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February 19, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Gambling should be a hobby, something you do for fun. It's great when you win but you shouldn't gamble with amounts that you can't afford to lose. The only rule is to gamble responsibly & don't get yourself in financial trouble. Sounds easy right? It should be but some people struggle.
i think it will be better to find some thing else just for the sake of fun and enjoyment. because there is no fun in gambling if there is no money involve. i think we an only enjoy gambling if we are making money from it. but gambling giving us hope for ever time even if we are loosing money. for every time it give us hope that we can make money from it if we play it for the next time. but for every time we have the same result.
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February 19, 2017, 05:04:08 PM
Not true I've seen many people who won most of the times and still plays with profit. They too loss some money but for very short time.

I think it's opposite, many are losing in the long run and do get nothing from playing. And those people who you are saying are very few. Because I did experience it myself that I won for some amount in the first place but in the end I'm falling into the same result that I'm losing a lot of money and that's been proven already.
That is actually true. We win so much and we think we are in profit but most of the people who gamble they don't realise that if tbey calculate all the money they earned and the money they spent they are actually in a really big loss. The best solution to it is stop and let us be in a loss.
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February 18, 2017, 12:45:54 AM
Not true I've seen many people who won most of the times and still plays with profit. They too loss some money but for very short time.

I think it's opposite, many are losing in the long run and do get nothing from playing. And those people who you are saying are very few. Because I did experience it myself that I won for some amount in the first place but in the end I'm falling into the same result that I'm losing a lot of money and that's been proven already.
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February 17, 2017, 11:14:14 PM
Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.

What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run
You are not listening, winning the lottery is hard but every day someone wins it, winning in the long run at sports betting is hard but it is possible and there are people doing it every single day, the same way there are people winning at blackjack using card counting and other strategies.

All things you mentioned do happen and people win but see the frequency of those wins. Maybe i play 100 days and after that one day i win the lottery. What about the loss which i made in rest 99 days. Also i need to have that much investment to invest for all these days on a loss. Same is true for sports betting etc.
Gambling is game for rich only. Wink
Maybe you are right, because they have the liberty to spend their money and be entertain even if they lose. The thing is, when you are not in the situation where you can easily spend for gambling, most likely you will not gonna enjoy as the fear of losing is more dominant in your feelings.
Having said that, you are starting to be irresponsible in gambling as when the outcome does not favor you, it will greatly affect your life.
If you are worried about that you could set a weekly budget for your gambling activities that way you will not have to worry about losing too much money in the casino, so when you hit your limit you just stop playing until next week when you will have available funds to gamble.
its easy to set it up you just needed to make sure that you empty your wallet just in case you lose already from that particular week you don't be bother or you will not be tempted to play more since your bankroll was already been empty its a best practice especially for those who really don't know how to control we should practice this.
It is also a good idea to have separate wallets for different purposes, one wallet can be used to receive you earnings form signature campaign or trading, but you use another wallet to send and receive your gambling money that way you avoid the temptation to use more money than you should when you gamble.
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February 17, 2017, 04:30:57 PM
Not true I've seen many people who won most of the times and still plays with profit. They too loss some money but for very short time.
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February 17, 2017, 04:26:46 PM
Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.
Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

It is because the addiction was being planted already in the characteristic of the gambler. Which is leading the affect in psychological behavior problem sometimes. All gamblers always losses in the long run, and they never noticed it most of the time. Due to they've already immuned for thinking they need to fulfil their satisfaction once its being achieve they will stop even loss in the games.
but i am not agree with this statement because i personally know so many people who are making  more money from gambling and are leading happy even their main income is from gambling. gambling is the main source of making money for them. although some time they also lose money but overall they make goo money from gambling.
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February 17, 2017, 01:18:41 PM
Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.
Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

It is because the addiction was being planted already in the characteristic of the gambler. Which is leading the affect in psychological behavior problem sometimes. All gamblers always losses in the long run, and they never noticed it most of the time. Due to they've already immuned for thinking they need to fulfil their satisfaction once its being achieve they will stop even loss in the games.
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February 16, 2017, 11:41:30 AM
Maybe he set ome aside for entertainment purposes in order to make himself happy whether winning or not. It's about ones attitude in order to regain their losses. I have lost a big one but continually rebuilding my balance and finally, I've won it back. Success and it's fun to win.

Your luck will not always on your side so dont continue what you are doing. Everyone is going to lose in the long run so dont expect things are going to be on your side always. The only way to win is to invest however if you think that it is only for entertainment then it is fine to keep on doing what you are doing right now
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February 16, 2017, 05:31:57 AM
Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$

don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet ? so what if you only have a few money left . you will still continue your game ? . it appears that you are not thinking for the future needs or expenses, there are many things that you need to sustain more than this habit . people should not be optimistic with gambling although you have a lot of money to gamble on being successful in gamble is not guaranteed .
Maybe he set ome aside for entertainment purposes in order to make himself happy whether winning or not. It's about ones attitude in order to regain their losses. I have lost a big one but continually rebuilding my balance and finally, I've won it back. Success and it's fun to win.
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February 16, 2017, 05:29:29 AM
Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$

don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet ? so what if you only have a few money left . you will still continue your game ? . it appears that you are not thinking for the future needs or expenses, there are many things that you need to sustain more than this habit . people should not be optimistic with gambling although you have a lot of money to gamble on being successful in gamble is not guaranteed .
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February 16, 2017, 04:44:47 AM
Definitely, gambling is a negative sum game, you are playing against the house that has the edge. the highest outcome would be in peer-to-peer games like betfair and in pvp games generally, and even in these there is house fees, but it's lower than the edge and the odds are close to equal.
poker would be the answer for those people who have played for years and got a lot of experiences, know how to handle certain situation when you are  underpressure , got a lot of skills how to bluff etc. a lot of have done this very well keep winning in the long run.
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February 16, 2017, 04:29:39 AM
As I said in other parts of the forum,you need to split everything in other activities, not stick to once.
That is a good idea,since there are many dice site ,you now have the option to go out to different sites and play for a certain time in one site and then try another one so that you can beat the house edge   Cheesy

You mean to say you want to get a big loan then gamble it all in different sites? Grin

That will all lead to huge losses everywhere and you will be left in debt like many other addicted gamblers. If you think you can beat the house edge in some casino game think again since the house edge makes the odds against you and you are bound to lose if you keep on gambling more and more.

Possibly this was the most desperate attempt to make money in this forum, as much as I have seen. Grin Grin
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February 16, 2017, 12:38:42 AM
i agree partially with this thread, not everyone lose with gambling, gambling rely on pure luck, some people are very luck and despite their huge amount of bets they still come up victorious and take to home a very nice profit, but i understand that for every 1 that is so lucky there are millions that are not
I think you are wrong you should have said that not everyone wins in gambling but I agree to your point that 1 in every million is lucky so if you all think gambling is soo risky then why invest it.
Why don't people invest in sports betting instead as I have been betting for a long time and I found it less risky than gambling even though you can't double your investment with one bet always but it's still fine.

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.
I don't think you actually need any sort of skills of course everyone knows that in football a team with more amount of goals win normally sites like sportsbet.io have live betting and they keep the markets open till the 89-90th min the odds are normally less but you can get an idea of which team will win or it will be draw. Till now I haven't lost in football with this method but tennis is screwed up I lost lot's of money but that's fine I deserve it for my greed.
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February 16, 2017, 12:15:17 AM
Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.

What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run
You are not listening, winning the lottery is hard but every day someone wins it, winning in the long run at sports betting is hard but it is possible and there are people doing it every single day, the same way there are people winning at blackjack using card counting and other strategies.

All things you mentioned do happen and people win but see the frequency of those wins. Maybe i play 100 days and after that one day i win the lottery. What about the loss which i made in rest 99 days. Also i need to have that much investment to invest for all these days on a loss. Same is true for sports betting etc.
Gambling is game for rich only. Wink
Maybe you are right, because they have the liberty to spend their money and be entertain even if they lose. The thing is, when you are not in the situation where you can easily spend for gambling, most likely you will not gonna enjoy as the fear of losing is more dominant in your feelings.
Having said that, you are starting to be irresponsible in gambling as when the outcome does not favor you, it will greatly affect your life.
If you are worried about that you could set a weekly budget for your gambling activities that way you will not have to worry about losing too much money in the casino, so when you hit your limit you just stop playing until next week when you will have available funds to gamble.
its easy to set it up you just needed to make sure that you empty your wallet just in case you lose already from that particular week you don't be bother or you will not be tempted to play more since your bankroll was already been empty its a best practice especially for those who really don't know how to control we should practice this.
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February 16, 2017, 12:03:36 AM
Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.

What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run
You are not listening, winning the lottery is hard but every day someone wins it, winning in the long run at sports betting is hard but it is possible and there are people doing it every single day, the same way there are people winning at blackjack using card counting and other strategies.

All things you mentioned do happen and people win but see the frequency of those wins. Maybe i play 100 days and after that one day i win the lottery. What about the loss which i made in rest 99 days. Also i need to have that much investment to invest for all these days on a loss. Same is true for sports betting etc.
Gambling is game for rich only. Wink
Maybe you are right, because they have the liberty to spend their money and be entertain even if they lose. The thing is, when you are not in the situation where you can easily spend for gambling, most likely you will not gonna enjoy as the fear of losing is more dominant in your feelings.
Having said that, you are starting to be irresponsible in gambling as when the outcome does not favor you, it will greatly affect your life.
If you are worried about that you could set a weekly budget for your gambling activities that way you will not have to worry about losing too much money in the casino, so when you hit your limit you just stop playing until next week when you will have available funds to gamble.
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February 15, 2017, 10:43:34 PM
Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.
Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.
Let us not make stopping a temporary thing, we stop because we realize that we are not doing good in gambling. Even if we lose when we lose, at least it is a positive actions because we were able to minimize our loses. Some addicted gamblers do last until their last centavo and their addiction has ruin their life and if we will not stop, we will probably gonna end up that way.

Whatever the reason why we are stopping still when a gambler is a certified gambler on his heart, he will do something to get back.

And they are just going to stop for a while but after that, they will do what they want that leads team in losing a lot of their bankroll.

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February 15, 2017, 06:45:31 PM

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

Having an online casino is a serious task and not for fun especially when there are investment option because no matter what , your site is going to be a target of blackhat hacker that are looking for backdoors through your code . When you are in charge of other's money then that is not fun and a serious job to do

It is not all about "fun" when you are going to own and operate a casino, it's more of a business. And that's why many of us are losing in the long run because their goal and mission is to get profit from its gamblers. But they aren't making their gamblers lose all the time, they are doing some marketing like making a certain gambler a winner for a while and still they lose in the long run.
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February 15, 2017, 06:43:14 PM
As I said in other parts of the forum,you need to split everything in other activities, not stick to once.
That is a good idea,since there are many dice site ,you now have the option to go out to different sites and play for a certain time in one site and then try another one so that you can beat the house edge   Cheesy
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February 15, 2017, 06:05:17 PM
Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$
If you are so successful in gambling, why are you wearing betcoinag signature and posting for peanuts when you can earn money in long run from gamble?  Grin
I have to disagree with you, you can't say everything will be good in the end because you don't know outcome of the game.
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February 15, 2017, 02:20:00 PM
Definitely, gambling is a negative sum game, you are playing against the house that has the edge. the highest outcome would be in peer-to-peer games like betfair and in pvp games generally, and even in these there is house fees, but it's lower than the edge and the odds are close to equal.
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