Everyone looses in the long run - page 6.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 15, 2017, 09:22:03 AM

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

Having an online casino is a serious task and not for fun especially when there are investment option because no matter what , your site is going to be a target of blackhat hacker that are looking for backdoors through your code . When you are in charge of other's money then that is not fun and a serious job to do

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If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

Investing the money in the casino bankroll is a good investment - meant for long term profit. But this thread is about people trying to make short term profits from gambling and ending up losing everything.

If you take both sides then I agree it will be fun to observe the outcomes - but even there is no profit since the house keeps a percentage while the rest is obtained as investment profit. So actually you will be losing more than you win as profit from the game and investment taken together.

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

The only thing we can do about the fact that everyone loses in the long run is to try to lose less. And not due to "recovering", thus you will lose even more, but due to making small bets.

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Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$

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but most of the people play gambling for making money and not for entertainment and they can only entertained in gambling if they are making money in gambling. but it is also a fact that majority of people lose money in gambling but still they continue their struggle to make money in gambling.

People wont be able to make any money in gambling for sure. I'll probably be the first one to be rich in gambling if I could be making money from it. I have been gamble alot and Im not rich for sure , the only way to make money is to only invest in a gambling sites that has top volume and the result is worth it

no i disagree with your opinion, you could make money in gambling it is just the mater of how much your chance. and the answer are there is very low chance for you to make it happen , you need a super lucky to leave gambling in the right time.

and ended up your career with a good amount to live in the rest of your life.

You could earn if you are not that greedy. Make sure that you can provide a healthy bankroll to start with and not be greedy when the time comes you need it. Bet proper amounts and withdraw small amounts, in the long run, you could win. There is no assurance in that if you just gamble and not making good decisions. Better be safe than sorry.

healthy bankroll you mean with larger bankroll? i don't think it was a good idea.

higher bankroll you bring in higher risk you take to lost the whole amount . why you have to do it when you can make low amount to the high when you are lucky enough right? better to lost small amount rather than take too big risk.

A gambler is not an idiot to raise a bigger bankroll if he does not believe in his capacity to win. Though it's possible to raise a big amount of bankroll, it's still important they we should not violate the principle of not to gamble what you can afford to lose. Those who can raise a good amount are people who considers gambling as their profession.

agree , a professional gambler who gamble on skill based games like poker or sportsbetting because i never heard about a pro gambler in dice game Grin

, first of all you have to be skillful and then yes it is not a problem anymore when you want to increase the bankroll.

but let's talk about a common people who aren't experienced enough, is it a good idea to do it? i don't think so.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on February 14, 2017, 06:46:23 AM

If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

Investing the money in the casino bankroll is a good investment - meant for long term profit. But this thread is about people trying to make short term profits from gambling and ending up losing everything.

If you take both sides then I agree it will be fun to observe the outcomes - but even there is no profit since the house keeps a percentage while the rest is obtained as investment profit. So actually you will be losing more than you win as profit from the game and investment taken together.

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Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.

Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

Let us not make stopping a temporary thing, we stop because we realize that we are not doing good in gambling. Even if we lose when we lose, at least it is a positive actions because we were able to minimize our loses. Some addicted gamblers do last until their last centavo and their addiction has ruin their life and if we will not stop, we will probably gonna end up that way.

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Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.

Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

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Quote from: conected on February 14, 2017, 11:09:21 AM

In gambling, after playing for a long time we would be very easy to lose a lot. But in investment, after a long time, income will stable and increase profits from time to time

This is true in most cases and according to the math however dont forget that gambler still have chance to win so investment could not always be positive, sometimes you might lose money as well however it is rare for that to happen. It is much safer than gambling however there is always no guarantee to everything

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Everyone who play long run will always loose, better do not play gambling, but if you think you can't stay without playing gambling than just play in small run. if you listen me I would suggest just play once a day. and if you see you are wining but still don't increase your playing time.

What kind of suggestion is this? you recommend people to play once a day just to check if he wins or not? whats the point of that ? If you feel like not playing at all then dont play. There are alot of things that , well I could really say that mostly is just weird thing that people keep on suggesting in this thread

What kind of answer do you expect as it is a known fact that people will lose money if you are gambling for a longer period of time and almost all gamblers here in this forum might have experienced that .So the OP started a thread which is in fact true to the words in the title and what should we expect others to tell . Grin

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not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

- Investment, business is good and less risky than gambling. Many people gamble because they want quickly and easily, they do not accept to wait for a long time. In gambling, after playing for a long time we would be very easy to lose a lot. But in investment, after a long time, income will stable and increase profits from time to time

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not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

People has many reason why they use and play gambling . Many of us here just want to earn profit from the capital they use in the gambling game. We can accept the fact that People is enjoying playing gambling They make fun of it and they can entertain themselves at the same tkme they are earning money.

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not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

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not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

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not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on February 14, 2017, 06:46:23 AM

If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides.

Thats the only way for us gambler to win in the long run because by playing normally you wont be able to win however it is really a long term project and people dislike it. Sometimes if we are lucky enough we might be able to win some money in short term from investment as well however that will also depends on the amount you put in the bankroll

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Everyone who play long run will always loose, better do not play gambling, but if you think you can't stay without playing gambling than just play in small run. if you listen me I would suggest just play once a day. and if you see you are wining but still don't increase your playing time.

What kind of suggestion is this? you recommend people to play once a day just to check if he wins or not? whats the point of that ? If you feel like not playing at all then dont play. There are alot of things that , well I could really say that mostly is just weird thing that people keep on suggesting in this thread

Yes, this is not a good suggestion, if you do not control your feelings you will lose money in the long run better stop your play. People will not addict to gambling games they will addict to bitcoin because the price will make them to addict gambling. So to earn bitcoins choose any other methods then slowly you will lose interest on gambling.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on February 14, 2017, 06:46:23 AM

If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

Nice strategy to minimize on loses(become an investor) and the house will never be beat in the long run if you are playing to get a profit unless you are a smart gambler

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If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

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Quote from: neonshium on February 14, 2017, 06:21:51 AM

Everyone who play long run will always loose, better do not play gambling, but if you think you can't stay without playing gambling than just play in small run. if you listen me I would suggest just play once a day. and if you see you are wining but still don't increase your playing time.

What kind of suggestion is this? you recommend people to play once a day just to check if he wins or not? whats the point of that ? If you feel like not playing at all then dont play. There are alot of things that , well I could really say that mostly is just weird thing that people keep on suggesting in this thread

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Everyone who play long run will always loose, better do not play gambling, but if you think you can't stay without playing gambling than just play in small run. if you listen me I would suggest just play once a day. and if you see you are wining but still don't increase your playing time.

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