Topic: Ever heard about financing a gambler? - page 2. (Read 3435 times)

There is also a point that we can indeed do a little research if indeed the person who wants to finance is one of our friends, as you said about we can see from the nature and behavior of our friends as long as we are friends and also during that time there will definitely be some situations where he has borrowed your money and whether he can pay on time or not before, so with that it is true that the way you said is quite reasonable and it can be taken into consideration before finally agreeing to finance his gambling.

I think not only cautious but if they have doubts in the agreement with their friend then I think it's better to avoid this deal, after all gambling is very dangerous because the randomness of the final result is always the main difficulty to get a win, in the matter of the amount of money I think this can be negotiated between the two parties, if indeed the one who wants to provide capital has doubts then obviously he will not agree to the large amount requested by his friend to gamble. However, it is better to put only the amount that we can be responsible for, whether you are gambling yourself or paying for someone else, it can be useful to minimize regret at the end of the session if you lose.

If he is our friend, we can see what his character is like as long as we are friends with him. From that character, we can get more or less an idea that can explain to us what the person is like. Often, the friends we consider friends are not what we imagined when it comes to money, and I'm sure many of us have experienced this, too. And if he asks to pay for his gambling, we should really consider it well and there is no need to feel bad for him because the money we have is not just for gambling or just for fun.

Maybe making an agreement or agreement between us and him will be the solution. But if it is related to gambling, we should be very careful because usually, the money they ask for is not a small amount of money. Rarely do people use small amounts of money to gamble so they want to be financed in medium or even large amounts. If we really agree to the deal, we also have to think about what if he loses because that means he won't be able to pay the debt. We have to think about how long he can pay his debts.

To finance gambling it is true that the first thing that must be considered and emphasized is the strong agreement of the agreement that has been made between the two parties, if indeed the agreement is that he will pay the money to you if in the end he loses then obviously as you said that we must be able to measure the extent to which he will be able to keep his promise, if indeed you do not really believe in the promises he said before and even make you doubt then obviously in my opinion it is better not to finance it, because it could only cause problems in the end. You might find it difficult to collect the debt because he might be one of those irresponsible people, even if he is one of your relatives.

Overall I think it's a ridiculous agreement between the two parties, as you said there is basically nothing promising in the outcome of gambling, it's hard to get certainty and maybe just a few indications that sometimes it's also difficult to materialize or often fail to achieve real victory. There is nothing great in gambling especially if you play on the type of gambling pure luck, so in my opinion you better think from the beginning, understand first thoroughly about the risks of gambling so that you don't regret it.

OP, I don't think that's ideal to finance anyone or group of person in gambling, gambling is a risk stuff, as a reasonable person, if people work up to you for business collaboration, first of all you will have to study the profit nature of such business, and also the risk involved, you can't just release money just like that unless you decided to dash them the money, op, I will speak for myself, your judgment is right, this guy that explained this incident to you is a victim, but in the aspect of some gambling better than you, I strongly have the feeling that gambling is a luck game but individuals can master some games and become successful in those game that's all I know.

It is clear that with gambling you must have strong self-control so that reckless actions do not occur, because reckless actions occur because of a lack of good self-control and a lack of strong self-control,  which can make a person addicted to gambling excessively Many people gamble on slots by relying on the RTP percentage, they gamble on slots by looking at the RTP percentage where they will see the game percentage to start gambling because they are sure of that, but I myself am not sure about that, and I gamble for fun like you,  so I don't really care about the RTP on each site. but there are also people who see and do the patterns and tricks provided by the site to get big wins and they also believe in certain hours which are good hours to place bets on slot gambling. It's true that everyone's thoughts are different and this is normal, but on the other hand, those who have enough money usually give a little money so they can go back to gambling even though this shouldn't be done. Even though this makes them happy, maybe they will come back asking for money to gamble again.

This is certainly not a good thing nor is it a solution for those who want to make a profit, because the big percentage of slot gambling games is defeat not victory, so that's why I myself if I have a lot of money will never give money to gamblers or finance gamblers, because it's the same as releasing cows in a wide pasture, they will be happy but don't remember us who gave them capital. Many people run out of money and take out loans to gamble again, unfortunately this happens a lot, and even though for example no one actually finances gamblers but those who are already addicted to gambling can take out loans to gamble again. people who are already addicted to gambling have a mindset to make money in various ways even though it is risky but they will still do it because the urge from addiction is difficult to resist and eliminate.

If there is an agreement between him and his friend or sibling, it will be a solution on how he should pay off his debt because he has asked his friend or sibling to finance his gambling. But this must also be researched to what extent he can delay paying his money if he loses when gambling because when gambling, a person can lose a lot of money.

But it is still risky because there is no guarantee that someone can win at gambling even if they feel they are good at gambling. However, if he can win, he can return the money to the people who have financed his gambling activities to provide trust between them. But people who are given the opportunity to finance their gambling activities must understand that there is no guarantee that someone can win from gambling.

Maybe it is better if someone does not finance other people's gambling activities, especially if it is not a close friend and even if it is a close friend, it is better if he can refuse it so that no problems arise between them. Often, friendships will be disrupted just because of a small amount of money. So we have to be careful when lending money to other people.

We always have to base ourselves on many steps before playing, first of All we have to be Clear that when we are in the presence of slots the best thing is that we have to have control over what we do, there is no other option, yes or there is Control there is no nothing nice, also if we are a person who analyzes the RTP it is a valid option so that we can do anything better, with a piece of information like this we know if we are more or less restricted when it comes to Making a significant increase in the bet, although for me a bet is a bet, and without taking any type of requirement to analyze the RTP, for me it is practically the most in risk and everything then things are like this when I analyze them, taking into account that there are some players who analyze all kinds of parameters to to be able to establish a gaming strategy immediately, personally I am not like that, what I do is relax and play the slots without looking to win, just having a good time.

When someone talks About the Financing of a Player it is because for me it must be a good player but limited in resources, specifically money, that is why they talk about being a player who can receive a type of help such as financing so that he can play and obviously have good results, in fact the person who makes a type of treatment like that has to have results, because if he loses everything, well, I imagine that's not the idea Either , so no Matter how much money the person who wants to Finance has, he knows what he should do. It's being careful when playing with other people's money, personally, I wouldn't do it, I don't like that , because it's like they Put a lot of bags of cement on my back, playing with other people's money and waiting for things to turn out. well it's something that doesn't suit me much , maybe in trading yes , but in the game where everything has to be given to luck and chance , well no , that's not Very good for me.

And if you are one of the people who are willing to finance it then I think you are a pretty careless person even though there are agreements and some promises that can be trusted especially in terms of refunds promised by the people you finance if you lose in the end. But on the other hand, if you understand all the possible risks or are able to account for everything at the end, then it's fine to experiment.

That's the thing, because there is absolutely no guarantee or certainty about the final outcome of winning and losing, the other thing is that I hope that anyone should know that the percentage of winning is much smaller than the possibility of much greater risk. You can see some examples of other people who have lost huge amounts of money due to being involved in gambling too often, and that's the reason why there are people who enter the addiction phase because they are too frequent and put too much hope in gambling. So maybe I will allow anyone to do that if it's just for experimenting and there is no seriousness to do it in the long run, because the risk is too great compared to the opportunity to earn.

The point is someone needs help in terms of financing his gambling activities, things that have arrangements between the person either a friend
or a relative who's asking for assistance, though still not a good idea even how good the gambler is.

Still at risk since the investment or the loan money will be used for gambling and there's no assurance that you can always win even how good
you are in terms of controlling yourself or managing your emotions and bankroll.

The outcome still unpredictable and if things didn't go well the money will disappear.

Another source of income may not be possible for an addicted gambler. The only process is to stop lending him some money. Because he'll be having some difficulty with paying the loan. In the context of Op's thread, I'd say that it's not safe for a person to finance a gambler, hoping for a big win. Even in Forex, the risk of such things will end up in regret. No need to ask for another person to take care of the expenses of a gambler while gambling. I think gamblers should focus more on the journey and don't involve people to help them with funds. If that happens the gambler won't have any reason to look for money elsewhere except his own money. Most people when entitled to their friend's money may be gambling recklessly, with the hope that they'll talk to their friend to give them some funds. Whatever, requires a third party in gambling is not comfortable with me, it's between the gambler and the house.

If a gambler's money finishes, he should stop gambling and focus on other things. But, in the brain of the gambler, it's not simple to see a gambler who stops after losing all his money. The addiction creates more opportunities in the player's brain, to look out for means of earning money. That's why a good number of gamblers do the wrong thing to gamble. Most times the avenue they explore is mainly illicit, endangering the life of the gambler and his family in the long run. Because once he can't pay his debts, the gambler's family may be compelled to clear it on behalf of the gambler. The process now gets harder for the gambler and his loved ones. Such gamblers who don't mind managing their funds, even when equipped with a good paying business or work, they'll lose out on it and crumple the business. It's quite a tough experience to see gambling as a way of earning money. The game may offer wins, but the thoughts can be damaging to the wealth of inexperienced gamblers.

Actually, not really because if we meet a friend who asks us to finance his gambling and we can advise him to find a job so he can have money to finance his gambling. After having money from his job, he does not ask other people to finance his gambling and he is free to use his salary to gamble and to meet his living needs.

It would be better for him because he would not face the risk of returning his money to the money lender. And he also won't have problems with other people and can gamble using his own money. Hopefully, you can understand what it means.

Yes,. it could be that he has experienced depression because he often loses rather than wins at gambling and it is true that because of these losses he will try to replace the money he lost by gambling continuously or excessively and that is what is called temptation in gambling if he does not immediately realize that he will experience a lot of defeat and many problems in his life.

Each person will have their own views in determining the gambling they will do. For example, by choosing poker gambling which you think is a game that suits your own criteria, that is, you are already equipped with playing skills, then there is a possibility that you will often get lucky there, and in my opinion that is a normal thing and you can also anticipate it. not to spend too much money there.

Indeed, when it comes to making money, it would definitely be better to look for a side job that doesn't involve the risk losing money. but the problem is that other people think that funding other gamblers they can make profit without spending much effort and this can be done as long as they choose right place.

I mean at that time I remember someone here talking about hiring professional gamblers who bet on skill based games and this was the right way to fund a professional gambler and bet on skill based games that not really have big risk like luck based games like slot and this what someone said in this thread and I really agree with this kind of understanding because it makes a lot of sense compared to having to fund gamblers who are not professionals and also bet on game that are luck based.

I support your argument about all that there no guarantee whatsoever but as professional gambler they will not offer to be funded but people come to fund it without forcing any party and professional gamblers usually dont always accept fund from anyone because they also have to ensure conditions mind and body so that betting in a focused manner does not disappoint those who fund it.

Your gambling investing approach intrigues me. I think poker is a more skillful investment. The combination of strategy, psychology, and luck creates a dynamic environment. Poker players seem more controlled and strategic. This may improve investment reliability. However, your suspicion of dice games may be rigid. These games are mostly luck-based, yet they capture the thrill of gambling: the unknown. Its amazing to watch dice players with great timing and risk assessment. All gambling, whether poker or dice, should be done with caution and understanding. Responsible gambling matters. Its about understanding the dangers, appreciating chance, and acknowledging skill, regardless of the game.

the situation becomes unfavorable for capital owners if it is like that. but of course, such events occur because the capital providers certainly have confidence in the skills of the gamblers they pay to play with their money.
When I see stories like that, I remember several films I have watched regarding offline gambling carried out in cruise ship casinos or other casino places. A rich man whose hobby was gambling found a gambler with excellent skills and persuaded him to play for the rich man.

I don't know whether this kind of thing is related or not at this time. but for me, it's better to play with the money we have ourselves. Whatever the risk, we bear it ourselves. there's no pressure of having to win, and it's fun.

This has been diverted to the topic already. It's not the content of the topic since "financing a gambler?" means like a professional work, like a gambler has the skills but doesn't have the capital in gambling, and with that, he'll be looking for financers and they'll have an agreemnet on how they'll split up the profit in case the gambler wins, but if it goes otherwise, the gambler will have not liability, or whatsoever.

That will be hard to do for a gambler who is on a losing streak. I bet he would probably just keep on going and try if his luck will come out after a few more bets rather than waving the white flag mid-game.
Temptations will always be there which is why I'd rather invest with poker players than those who play casino games where the gambling site's system is the one deciding if we will win or not.
With poker players, it's skill-based and some luck to decide who will win a hand. There are those who are also good at bluffing their opponents and can win rounds where they are possibly losing because of a weak hand.
I won't invest with dice players because those have a lower chance of being winners especially if their accounts are filled with a winning streak. A possible outcome after that will be a losing streak and he won't be able to climb back again after a lot of bets.

The risk would not be worth it if they wanted to finance someone in their gambling. That will only give them problems where, in gambling games, someone will not always be able to win. They will have the possibility of losing the gambling game and will be unable to return the money. They cannot expect to earn additional income from gambling, considering how difficult it is to win. And yes, gambling using your own money is better than borrowing money from other people or asking other people to finance your gambling.

Someone should look for alternative ways that can provide additional income than asking other people to finance their gambling. Using money from his salary and providing a sufficient portion to be deposited into his gambling account will not affect his financial position so he can gamble comfortably. And this will depend on how he can manage his finances when gambling. If he can manage it well, he will not encounter any difficulties and enjoy his gambling activities well.

I think there's absolutely no reason why someone would want to make gambling their main source of income, or even their main source of income. Because after all gambling only depends on your luck in every session you do, as you said and obviously then there is absolutely no way that can make them produce winnings just by relying on luck, I'm not saying that you won't win because obviously victory is definitely occasionally you can get, but the problem is if you make gambling your main place of income that means shouldn't you always be able to get a win? while on the other hand what if luck is far from you?

So of course I think it's more realistic in choosing something, use common sense to consider because after all gambling is only recommended for entertainment only, because the risks there are far greater than the chances of winning, and obviously it's true that it's better for them to find a job that is certain - certain, especially in terms of income. Starting an investment is a good suggestion if they have skills in that field or other things that they are certainly capable of doing.

It can happen in some situations. I have people who tried to give me money to invest, as they saw me making money. I declined as it would probably make me a bad investor, as i would change my methods when i would be responsible of someone elses money. Also i wouldn't want to provide info about every trade and tx fee for tax reports. It seems like a lot's of work. Combined with the burden of responsibility.

These people approached me because they didn't know anything about crypto or trading. They wanted someone else to do the work. Same happens when you don't know anything about sports or sports betting. But you see someone getting rich by it. They want in for the profits. This makes more sense to me as i understand trading and crypto but i don't understand sports betting as a deep level as crypto scene. If i saw someone making bucks with gambling, i would definitely want to fund it. Especially in Finland as gambling winnins when playing on "veikkaus" are tax free income.