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Quote from: decodx on March 23, 2024, 03:58:04 PM

The Eurovision contest is heating up as we get closer to the big event. Croatia has been the frontrunner for a few weeks now.

Ukraine is putting up a good fight for the top though. They are currently sitting in second place, but the gap between them and Croatia seems to be growing bit by bit. The bookies handicapping the contest think Croatia has it just about locked up at this point - they are offering really favorable odds, like 3-4 to 1 for them to win it all and ukraine's odds of pulling off their fourth Eurovision victory are getting longer, now between 5-7 to 1.

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out! Croatia's entry is catchy but Ukraine has some powerful vocals on their side. Either one could end up the victor when the final votes are counted.

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

Odds for Croatia are very small indeed, so I wonder if bookmakers are not offering smaller odds than what it should be for this outcome actually. The song is good but it reminds "Cha cha cha" from Finland last year a little bit too much IMO. Anyway there are not so many banger songs this year, so he can benefit from that. To be honest I am only listening, from time to time though, 3 songs on Spotify personally : Poland, Denmark and Iceland.

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The Eurovision contest is heating up as we get closer to the big event. Croatia has been the frontrunner for a few weeks now.

Ukraine is putting up a good fight for the top though. They are currently sitting in second place, but the gap between them and Croatia seems to be growing bit by bit. The bookies handicapping the contest think Croatia has it just about locked up at this point - they are offering really favorable odds, like 3-4 to 1 for them to win it all and ukraine's odds of pulling off their fourth Eurovision victory are getting longer, now between 5-7 to 1.

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out! Croatia's entry is catchy but Ukraine has some powerful vocals on their side. Either one could end up the victor when the final votes are counted.

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

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I see Greece went up a few spots in the odds and that's quite interesting.

I'm certain by the reactions I'm seeing that Greece will secure a spot in the final. But I'm wondering if the positivity by eurovision fans in social media is something to rely upon for judging song performance in the contest. For sure many of these people that react to these videos are kind of influencers now because they gather a very big audience simply for sharing their opinion. So in terms of showcasing a song to the public it plays an important role. I'm not sure if those placing bets have been taking this into account. Because for instance even though Croatia's song is first in the odds and it's also a good song imo, it hasn't been receiving the same attention on social media that young people like posting like TikTok.

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Quote from: alani123 on March 10, 2024, 06:16:40 PM

Quote from: FatFork on March 10, 2024, 04:42:36 PM

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.

I see that this new song was released only a few hours ago on Eurovision's official YouTube account. It's interesting that Israel had an entire back up song and music video in production after their "October Rain" debacle. Also interesting how the European Broadcasting Union didn'g outright disqualify it and let them in with a different song.

As a song it's a more fitting song for Eurovision. But 17.00 is good enough based on how many Eurovision fans have come out against the contest based on the fact that Israel is participating. Certainly though on the opposite side of it there's gonna be people strategically maxing their votes in favor of Israel. I'd argue though that songs way down the list have better production. So it'll be interesting now to see if Israel moves further up or down the list after the change in songs.

Israel didn't have backup, they just changed the name and the lyrics. Now, according to the rules, it's not political anymore and they can use it. That is if the band doesn't pull any stunts on the middle of the act and won't get disqualifed after all. But i doubt band would do that. There's huge money involved if they would do well.

But i highly doubt they will do well. And i am seriously wondering why they have such high odds, even though they have done well in the past, many people are protesting it, and while you can't downvote them, i am guessing points will show in jury's decision as well with lack of voters from other countries.

If there would be one country that would be a direct protest vote against israel, i would bet on that. If it was possible, i would also bet on the possibility that they are getting booed live, i would actually bet lot's of my money on that. Eurovision brands itself as apolitical, but that doesn't mean people interacting with it will.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 10, 2024, 04:42:36 PM

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.

I see that this new song was released only a few hours ago on Eurovision's official YouTube account. It's interesting that Israel had an entire back up song and music video in production after their "October Rain" debacle. Also interesting how the European Broadcasting Union didn'g outright disqualify it and let them in with a different song.

As a song it's a more fitting song for Eurovision. But 17.00 is good enough based on how many Eurovision fans have come out against the contest based on the fact that Israel is participating. Certainly though on the opposite side of it there's gonna be people strategically maxing their votes in favor of Israel. I'd argue though that songs way down the list have better production. So it'll be interesting now to see if Israel moves further up or down the list after the change in songs.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 10, 2024, 02:43:20 PM

4 countries are missing for now though (Albania, Armenia, Georgia and Israel) and another one in the first semi-final (Azerbaijan).

You're right, there are still a few countries missing. Albania, Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan haven't revealed their entries yet.

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.

(https://youtu.be/lJYn09tuPw4)

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Quote from: alani123 on March 09, 2024, 06:57:46 PM

I see many eurovision fans discussing Greece's entry favorably on social media this year. Here's the music video for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSTnLWGUPs

Marina Satti always has overproduced dances on her music videos, and this one especially is very campy in portraying modern Greek cultural icons in a very kitsch fashion. As a song though, it's not that interesting to me. Aesthetically pleasing for sure but nothing life changing. Also the vocals at the start are quite weird. Dunno though, at least we'll probably get to the final. After last year's tragic entry it's a fresh song to send to Eurovision which I'm glad about for my country. Also in our native language, which would be nice to see perform well.

It's a good entry from Greece, the music, the song in Greek and the music video are quite original. I wonder if I will not send a vote for her during the sem-final(2nd) because she competes in the semi-final whose my country can vote. I like Denmark too in this semi-final so maybe I will vote for both entries at the end. 4 countries are missing for now though (Albania, Armenia, Georgia and Israel) and another one in the first semi-final (Azerbaijan).

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Quote from: o48o on March 09, 2024, 06:42:21 PM

Stake had just 66x multiplier, so that's gonna do fine. But i would like to see odds for other crypto casinos for comparison and i didn't find eurovision from others you listed, even with google. Maybe you can give direct links?

Yeah, Eurovision betting odds can be a bit tricky to find on some gambling platforms. Most casinos tend to focus more on traditional sports or esports.

Here's what you can try:

Check the "Specials" or "Entertainment" sections: Some crypto casinos might list Eurovision odds under these categories instead of traditional sports.

For example:

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https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/eurovision/international/eurovision-2024/eurovision-2024-65e1b11faafd2b00010c2f01
https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/specials/music/eurovision-song-contest
https://www.cloudbet.com/en/sports/entertainment/outrights

Optionally, explore similar URL paths: Some casinos share the same sportsbook provider or software, so you can try manually modifying the URL to see if it leads you to Eurovision odds.

For example:

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https://roobet.com/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18
https://fortunejack.com/crypto-sportsbook?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18
https://duckdice.io/sport?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18
https://betfury.io/sports/specials-18?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

Hopefully, this helps you find the best odds!

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I see many eurovision fans discussing Greece's entry favorably on social media this year. Here's the music video for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSTnLWGUPs

Marina Satti always has overproduced dances on her music videos, and this one especially is very campy in portraying modern Greek cultural icons in a very kitsch fashion. As a song though, it's not that interesting to me. Aesthetically pleasing for sure but nothing life changing. Also the vocals at the start are quite weird. Dunno though, at least we'll probably get to the final. After last year's tragic entry it's a fresh song to send to Eurovision which I'm glad about for my country. Also in our native language, which would be nice to see perform well.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 03, 2024, 04:02:26 PM

Quote from: Text on March 03, 2024, 08:04:18 AM

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

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https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

So is anyone going to vote those non-favourites? I just reclaimed my JUN airdrop, so i am cashing that and wagering it for Finland.
Finland had 67x multiplier in bc.game (biggest one i've seen), so i wanted to try there. But since i didn't recall if i had registered yet, i tried to search all my emails from "bd.game", and nothing came up.

So i made an account there, and while i looked around before depositing, i spinned that flashy wheel with those free JB tokens as a bet. There came a popup screen saying that i wasn't eligible for the prize as someone has already registered an account from my ip or my computer. Now i am afraid to use that site anymore, because it will probably look like double accounting on purpose.

Stake had just 66x multiplier, so that's gonna do fine. But i would like to see odds for other crypto casinos for comparison and i didn't find eurovision from others you listed, even with google. Maybe you can give direct links?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 08, 2024, 01:58:48 PM

Quote from: alani123 on March 03, 2024, 01:22:34 PM

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

Music from past looks better because it gives us nostalgy about our youth, childhod, bring back some good memories. Wouldn't say that nowadays music is bad, simply you shouldn't look at mainstream music. It applies to Eurovision too, this contest is mainly about genereic pop music. But every year we have at least we have at least few more sophisticated entries.
About Italy, seems that they simply can't send bad songs and it applies to their this year entry. And yeah, when Maneskin won few years ago, it let them to become one of the most popular bands in the world now.

You're both right, not every song from back in the day was a timeless work of art. There was a ton of corny pop back then too! Even the Beatles were written off as junk once upon a time when they first came out, yet now we see them as undisputed legends.

Nowadays there's no shortage of raw talent in music, if you're willing to dig below the mainstream hits. We just gotta put in the effort to explore different genres and find what suits our tastes - there truly is something for everyone. Same idea applies to Eurovision. Granted you'll always have some sugary throwaway tunes. But if you keep an open mind...

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Isreal were allowed to participate in Eurovision after they made changes in lyrics of song:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68505050
Despite it, their entry probably won't be less contraversial because of this.

Quote from: alani123 on March 03, 2024, 01:22:34 PM

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

Music from past looks better because it gives us nostalgy about our youth, childhod, bring back some good memories. Wouldn't say that nowadays music is bad, simply you shouldn't look at mainstream music. It applies to Eurovision too, this contest is mainly about genereic pop music. But every year we have at least we have at least few more sophisticated entries.
About Italy, seems that they simply can't send bad songs and it applies to their this year entry. And yeah, when Maneskin won few years ago, it let them to become one of the most popular bands in the world now.

Quote from: FatFork on March 03, 2024, 04:02:26 PM

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

Probably almost all bokmakers have it, after all, it's one of biggest events in Europe, only Olympics and football World Cup/Euro can compete with it.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 03, 2024, 04:02:26 PM

Quote from: Text on March 03, 2024, 08:04:18 AM

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

Code:

https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

Rollbit Casino has Eurovision Song Contest winner betting as well. Just sayin'. Wink

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites. Croatia seems to be the favorite among the bookies at the moment.

Croatia	3.75
Ukraine	4.4
Iceland	7.5
Italy	7.6
Belgium	12.8
Sweden	15.1
United Kingdom	17.6
France	17.6
Lithuania	19.1
Switzerland	20.1

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Quote from: Text on March 03, 2024, 08:04:18 AM

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

Code:

https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

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Quote from: alani123 on March 03, 2024, 01:22:34 PM

It's almost a pity Bashar Murad who was tipped to represent Iceland this year lost to this.
From what I understand his lyrics had nothing to do with politics, but the sheer fact that he's Palestinian was surely something in response to Israel still participating in the contest.
It's been such a long time since we saw some good action in Eurovision.

Yes I agree with you, it would definitely have been a better move to address this controversy with a palestinian singer than to boycott the event or to threat to do it. But if she won it's for some reasons. Many people of the Eurovision's audience are women of her generation or older actually, and many younger ones could have her shape. The lyrics of the song are universal and romantic but they are very feminine too. Her voice and the dancing music are nice. So I think she's very likely to get many votes if she participates.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on March 03, 2024, 11:57:27 AM

Iceland has revealed the song they will likely choose for the contest yesterday, that is to say the winner of their national contest Söngvakeppnin 2024, we still don't know if they will participate because they don't want to compete with Israel AFAIK, but I really like this song, I think it's my favorite this year, up to now. I hope they will decide to participate because they could reach the Top5 or maybe the Top3 quite easily with this entry IMO

Hera Björk - Scared of Heights

It's almost a pity Bashar Murad who was tipped to represent Iceland this year lost to this.
From what I understand his lyrics had nothing to do with politics, but the sheer fact that he's Palestinian was surely something in response to Israel still participating in the contest.
It's been such a long time since we saw some good action in Eurovision.

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 03, 2024, 08:38:42 AM

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

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Iceland has revealed the song they will likely choose for the contest yesterday, that is to say the winner of their national contest Söngvakeppnin 2024, we still don't know if they will participate because they don't want to compete with Israel AFAIK, but I really like this song, I think it's my favorite this year, up to now. I hope they will decide to participate because they could reach the Top5 or maybe the Top3 quite easily with this entry IMO

Hera Björk - Scared of Heights

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Quote from: o48o on March 03, 2024, 11:16:12 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 03, 2024, 08:38:42 AM

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

Yeah, i am disagreeing with you. Part about emotions that you described is highly subjective and beauty (or emotion) is always in the eye of beholder.Calling music or musicians lifeless or shells is telling more about the fact that listener doesn't connect with it. It however doesn't mean others wouldn't. I recently read an article (i can't remember where) where people listened to music, written by AI, and people who were told it was written by AI, described it soulless and empty, while people who weren't told about it, didn't seem to be feeling that way, and it raising various emotions in them. This doesn't mean you have to see soul in everything or like it, i just think it's a matter of perspective.

About that poilitical part: Eurovision tries to stay apolitical, as it could easily turn a platform from uniting nations to tool for dividing people. Everything is political in some way, but it doesn't mean this is the correct platform for dividing messages, which this rule is supposed to fight against. It's about unity and music.

Then, I suppose, whether or not that music piques someone's interest truly depends on their personal taste. I suppose it was just not my sort of music, and our perspectives are different. I believe that having a soul when producing music is crucial since it can significantly increase the emotional effect we can achieve and produce the desired piece. In other words, if you are soulless, your compositions would lack feeling and genuineness. The modern world is so advanced in terms of technology that even artificial intelligence can compose a song, and people go crazy for it. AI has the potential to make humans stupid. While it can benefit certain people greatly and improve our thinking, in the end we are just fooling ourselves and becoming less productive as a result of our dependence on high-tech devices.

There is no need for an argument, as I also believe that music unites people and helps us understand one another. Music also serves as a means of bringing people together and connecting us all to do things that can benefit our society.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 03, 2024, 08:38:42 AM

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

Yeah, i am disagreeing with you. Part about emotions that you described is highly subjective and beauty (or emotion) is always in the eye of beholder.Calling music or musicians lifeless or shells is telling more about the fact that listener doesn't connect with it. It however doesn't mean others wouldn't. I recently read an article (i can't remember where) where people listened to music, written by AI, and people who were told it was written by AI, described it soulless and empty, while people who weren't told about it, didn't seem to be feeling that way, and it raising various emotions in them. This doesn't mean you have to see soul in everything or like it, i just think it's a matter of perspective.

About that poilitical part: Eurovision tries to stay apolitical, as it could easily turn a platform from uniting nations to tool for dividing people. Everything is political in some way, but it doesn't mean this is the correct platform for dividing messages, which this rule is supposed to fight against. It's about unity and music.

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You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

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