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Everyone can't loose money, when the market is down, we have other techniques add into trading just like the Margin Trading many traders many use of this aspects to make money while the Market is crashing. 
Topic: Everyone loses money when the market is down right? - page 3. (Read 22196 times)
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Everyone can't loose money, when the market is down, we have other techniques add into trading just like the Margin Trading many traders many use of this aspects to make money while the Market is crashing. 
In general - yes, some people make profit by shorting BTC, staking and masternodes rewards
All time trader can make profit but not by all trader on bullish market can make profit and on the same trader may make profit on bearish market. It depends on the coin you are taking. Buying at dip and selling at pick is a good strategy, it will never make you complain if the market is volatile as you can take advantage on it.
In general - yes, some people make profit by shorting BTC, staking and masternodes rewards
All time trader can make profit but not by all trader on bullish market can make profit and on the same trader may make profit on bearish market. It depends on the coin you are taking. Buying at dip and selling at pick is a good strategy, it will never make you complain if the market is volatile as you can take advantage on it.
Not everyone some they might gain from satoshi but lost in USD value , that's why some traders want to cut their losses when it's triggered the closing point.
Although they are lost in USDT, they could recover their losses and that only happen if they don't sell the coins in the downtime and only hold the coin until the price can increase.But many of us don't see a hope for the coin and only make a short decision to sell the coin while the price is not going down for more.
That will be a mistake for them because if they realize that the coin will increase after the fall, they will not sell the coin and only waiting the time to make a profit again, but it will only for the potential coin only.
The rest coin will stay at the market and only waiting for the best time to follow the increase.
So with how much bitcoin and all the altcoins are down, is it even possible for any trader to make any money? Example let say this. You buy btc at a very low price due to these dips. Now you could either keep btc or buy altcoins with it. Now the market goes down every single day. First off, does anyone know if btc or any altcoins ever have a day where the prices drop every single hour? Or is that impossible?
Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this? Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit. But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money? Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit. However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.
Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems? Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down? Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now. But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.
So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down? And almost everyone makes money when the market is up? Because if btc goes up, the alts follow. BTC drops, everything follows. Its like there is zero skill at all almost. Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others. Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc? Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.
So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago. So where is the skill here? Its basically when to sell and when to buy right? However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money? Because isn't almost everyone losing money? The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy. Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.
Who is making any money now when the market is down? The ppl who are selling? Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before. Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well? I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems? The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here? I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc. Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing. Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money. Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe. That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc. However, the thing is the public does win. And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money. But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again. However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.
So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses? Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak. But eventually they win back the average joes money. But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time. Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes. Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing. If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning. I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time. But no matter what, someone has to win. Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor. Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading. Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc. But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses. Thus that is where the skill comes in. So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid? I mean if market is down, who is making any money? Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius. Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.
Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this? I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it. But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market. There doesn't seem to be any skill in it. Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting? Thanks.
Everyone can't loose money, when the market is down, we have other techniques add into trading just like the Margin Trading many traders many use of this aspects to make money while the Market is crashing. Anyways, with how much all the coins are dropping, is it even possible for any trader to make money on days or weeks like this? Im thinking its only possible if they make sure they sell it at the right hour and minute etc in order to profit. But of course if they are down almost all day, how is it even possible for anyone to make any money? Sure when the market goes back up in a while, and the price gets higher than they bought it at and now they sell, the profit. However, the same ppl who hold the coins will profit as well.
Because doesn't it seem like there is no skill involved at all it seems? Because if the market is down for a long time, what percentage of traders are even making any money when the market is down? Of course if you got a coin at like 10 cents a long time ago and then it went to 5 dollars... and now because of this.. its now down to say 1 dollar, well you are still up money if you sell it now. But the same ppl who got this coin probably got it at over 3 dollars and lost a huge percentage of its value.
So is it true almost everyone loses money when the market is down? And almost everyone makes money when the market is up? Because if btc goes up, the alts follow. BTC drops, everything follows. Its like there is zero skill at all almost. Such that yes when it goes up, some altcoins might go up higher than others. Also why do certain very good altcoins drop when btc drop if that project is very good etc? Yes i know you need btc to get that coin and vice versa but its like its either everyone wins or everyone loses.
So right now market is down a lot especially for those who bought not that long ago. So where is the skill here? Its basically when to sell and when to buy right? However, when market is down like this, who is damn making any money? Because isn't almost everyone losing money? The only ppl that i could see that likes this huge dip are those that have usd/usdt ready and picking when to buy. Of course they could have waited till btc was 8k and thought great i buy now or buy alts and each of these already lost a lot already.
Who is making any money now when the market is down? The ppl who are selling? Surely not since the price they sell now is much less than before. Also just curious but does this apply to stocks and forex trading as well? I know that well stock market goes up, doesn't almost all the stocks all go up it seems? The same can be said of forex or am i wrong here? I only know forex is money trading with different currencies etc. Because when you look at other things like poker or sportsbetting... someone is winning and someone is losing. Also to anyone that bets sports or knows about sports, you might hear how all the wise guys are losing money. Wise guys are sophisticated sharp bettors that are much smarter than your average joe. That average joe most likely bets very square picks... meaning like obvious public teams etc. However, the thing is the public does win. And when they do that, sportsbook would lose money. But usually they get it back and the average joe loses it back betting very public plays and the sophisticated bettors aka sharps win again. However, i heard of sharps having really bad seasons etc.
So based on that, doesn't it seem like crypto trading is basically everyone wins or everyone loses? Because in sportsbetting, yes the house does win and they house could also have a losing streak. But eventually they win back the average joes money. But if the average joe gets lucky and goes on a huge run whether betting favorites or underdogs or whatnot, its possible for him to win for a long time or lose for a long time. Also let say you have a few players who are sharp sportsbettors and a few average joes. Well if the sharp guys are winning, most likely the average joes are losing. If the sharp guys are losing, average joes are most likely winning. I say this because they usually play opposite plays most of the time. But no matter what, someone has to win. Whether its the sportsbook or the bettor. Also in sportsbetting, there is something called live betting where its like trading. Basically you can bet on either side while the game is going on when odds change always etc. But when you live bet, if one player bets this team while another player bets another team... remember each of these players are betting against the sportsbook, one player will win... the other loses. Thus that is where the skill comes in. So does anyone here feel like the market dictating winning or losing is just stupid? I mean if market is down, who is making any money? Its like ppl say when there is a bull market, everyone thinks they are a genius. Well if its a bull market, the only thing you have to think about is okay i will buy btc but should i exchange it for altcoin or not and which one.
Anyone here have thoughts or opinions on this? I got excited about cryptocurrency and trading and wanted to do it. But now when i look at it, its basically look at the market. There doesn't seem to be any skill in it. Can anyone here correct me with any of my statements especially if i made any especially in sportsbetting? Thanks.
In general - yes, some people make profit by shorting BTC, staking and masternodes rewards
All time trader can make profit but not by all trader on bullish market can make profit and on the same trader may make profit on bearish market. It depends on the coin you are taking. Buying at dip and selling at pick is a good strategy, it will never make you complain if the market is volatile as you can take advantage on it.
In general - yes, some people make profit by shorting BTC, staking and masternodes rewards
All time trader can make profit but not by all trader on bullish market can make profit and on the same trader may make profit on bearish market. It depends on the coin you are taking.
Not everyone some they might gain from satoshi but lost in USD value , that's why some traders want to cut their losses when it's triggered the closing point.
When the market goes down, everyone will lose money and that is not a problem because you can still hold it back when the market goes down.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
Not all loses the money if you are a margin trader. Not all is a normal trader or an altcoin trader here. Some here knows how to swing trades or even margin trades. Bull or bear market, you can take is us an opportunity and will still become profitable. Just collect what you need to learn and you'll doing well in trading.
Those who just invest their money and leave it untouched may have loss in the bear markets but those who have the skill to buy and sell at small intervals in the bear markets will always cover their losses there and would wait for the bull markets to make them have enough profits.
When the market goes down, everyone will lose money and that is not a problem because you can still hold it back when the market goes down.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
Not all loses the money if you are a margin trader. Not all is a normal trader or an altcoin trader here. Some here knows how to swing trades or even margin trades. Bull or bear market, you can take is us an opportunity and will still become profitable. Just collect what you need to learn and you'll doing well in trading.
Those who just invest their money and leave it untouched may have loss in the bear markets but those who have the skill to buy and sell at small intervals in the bear markets will always cover their losses there and would wait for the bull markets to make them have enough profits.
When the market goes down, everyone will lose money and that is not a problem because you can still hold it back when the market goes down.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
Not all loses the money if you are a margin trader. Not all is a normal trader or an altcoin trader here. Some here knows how to swing trades or even margin trades. Bull or bear market, you can take is us an opportunity and will still become profitable. Just collect what you need to learn and you'll doing well in trading.
I don't think that every people loses their money. because expert traders most of time earn their profit. but when market goes down people like us who have no such a good idea about trading most of time we lose. for us trading is just a earning source but for them it's much more that.
In down market the price movement exists too that become the reason traders also make profit here but it seems tough as compared slightly high prices. In the down market of Bitcoin the price when turned from 5800 US dollars to 6677 US dollars traders are activated by such price increase. Now they are in profit and want to hold it for next price rocketing boosts so as you make some more money. 
If you have not yet sold your coins, you have not yet lost, there is always a chance that the market will turn in your direction, but if you are desperate and sold the coin at a reduced price, then everything, you have a loss.
My friends also always told me about that. That is why i like trading more than gambling. Even sometime i play gambling games, trading make it different because i am not lose my assets if i am not cut loss it yet.
When the market goes down, everyone will lose money and that is not a problem because you can still hold it back when the market goes down.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
and only fools who sell it when prices go down, go down or go up in a market situation have become commonplace.
when the market goes down it is an opportunity to buy it then hold to wait for prices to rise again.
i admit a lost my money because of the bear market its really a tough time back 2018
but i am hoping not everyone has same faith like me
i am definitely not a pro yet but i can say this times adds up to experience
but i am hoping not everyone has same faith like me
i am definitely not a pro yet but i can say this times adds up to experience
not really, when the market goes down then some of them will hold coins that have been bought at high prices for long term investment and then they are confident to buy more to get a quick profit when there is bearish, because after all the market will recover this is only a cycle which has happened repeatedly
Long term holders are the only ones who survive the bear market. Many people do not have power to hold for long term and others just get panic to see the price crash and beginning to think it will be the end, so they panic sell and lose. Think of those who had not sell bitcoins when it dump from 6000$ to 3000$ and now it is back to 7000$ +. This is the power of holding in cryptocurrency.
Losses money when the market is down, I think it was just a normal things happen. Also not everybody(traders) here are losing their coins, because there are some long term holders and short term holders always remember that. And you can loss coins if you will become neglectful
whether the market is down or not.
whether the market is down or not.
Not everyone losses their money when the market is down dude. Why? it is because that there a short term and long term holders right?
The only trader who loss their coins/money is the one who didn't control their emotion, I guess. This was commonly happened in the actual trade.
The only trader who loss their coins/money is the one who didn't control their emotion, I guess. This was commonly happened in the actual trade.
Nope until the coins is in our hand in my opinion theres nothing to worry but then again always remember cryptocurrency volatile movement if ever bear market comes we need to be patience and for anothwr price rebond months or years. The is we how to avoid loses in crypto.
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