being honest.

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To be honest, I haven't watched the Eurovision song contest for years, I didn't know you could even bet on it. I randomly opened the TV and encountered the last few songs for the semifinal contest. There are a few good songs, such as Belgium's, Czechia's or Croatia's.

Quote from: alani123 on May 09, 2024, 02:28:14 PM

I am watching the second semi final now and every song so far is very good. Talented artists and good songs. Marina of Greece kinda fucked up on some parts but hopefully people are still going to vote for us. Czechia is unexpectedly good I am surprised they weren't higher in the odds. Albania also. So far 5 songs in I'll be sad if one of these doesn't make it to the final.

We haven't had a decent song in years, and this year isn't any different. This is probably one of the most kitsch songs I've ever listened to. I don't understand why there's such a huge hype about it.

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I am watching the second semi final now and every song so far is very good. Talented artists and good songs. Marina of Greece kinda fucked up on some parts but hopefully people are still going to vote for us. Czechia is unexpectedly good I am surprised they weren't higher in the odds. Albania also. So far 5 songs in I'll be sad if one of these doesn't make it to the final.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 09, 2024, 01:46:05 PM

Also, it will be interesting to watch how audience will react to Israel performance.

I think they already performed(I am not really sure), I mean I saw there are videos(from two different perspectives) going around TikTok where people are booing their performance and chanting "free Palestine". I also saw several news outlets create an article about it(I didn't read the articles though, just the headline).

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First semifinal for there was a bit too much freaks and not that much music. But I'm satisfied with results and also that my country got into final too.
Have no favorites for second semifinal and struggled to decide what bets to make. So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65. Also, it will be interesting to watch how audience will react to Israel performance.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 06, 2024, 04:59:25 PM

So this Tuesday (which is today or tomorrow depending on your time zone) is the first demi final. I'll make a prediction on who passed to the final just for fun. I know some bookies have bets in that too but don't take me too seriously Grin

Let's see.
Cyprus, Ireland, Ukraine, Croatia, Finland, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Australia, Portugal, Lithuania

So many to choose from I had to decide some at random. What do you think.

Well Finland is in final, which i bet on with 19 multiplier, and 151 multiplier that it wins. I am already happy and rest is just free ride from here. Too bad that they only accepted low bet from me.

(Edit: now that I think about it. I might have bet it as a semifinal nr1 place, that would explain that high multiplier, and lost. Yep, i am an idiot. Well, anyway...)

I sincerely still think it's almost obvious that they win, but maybe i am biased and delusional. And of course there's a change they could make some sort of political demonstration in the end and get disqualified. But it's not like i would be in loss anymore, so that's fine with me. Some of these participants already wore palestanian keffiyeh scarf which is a statement but maybe too suddle for the rules to kick in. But in the words of windowsman95: "no rules"

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So this Tuesday (which is today or tomorrow depending on your time zone) is the first demi final. I'll make a prediction on who passed to the final just for fun. I know some bookies have bets in that too but don't take me too seriously Grin

Let's see.
Cyprus, Ireland, Ukraine, Croatia, Finland, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Australia, Portugal, Lithuania

So many to choose from I had to decide some at random. What do you think.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 27, 2024, 05:59:24 PM

Quote from: STT on April 27, 2024, 04:37:21 PM

The cheat sheet for who wins will be similar to the oscars, look for the theme. We have a few wars ongoing at present etc. so a peace theme might easily gain a global consensus which will secure the majority of votes over just a normal song that is ok in a pop way. I reckon this is how it will go down this year especially with so many possibilities, they'll want some unite type themed song.

I think the Oscars are even more biased than the Eurovision song contest. Oscars are even more biased and ideologically seclined.

Oscars are made by the so called academy and they pick nearly exclusively American film. At least with the Eurovision people can be heard in the vote and the result isn't so much about showcasing a nationally superior image above everyone else as American films do so one sided in their world view.

I am not so sure about that. Depends what you mean by being "more biased and ideologically seclined". Both of them try to stay apolitical, but i am pretty sure an oscar winner won't be discualifed if someone wears palestinian flag colors as a form of support, or a maga hat while picking the prize. Also politcs are impossible to avoid in movies.

Eurovision on the other hand wouldn't accept anything that sort behavior from the bands. And by applying strict restrictions political statements or slogans aren't allowed, they are actually setting rules on which political issues are allowed, as everything is politics.

I guess their reasoning is to avoid people using that as their propaganda tool. But it's really vague what they mean by political statement. Is not eating meat, or eating meat one of them? Or what kind of relationships people are allowed to have? Imho it's just based on judges feelings on the subject. What they like, and what they don't like to see. Just like in Oscars.

Anyway, it's starting soon. I wish i could bet on how many protests there are going to be.

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