Everyone looses in the long run - page 41.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 25, 2016, 10:56:43 PM

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Quote from: geniusboy91 on October 24, 2016, 10:55:56 AM

Gambling site was built by the owner to give him the profit of money he has spent. Gambling isnt a charity foundation that give people free money anytime. Although there are some professional gamblers out there, the site owner surely will be always trying to beat all of them. Thats the fun side of gambling, where we could test our luck and skills combined against the house. Maybe you couldnt win everyday, but if you bet responsibly and patiently, you couldn't be disappointed so bad.

Well gambling is business of course owners will always want their gamblers to lose in the long run because they are going to get profit if their gamblers are going to lose. And I haven't heard someone that he is winning in the long run. Most of the time, gamblers are just losing in the run when they win that is just for a short time.

I heard that some are winning in gambling but that was just a story since I do not know their names, and yes we will lose in the long run and that is base on my experience as well as gambling sites are designed that way.

It's true but really hard to win in the long run for a simple gambler, it has always been a debate if there's really someone who can make money in the long run and most of the testimonies are it's not possible because we do not have the experience yet to prove it.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 25, 2016, 09:41:54 PM

Quote from: geniusboy91 on October 24, 2016, 10:55:56 AM

Gambling site was built by the owner to give him the profit of money he has spent. Gambling isnt a charity foundation that give people free money anytime. Although there are some professional gamblers out there, the site owner surely will be always trying to beat all of them. Thats the fun side of gambling, where we could test our luck and skills combined against the house. Maybe you couldnt win everyday, but if you bet responsibly and patiently, you couldn't be disappointed so bad.

Well gambling is business of course owners will always want their gamblers to lose in the long run because they are going to get profit if their gamblers are going to lose. And I haven't heard someone that he is winning in the long run. Most of the time, gamblers are just losing in the run when they win that is just for a short time.

I heard that some are winning in gambling but that was just a story since I do not know their names, and yes we will lose in the long run and that is base on my experience as well as gambling sites are designed that way.

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Quote from: geniusboy91 on October 24, 2016, 10:55:56 AM

Gambling site was built by the owner to give him the profit of money he has spent. Gambling isnt a charity foundation that give people free money anytime. Although there are some professional gamblers out there, the site owner surely will be always trying to beat all of them. Thats the fun side of gambling, where we could test our luck and skills combined against the house. Maybe you couldnt win everyday, but if you bet responsibly and patiently, you couldn't be disappointed so bad.

Well gambling is business of course owners will always want their gamblers to lose in the long run because they are going to get profit if their gamblers are going to lose. And I haven't heard someone that he is winning in the long run. Most of the time, gamblers are just losing in the run when they win that is just for a short time.

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Not only in the long run , even in a short period of time you can also lose if you do not know what you are doing. I can say that if you are very good in some gambling games and spend almost your life playing it you will be able to know when to stop, when to start to play again or when to call it a day. We lose in the long run because we keep doing the same thing over and over again,

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Quote from: bastw055 on October 24, 2016, 11:14:15 AM

actually not everyone lose their money in gambling..

in the long run if we can manage our gambling then of course will have more low chance to loss..

all back again,,how good we manage our money and the risk

Those people who doesn't able to control themselves for gambling are the ones who are able to lose their money in the long run. So for me, if you don't want to lose in the long run you must able to control yourself , your money and the most important is your emotion. Because if you had experience losing then that would lead you to rage.

Not only in the long run as that is too long to wait. When you do not have control in gambling even in a short period of time you will easily lose, regardless of the amount of money or bankroll you are using in gambling, I can assure you that you cannot follow the proper bankroll management and most of the time you will just go with your emotion that will be your recipe to disaster.

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actually not everyone lose their money in gambling..

in the long run if we can manage our gambling then of course will have more low chance to loss..

all back again,,how good we manage our money and the risk

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Gambling site was built by the owner to give him the profit of money he has spent. Gambling isnt a charity foundation that give people free money anytime. Although there are some professional gamblers out there, the site owner surely will be always trying to beat all of them. Thats the fun side of gambling, where we could test our luck and skills combined against the house. Maybe you couldnt win everyday, but if you bet responsibly and patiently, you couldn't be disappointed so bad.

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Quote from: x|8y8|x on October 23, 2016, 11:45:46 AM

but i think every one is not loosing in the long run, there are so many people who are making good money gambling, actually they have good experience in gambling.

Well they are only few, but the majority are losing in the long run so I would say that if we are going to convert that in ratio that can be 1% of total gamblers are earning great with gambling. So for me, if you don't want to enter in gambling and you don't want to lose a lot of money then better stop your gambling career.

Maybe I can testify that we are losing in the run is real, I am saying it based on my experience, all I get in gambling is just a temporary winnings, hence I have to be wiser now and instead of gambling for the sake of making money, I downgrade it to having fun only.

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but i think every one is not loosing in the long run, there are so many people who are making good money gambling, actually they have good experience in gambling.

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Quote from: MWesterweele on October 23, 2016, 10:21:11 AM

Quote from: rozee on October 15, 2016, 08:28:06 AM

yes this is my experience, i always get busted when i play on long run
although with some strategy i always lose, different with short run
i get some profits although its not huge amount

If you are always get busted when you are playing on long run then why don't you stop when you already hit the maximum profit of yours don't try very hard to make more profit when you can make safe profit and then withdrew it all.

it's because gambling so addictive , people aware already about how dangerous gambling it could break someone life but they still gambling , this is not a strange issue. the real problem why people mostly lost in the long run are due they didn't gamble using bankroll management , this is important.

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It is true that everyone loses in the long run because of what we called jouse edge. If you so the math, you will notice that all your initial funds will be just go on house edge because it deducted a percentage on your bets win/lose. So even if you win, you actually lose some portion of it. And if you continue betting for long period. You will just lose at the end. So it is better to roll high with fewer bets better than bet small amount with a large number of bets.

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Quote from: rozee on October 15, 2016, 08:28:06 AM

yes this is my experience, i always get busted when i play on long run
although with some strategy i always lose, different with short run
i get some profits although its not huge amount

If you are always get busted when you are playing on long run then why don't you stop when you already hit the maximum profit of yours don't try very hard to make more profit when you can make safe profit and then withdrew it all.

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If you flip a coin enough times it will come up tails sometime and you lose, but you only lose overall if you fail to keep back enough winnings. If you can play poker and improve your odds over just 50/50 then its not going to be true that everyone loses in the long run. Some people gain because they appreciate when to balance the risk vs reward

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Quote from: mrkevio on October 18, 2016, 02:56:04 AM

It's insanely hard to abstain from gambling after you lose. The addiction simply doesn't let you go away. The casinos have been well created and thought, because as you can see all of them are getting profit most of the time, unless someone cheats or hacks.

Well the casino's are not going to stop until the gamblers are not going to enter money to their pot. That is why everyone is just going to lose in the end only if you are going to let the casino's do that for you if you don't know how to control your emotion and winnings. But if you are able to make some good profit then just quit for this day and gamble again tomorrow.

We don't have the surety that
casinos are performing some cheating or doing
some things to make us lose at the end of the game.

There only a higher chance for you to lose
for a long run in one game if you bet higher and higher
until you lose it all.

All should be planned and carefully manage to prevent
losing more than what you've win.

We will not be cheated in gambling because the reputation is very important to the gambling sites, that is the main thing that they are taking care of to continue their business and to be more profitable, we just lose because we do not have the edge in gambling and the edge is only on them since they created the site as their business.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 20, 2016, 12:19:26 AM

Quote from: mrkevio on October 18, 2016, 02:56:04 AM

It's insanely hard to abstain from gambling after you lose. The addiction simply doesn't let you go away. The casinos have been well created and thought, because as you can see all of them are getting profit most of the time, unless someone cheats or hacks.

Well the casino's are not going to stop until the gamblers are not going to enter money to their pot. That is why everyone is just going to lose in the end only if you are going to let the casino's do that for you if you don't know how to control your emotion and winnings. But if you are able to make some good profit then just quit for this day and gamble again tomorrow.

We don't have the surety that
casinos are performing some cheating or doing
some things to make us lose at the end of the game.

There only a higher chance for you to lose
for a long run in one game if you bet higher and higher
until you lose it all.

All should be planned and carefully manage to prevent
losing more than what you've win.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Everyone looses in the long run.

That is why you need to make only few big bets. Longer time you will play and more bets you will make more chances is that you will lose your money. This is hard to see in most games but you easily see it in roulette. You get 36/37 return. So you lose 1/37 a spin. if you go all-in in a one spin you have way higher chances to get something then if you wait 370 spins.

The secret here is not to shorten our playing time in gambling, because you are talking about games which has an advantage over its gamblers then it is just right that we lose as the following day we are still gonna play if we play shorter time this day. There is no sense for me and I do not see the logic, but in sports betting you have a chance to win in the long run.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 03:32:01 PM

Everyone looses in the long run.

That is why you need to make only few big bets. Longer time you will play and more bets you will make more chances is that you will lose your money. This is hard to see in most games but you easily see it in roulette. You get 36/37 return. So you lose 1/37 a spin. if you go all-in in a one spin you have way higher chances to get something then if you wait 370 spins.

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Quote from: Positid on October 14, 2016, 08:22:14 AM

You can say that because you are not a professional gambler, if you are a professional gambler you will treat gambling as business rather than entertainment and with that you will employ a game plan to make you win and that includes bankroll management and managing your winnings as well.

I am saying this because I truly understand how gambling works and how risky it is, and I think even if your a professional gambler losing is still an option for you, you can not just play gambling without a losing bet or just a winning bet, but the good part in playing gambling is you will never know when will you able to win or lose or profit for the impending day that you play!

The normal thing is we lose most of the time, that is gambling and we are mean to lose in the long run, now if you are still not convince with the reality and you still have doubts on that, you can always try on your own.

I have no doubts about gambling can really lose up all of your money with it, and can even ruin your life, but some other gamblers treat it as a job, hobby, and sometimes entertainment for them but in my perspective you can not take it lightly and should take gambling seriously because of the damage you can get with it, I say you should think first before getting your money all out with gambling!

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It is about long term or short run to loose.It is about bad odds or bad time which can appear at any stage.It is also possible you may remain without money in very early hands and don''t even reach in long run.After all most of the players end up with zero bankroll this is what I have seen so far.

It only applies to those who are gambling with the wrong way and they always put forward an intelligent game than greed. Actually gambling can survive in the long term, if the gambler can play with how intelligent and full of strategies. All of that only applies to those who want to do something intelligent and structured way

It always depends on the type of gambling we are playing, if it is like dice or roulette you cannot employ a smart strategy to win it in the long run, those type of games is won by the house due to advantage in favor of them. The best example of game that you can win in the long run are skilled base games.

Yeah those games dice and roulette is luck base and you can not make any strategy in this game.. but if you play in skill base game without luck you can not still make a profit.. they need each other. like in poker if you are not lucky you can not make profit even a small amount..
So i think all gambling games is always base in luck and its just for entertainment..

If our fate is not good means skill based games also we will loose. yes but you want to win long run in gambling means we have to choose casino games only yes here only we can hit back to back win. In skill based games sport betting we have to wait for game end but if loss or win it's only one time happen in a day. so you want to try your fate in long run try in dice game. i tried but not made big profit.

if you really had fate then means your just praying for your profit and even you don't have skills when you have faith on winning you can win is that what you meant? i think there are gamblin that really based on skill like casino and there are gambling that based on luck and sports right?

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Nobody wins in the long run when it comes to gambling.. it's only for entertainment.. I have a friend who's really rich and because of gambling he lost everything and now he start back at one again. If you're going to win big time in casino that's it! hold the money use it wisely.

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