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Quote from: smho_16 on January 16, 2016, 07:20:25 AM

Not 100% correct....but I really agree this statement

You are not going to win in the long run from gambling because the chance of losing is still bigger then that of winning.
Only with poker you can win and make a profit in the long run because your skill is also involved with poker.

Well in different angle we are going to see that is the fact that we are not able to change because even how big you are going to win in gambling.

That will fall into losing if you are not going to manage your winnings properly and that is why you just need to focus into something more profitable.

And I guess that is going to be better if you are going to be in trading.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 09, 2016, 02:16:37 AM

Definitely, because gambling is for entertainment but it is just natural to spend money in gambling to enjoy otherwise we are not gambling at all. As long as fun is only your aim in gambling, you will have no problem as you can control your self and you can minimize your loses.

I agree, because once that you can still control yourself, for me, it is just fine to play gambling. Some of us really wants to earn in gambling but the truth is, they didn't achieve what they wanted. Some people get what they want in gambling because for sure they are lucky enough to win the game. Most of the time Gambling is really more on luck.

gambling will never work for most people who want to make money.

only those people who since first day have a purpose to build a career in gambling like a pro poker player can win and make money in the long run. we are a occasional player cannot expect to win in long term.

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Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

The long run is actually different for people in the sense that my own long run will be someone else short run but why everyone losses or most people losses is not knowing the right time to stop playing because i believe when people invested time on an activity, mastery sets in which is the long run part but nit knowing when to stop leads to losses which eventually validates op's position.

Long run or short runs the result would be still the same hence the outcomes do happen anytime maybe in a longer or shorter time thats why it really differs. Mastery is nothing when playing gambling because it wont change the results anything at all. Gambling is designed that way.

I think you need to consider the type of gambling you are playing because skills does matters in sports betting and skilled based games, when you are playing in dice, then really you have no chance to win in the long run.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on October 13, 2016, 01:36:42 AM

Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:17:03 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

The long run is actually different for people in the sense that my own long run will be someone else short run but why everyone losses or most people losses is not knowing the right time to stop playing because i believe when people invested time on an activity, mastery sets in which is the long run part but nit knowing when to stop leads to losses which eventually validates op's position.

Long run or short runs the result would be still the same hence the outcomes do happen anytime maybe in a longer or shorter time thats why it really differs. Mastery is nothing when playing gambling because it wont change the results anything at all. Gambling is designed that way.

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Quote from: smho_16 on January 16, 2016, 07:20:25 AM

Not 100% correct....but I really agree this statement

You are not going to win in the long run from gambling because the chance of losing is still bigger then that of winning.
Only with poker you can win and make a profit in the long run because your skill is also involved with poker.

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Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:17:03 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

The long run is actually different for people in the sense that my own long run will be someone else short run but why everyone losses or most people losses is not knowing the right time to stop playing because i believe when people invested time on an activity, mastery sets in which is the long run part but nit knowing when to stop leads to losses which eventually validates op's position.

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Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

A gambling addict never realizes those, I know that, I know some... They are even happy when they go home after losing and still has the guts to drink liquors and talk about their losses... The following day they will do it again and happy enough if they win even a few cents... So I think that's how gambling is... So while you are not yet an addict, better quit...

Gambling addict does not care about winning or losing. They just want to gamble more and more. Even without money, some of them will still find ways to borrow more money to gamble. They already know they will lose but they still carry on to gamble.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 09, 2016, 02:16:37 AM

Definitely, because gambling is for entertainment but it is just natural to spend money in gambling to enjoy otherwise we are not gambling at all. As long as fun is only your aim in gambling, you will have no problem as you can control your self and you can minimize your loses.

I agree, because once that you can still control yourself, for me, it is just fine to play gambling. Some of us really wants to earn in gambling but the truth is, they didn't achieve what they wanted. Some people get what they want in gambling because for sure they are lucky enough to win the game. Most of the time Gambling is really more on luck.

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Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:21:39 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

A gambling addict never realizes those, I know that, I know some... They are even happy when they go home after losing and still has the guts to drink liquors and talk about their losses... The following day they will do it again and happy enough if they win even a few cents... So I think that's how gambling is... So while you are not yet an addict, better quit...

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Quote from: abugseuf on October 12, 2016, 05:17:19 PM

Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:17:03 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

i think it is not necessary that every one will lose in long run, as there are so many people who really make money from gambling and then stop it any more.

Yes, some people are making money in gambling, but in slot games going win in the long run is not that much easy and also it's not possible I think. If you can try in skill games then it may be possible I am not sure. In sports betting many people make back to back win, so here we can able to make some profit.

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Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:17:03 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

i think it is not necessary that every one will lose in long run, as there are so many people who really make money from gambling and then stop it any more.

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Quote from: roadbits on October 12, 2016, 02:55:32 PM

Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:21:39 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

It's human nature, people will forget the sad movements very quickly, they only remember happy movements. Like that people will forget the loss they only remember winnings. So if people will win their bet's in long run process, they will not stop in correct time. They become greedy, and they will lose everything that they earned. After losing all money then people will get to know the gambling is not profitable in the long run.

I agree with your psychological perspective of every human especially gamblers. That must be the right reason why gamblers are sticking with gambling in long run even they are facing losses in almost all of their attempts.
When gambling is not profitable even with the first round of play, how we can expect it should be profitable in long run. Both in long run or within first day everyone will be losing in gambling. That must be an universal true.

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Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:21:39 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

It's human nature, people will forget the sad movements very quickly, they only remember happy movements. Like that people will forget the loss they only remember winnings. So if people will win their bet's in long run process, they will not stop in correct time. They become greedy, and they will lose everything that they earned. After losing all money then people will get to know the gambling is not profitable in the long run.

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Quote from: subhiii on October 12, 2016, 12:21:39 PM

Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

for me it is a matter of course. when I often lose, then play again and lost again. even, I played for a long period of time and the result is always the same. because I really playing gambling with free money.
anyone would have had a lot to lose in the long run. because it is impossible to always win on gambling.

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Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

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Most people will lose at gambling if they run it for a long time. But, most people didnt realize it. When someone lost a bunch and they keep gambling and suddently have some good profit, they will forget about they previous lost although they profit in fact cant cover all the previous lost.

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Quote from: CryptoBjorn on May 04, 2016, 03:20:27 AM

Yeah it is almost impossible to make a profit in the long run when it comes to gambling. That means that you have to gamble many times and for you to win most times is pretty unlikely to happen.

With gambling you are not going to win in the long run maybe there are some days where you win a good amount of money but overall you are going to lose.
This happens to most people who gamble you have to be lucky.

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Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.

If I were in that situation, I would rather stop than to achieve that target because I am satisfy of what I have won, I just play for fun and that is my bonus for what I enter, and that is gambling that is really risky, but if you see gambling as a simple game, it will always fine for you to play.

Good point playing gambling just for fun will allow us not to be stress if we lose i like the idea if we win it is just a bonus with the fun and excitement that gambling brings.

Yeah Because we all know that gambling is very risky so I don't really get serious about gambling. And I don't focus on gambling. For me this is just a game when I am bored that I can use to.

Yes, you are perfectly correct. If you think the gambling is just made for our entertainment, Then you will not lose much money in gambling. While playing the game ofcourse in the long run win everyone gets excited, and people will think to make more profit. But they don't know at the end of the game we will lose everything. So if you control your mind, then you will not lose in the long run.

I disagree that even you are going to control your mind and it tends that you are just enjoying then tendency you are not going to take care about your money. So, even you are losing that is going to be fine with you because you are just aiming for entertainment. And in the end that is just going to tell us that everyone is just going to lose in the end.

It is fine to enjoy your money as long as you use the amount that is only intended in gambling. there is no wrong of having an entertainment in gambling. As long as you know how to manage yourself or your financial.

Definitely, because gambling is for entertainment but it is just natural to spend money in gambling to enjoy otherwise we are not gambling at all. As long as fun is only your aim in gambling, you will have no problem as you can control your self and you can minimize your loses.

Not all people treats gambling just entertainment only, it is making them a living so they are treating it as a source of income. Especially when they already know how the process and cycle of gambling is moving. But the fact is that even how much you are going to win and how big the jackpot you are going to get as long as you will not stop, you will just lose in the end.

Yeah, not all people are treating it as for fun but that is the best way to treat gambling to minimize our loses and get more enjoyment, actually it cannot be deny that due to gambling many lives are ruined but it cannot be blame with gambling also as once you are into gambling it is expected that you have understood the risk and embrace it.

I think one of the biggest issues with becoming addicted to gambling is that you cannot completely avoid gambling unless you go off the internet. There is adds everywhere and even innocent card games for play money can become a problem again.

Knowing the risk and embracingt it requires rational thinking, something that you lose when you become addicted.

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