Topic: Everyone loses money when the market is down right? (Read 22175 times)
No, that’s only if you are directly involved in the market. But if you are doing something like trading, it’s possible for us to gain money even when markets are down. I myself love doing Crypto Trading only because of freedom to make money through every way, as it’s just not possible for one to succeed without it. I find it all super easy with trading given as I said there is complete freedom and comfort with how we work.
There are figures on the cryptocurrency market who earn in any conditions, and with the help of falling prices and of course with a bull run. Nevertheless, when the market drops very much, cryptocurrency users consider this as another chance to buy the most promising coins at a bargain price. While traders stop their trading for a while, because even daily trading can assume prices change by plus or minus about 5%, and if the market really crashes, the trader may suffer losses if something sells ahead of time.
Let me correct you first, not all traders in the field of crypto loss their money just because the market was down.
This is absolutely wrong, because good trader most often when the market down for them it is a good timing for them
to get huge profit in the future, because they will buy huge token due to they believed in the coins,
This is absolutely wrong, because good trader most often when the market down for them it is a good timing for them
to get huge profit in the future, because they will buy huge token due to they believed in the coins,
You only lose money if you do CUT LOSS, For example;
"You buy 1 Bitcoin at $ 10k/coin then the price of Bitcoin goes down to $ 5k/coin,
If you sell your 1 Bitcoin at $ 5k/coin then you lose money,
but if you HODL your 1 Bitcoin then you only lose value not your money".
"You buy 1 Bitcoin at $ 10k/coin then the price of Bitcoin goes down to $ 5k/coin,
If you sell your 1 Bitcoin at $ 5k/coin then you lose money,
but if you HODL your 1 Bitcoin then you only lose value not your money".
You can always short cryptocurrencies with futures trading/margin trading. Although it is mostly a sophisticated traders' thing.
When the red market is not everyone experiences loss, some traders do margin trading I think this technique is tempting. or they have a target for cut loss so losses can be avoided. each trader has a different trading plan and strategy for dealing with situations like this.
So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money? Example let say this. You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips. Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it. Now the market goes down every single day. First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour? Or is that impossible?
Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this? Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit. But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money? Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit. However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.
Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems? Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down? Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now. But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.
So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down? And almost everyone makes money when the market is up? Because if btc goes up, the alts follow. BTC drops, everything follows. Its like there is zero skill at all almost. Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others. Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc? Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.
So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago. So where is the skill here? Its basically when to sell and when to buy right? However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money? Because isn't almost everyone losing money? The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy. Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.
Who is making any money now when the market is down? The ppl who are selling? Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before. Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well? I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems? The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here? I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc. Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing. Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money. Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe. That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc. However, the thing is the public does win. And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money. But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again. However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.
So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses? Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak. But eventually they win back the average joes money. But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time. Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes. Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing. If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning. I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time. But no matter what, someone has to win. Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor. Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading. Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc. But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses. Thus that is where the skill comes in. So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid? I mean if market is down, who is making any money? Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius. Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.
Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this? I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it. But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market. There doesn't seem to be any skill in it. Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting? Thanks.
Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this? Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit. But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money? Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit. However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.
Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems? Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down? Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now. But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.
So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down? And almost everyone makes money when the market is up? Because if btc goes up, the alts follow. BTC drops, everything follows. Its like there is zero skill at all almost. Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others. Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc? Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.
So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago. So where is the skill here? Its basically when to sell and when to buy right? However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money? Because isn't almost everyone losing money? The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy. Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.
Who is making any money now when the market is down? The ppl who are selling? Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before. Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well? I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems? The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here? I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc. Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing. Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money. Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe. That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc. However, the thing is the public does win. And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money. But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again. However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.
So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses? Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak. But eventually they win back the average joes money. But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time. Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes. Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing. If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning. I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time. But no matter what, someone has to win. Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor. Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading. Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc. But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses. Thus that is where the skill comes in. So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid? I mean if market is down, who is making any money? Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius. Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.
Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this? I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it. But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market. There doesn't seem to be any skill in it. Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting? Thanks.
It depends on what strategy you're using to avoid a possible market crash fallout. Some investors can actually turn profits during a bearish market instead of losses. You always need to choose your investments wisely; on the crypto market you should have a trade plan and follow the market closely, since timing is crucial here to turn profits and keep your capital in green.
Well how did traders make money last year then when everything dropped? I mean unless you bought altcoins, it was hard to be profitable right? Imagine buying btc at 10k and it not once hitting over 10k even for a few seconds.
Ofcourse we are just people and we are also afraid of losing big money so we are also panic to sell at a low cost so the money will not be bigger when markets fall 
Yes, that's true. We cannot avoid that because we all humans have emotions so that we need to control our feelings in terms in trading. If you see that the market will go down don't panic just relax, and decide according to what you have learned because it is very important for every traders. Some traders are more likely to gain a number of different cryptocurrencies due to lower prices, because they competently develop a strategy, first sell at a higher price and wait for bitcoin to begin to rise in price, and altcoins do not immediately begin to reach for it
If anyone trade base on usd then they can make profit as the price of almost all the coin according to increasing day by day but if you consider base on bitcoin then almost all the coin are going down as price of bitcoin increasing.It's obviously that in downtrend not all the people lose money because some of them use margin trading.You can also try it on Monfex.It's a very convenient trading platform.
indeed, with the logic of the market when the price goes down it must be a loss, but for those who are smart to use the margin trade losses it can be avoided when the market goes down and it is very difficult for beginners. in my opinion the market is down also profitable for those who will buy at lower prices.
Some traders are more likely to gain a number of different cryptocurrencies due to lower prices, because they competently develop a strategy, first sell at a higher price and wait for bitcoin to begin to rise in price, and altcoins do not immediately begin to reach for it
If anyone trade base on usd then they can make profit as the price of almost all the coin according to increasing day by day but if you consider base on bitcoin then almost all the coin are going down as price of bitcoin increasing.
Some traders are more likely to gain a number of different cryptocurrencies due to lower prices, because they competently develop a strategy, first sell at a higher price and wait for bitcoin to begin to rise in price, and altcoins do not immediately begin to reach for it
If anyone trade base on usd then they can make profit as the price of almost all the coin according to increasing day by day but if you consider base on bitcoin then almost all the coin are going down as price of bitcoin increasing. To me, I think it is general, everybody losses money when market goes down and if you are not patient enough you may lose All your profit once.
Not everyone, only those who sell due to panic. Price going up and down is pretty normal, that's the volatility we are experiencing here, so we need to hold and continue to believe, so we will not loss any.
yes, that only applies to panicked traders. for some people who have skills in trading they can actually use the opportunity of a decline in market prices to buy more types of potential coins that they will hold for a long time and can sell at a high price
Some traders are more likely to gain a number of different cryptocurrencies due to lower prices, because they competently develop a strategy, first sell at a higher price and wait for bitcoin to begin to rise in price, and altcoins do not immediately begin to reach for it
In general - yes, some people make profit by shorting BTC, staking and masternodes rewards
All time trader can make profit but not by all trader on bullish market can make profit and on the same trader may make profit on bearish market. It depends on the coin you are taking. Buying at dip and selling at pick is a good strategy, it will never make you complain if the market is volatile as you can take advantage on it.
not everyone but many lose major of them loses because of averaging and thinking that prices will raise again , there are many who closes the position without greed and make profits most of the investors who invest at the end of the rally will lose money as there is a saying when all are investing stay away when no one is investing buy just a concept of under valued and overvalued
hahah everyone who doesn't use AI trading (mpcx) loses money...
When some lose money, others earn their losses. If you earned on cryptocurrency, then someone lost this money.
Yes, when anyone losses means someone got profit I mean each trading has both sides loss and win but it can be different for the shit coin as they will only goes down, they wont give profit to any market either that is bear or that is bullish. 
Yes, it is true! No one can stand in a bearish season. Definitely all of us lose involuntarily. However, because of scalping we can lowered the potential of losing. Scalping is a way on how to buy and sell immediately the token. If you will do this perfectly, I assume that you will never lose a lot. Instead, you will get your capital in bear market.
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