Topic: Ever heard about financing a gambler? - page 7. (Read 3435 times)

I would like to add to this that a player who wants to win and pay off debts thinks this way when he is in a sad situation and losing. But if he is lucky and really wins a lot of money, then there is a very high probability that he will continue to play and not go to repay his debts. The funny thing for me is that he doesn’t know why he continues to play to win $1 billion? Ahah. I want to say that some people's brains turn off completely and the player should not have the casino take over his brain.

in this scenario you can already determine how you should do what is best for you and other people or your friends not to fund his gambling or lend him money because bad impacts can happen, for example you give loans to your friends too often even though your friends were not initially addicted. but because of the pressure of having to return your money and always losing he can become a gambling addict and indirectly you help him become a gambling addict and you will feel the loss yourself when he cannot return his money because of course an addict will never be able to manage his finances well so you have to accept that you will lose your money. so you will feel very painful seeing your friends become addicted and even lose money that cannot be returned.

in this case I will not blame you but remember money is a very hot item it can destroy everything just because of money and I fully support @Wapfika opinion if you can just fund a friend or other gambler as long as you have to see how good his skills are in gambling in this type of betting a skill based one like blackjack or poker and see if it has a job and if everything looks really good you can fund it with a small amount of money which will give you an advantage when you win because this type of game can be profitable as long as you have good skills.
so here I also fully support the opinion of @Wapfika

Without a doubt. Telegram is the home of many fraudsters, scammers, or whatever alike.
I do invest with gamblers but it's a close friend which means we grew up together. I won't just trust my money to someone whom I have no idea about because if he runs, that means my money is gone too.
That is why we should be careful about this kind of idea. There are lots of good gamblers out there but trustworthiness is not included in it. I do remember one guy who was supposed to run a trivia so a gambler provided the funds for the prizes. He did one trivia and then ran with the remaining money. The one who funded it was just shocked at what happened and all he could do was just rant about it. Well, there's really nothing he could've done.
My point is, that a gambler will still be a gambler and once he sees money that could be gambled even if it's not his/her, that person has a high chance to either run with it or gamble it more trying to double the money.
I don't say everyone is like that but it could happen and it's not surprising anymore.

In most cases you’re right but there’s always some exception to this since there’s already a skill based gambling that gives skilled gambler advantage on the game. I can provide a little financing to this cases but only money that I can afford to lose since this is like an investment due to the advantage due to skills.

However this will always be a case to case basis depending on the behavior and mental state of the said friend or family even though they have the skills.

I agree with you, it can destroy a relationship. It's like putting a carrot in front of a rabbit hole. where someone who has gambled usually they will be addicted to gambling and if we give money or lend them money it is the same as giving pleasure to themselves but there is no benefit for us because of the possibility of defeat that will be obtained, also people who are addicted to gambling are also unlikely to return the money that was loaned earlier, because usually people who are addicted to gambling when they have money they will not pay off their debts but will return to gambling in the hope of getting a big win that can pay off all their debts, and that is a stupid principle. because I have experienced it.

So in my opinion, don't try to finance gamblers because it won't work. most likely like that.

Yeah you true but he looks convincing tho hahahha but Im smart  and honestly, he said that he cannot make himself rich because the all his wallet is watched by his boss and he can do anything.

Beside gambling also there is person who said can make me rich by deposit some money and with like a week or so can double or even triple amount of money that i deposited

There are many fraudsters on Telegram who offer cooperation that will make us rich, if he can do that, why not just make himself rich himself, even though that makes more sense than him offering us to win in every game, that's It's a bit strange and I also often get DM messages like that but I always ignore them and then they will delete the messages as well as their account to remove traces of their crimes.

There is no one who is truly sincere on the internet offering big wins without asking us for money, everyone of course wants to get the benefits even if we only register as their referral, BTW, whatever it is, never respond to DMs related to that because usually they are just there to deceive beginners. Just in gambling because beginners are more easily tempted by offers like that. 

That's right it makes sense, paying someone else or even one of your friends or relatives to gamble will really cause a lot of problems, not just losing money if you lose but more than that, as you said that indirectly it will make your relationship with them experience problems. Yes that's right, I also often see cases like this happen, which in the end becomes a problem that shouldn't be a problem, basically you don't have to try it first to be able to realize that such actions are really not recommended, but like you said that we can see and make lessons from the experiences of others who have experienced such impacts.

I think that applies to all types of gambling, whether it's poker, sports or slots that are purely about luck. But unfortunately not everyone can think this way, they don't really pay attention to some of the potentials that can make them end up with bad things and a lot of problems, it's ridiculous if you sacrifice the relationship that you have built for a long time with them just because of gambling, so paying someone to gamble is really an act that is not recommended and should be avoided.

Under no circumstances should you give money to your friends or relatives, because this is the best reason to destroy your relationship with them forever. I have seen this happen in real life and I will say that it is better to be smarter and learn from other people's mistakes. The same applies to gambling or poker in particular. Even if you have a super brilliant friend who beats everyone, even in this case I would not sacrifice our relationship because of some money that we will spend on something unnecessary and forget about them altogether. Friendships often last a lifetime.

I think that only an aloha gambler or trader will agree to take money from other people for their activities. The fact is that the laws of proper trading state that you need to play or trade only with your own money. Especially for extra money, the loss of which will not affect the quality of life in any way.

And no greedy intentions should interfere with this law. Because if you borrow money from friends, and then lose it, then it's so sad to lose the most precious thing - family and friends.

It is a common practice for poker players to give away stakes in exchange for money, usually proportionally to the entry fee. I never really understood why someone would do that unless you can go to the venue and watch your poker player play the game, but I think that is usually possible when they reach the final table and an audience is allowed to observe the game. But other than that when it comes to gambling I would rather play myself and enjoy the game than giving my money away to someone else and hoping for a financial return only.

Yeah, unless you are willing to risk your money without enjoyment, that kind of promises where your money can grow because of the knowledge
gambler can offer, that's easy to say but in reality, it's hard to make it happen or better to say it's only limited to happen.

Just like you, it's much better to use your money and play it can bring enjoyment if you will not exceed with the amount that you can let go.

financing a gambler without any collateral is like giving away your hard-earned money, nothing to expect aside from luck which may
give that chance to be compensated.

By doing it ourselves, we don't need to worry except worrying about how much money we can use to gamble. That's not a good way because financing someone to gamble will only cause problems for us and them. The problem will become bigger if the people we finance are unable to return the money because they lost it. Unless someone goes to a loan shark to borrow money, that will be a different story because he will be the one who gets into trouble and not the loan shark. After all, a loan shark will definitely ask for his money, no matter what. The person who borrows the money will definitely encounter even bigger problems because he must be able to provide the money to pay the debt.

Exactly. Why finance a gambler if you can do it yourself? At least you can enjoy the game even you're not fortunate to win. Because in gambling, profits are not guaranteed. Therefore it's not a wise idea (if you value your money) to finance someone to play if the chances of gaining from gambling is just based on this player's luck. Anyway, if you decided to take risk by financing a gambler, might as well consider your money as a throw away so you won't be disappointed if worst case happened.

who cares about persuasion to definitely win in gambling games? maybe if it was a card game at an offline table, it could still happen. but still gambling is related to luck. never mind asking people and financing them to play for us. if we are not lucky, then we will not win. even if it is you or someone else playing for you.
maybe some games require skill. and it happens that you don't master the game. but you see a chance of winning, so you attract someone who is more familiar with the game to play for you. although we will never know how big our chances of winning and our luck are.

The reason why some persons finance a gambler sometimes is due to maybe he plays gamble and records winning most times then maybe he must have placed a bet and lost huge amount of money then someone who is aware that he wins a lot may just decide to give him funds in other to continue gambling with the belief that he's gonna win. Most times it doesn't turn out well as no matter how successful someone might claim they know gambling, there are also times they lose a lot but you won't know that, it's only when they win that they can let you know with the impression that you will see them as people that wins a lot.

Those gamblers that walks up to people in other to convince them that they're gonna win, if winning a bet is that easy I believe that person that walks up to you to convince you needs money as well and if they're so sure they would have taken a loan and stake the bet then after which they return the loan.

      -   That has happened to me, and it's my best friend, so it's okay, as long as what was discussed is that I will have a cut of 25% of the winnings that he will get. And he didn't win, so I don't have a cut of 25%.

That depends on whether they are close to you or if you trust them completely. Maybe what Op is thinking is that when he is granted the opportunity to finance it, he suddenly destroys what was discussed, and I think there are many people like that who are talking about a large amount of money.

In my country a lot of people are doing this but, most people who borrow are foreigners and it does not always have good results, some are being kidnaped and asked for money from families abroad, and they are hooked to casinos where they sell their houses and cars in my country and even though they see others being killed, they just continue with their vice.

I agree with you

In the other day, there was a person who made a thread about he loan big amount of money and he regretted gambling This is what happens when you get loan for fun and not something for some productive thing. and this statement is very true "by asking for a loan you are basically admitting you have no money"

That is very true because gambling with the money we can afford, we only lose the amount of money we can afford, and we will not break that limit. If we violate it, we will regret it because we have used more money than usual, and that will disrupt our financial position. You also don't need to look for other people to finance your gambling because that will only increase your difficulties even higher. Just imagine if we lose using the money we borrowed. We will definitely have difficulty returning the money. And if we have no income, it will be even more difficult because we will have absolutely nothing to pay back the borrowed money.