Topic: Evil of religion, and investment into IBB, Islamic Bitcoin Bank - page 6. (Read 8423 times)
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OP, your opinions are so misguided... go read a few up from a few un-bias sources 
The OP is completely clueless.
As Senbonzakura from IBB will certainly tell you, the mission of the IBB is to be in line with the principles of Sharia, that means free of usury.
IMO a very noble mission, and I certainly can support that.
As for religion invading the government: Don't make me laugh; just look at the current US presidential race, how some candidates pushing religious beliefs more than anything else? So who's a hypocrite?
As Senbonzakura from IBB will certainly tell you, the mission of the IBB is to be in line with the principles of Sharia, that means free of usury.
IMO a very noble mission, and I certainly can support that.
As for religion invading the government: Don't make me laugh; just look at the current US presidential race, how some candidates pushing religious beliefs more than anything else? So who's a hypocrite?
Islam is not evil and the IBB rocks big time. I'm a Pastafarian but the CEO of the IBB is one of the nicest and best people I've met in the bitcoin community.
Your clueless.
Freedom is freedom. Even the freedom for other "scary people" to do things you disagree with.
If you think religion is bad you convince people of that fact. If you can't then your freedom doesn't extend to forcing them to stop. It is a pretty simple concept. Compelling a change from the barrel of a gun isn't freedom.
LOLZ. Let me guess it won't be you that goes over there and comes back in a body bag right? Just someone else. I was that "someone else" in the US last grand crusade. Tell you what you enlist, infantry, and THEN advocate for a war with Iran knowing you will be on the front lines and your words may be more than just hypocritical nonsense.
Paragraphed:
"I believe in this strongly enough to get other people killed over it. Yes people may die but that is a sacrifice I prepared to make." - frisco2
Bitcoin is a currency. It has no moral compass. Even if we accept your premise that Islam is evil, Bitcoin has (or eventually will if successful enough) be used to fund/promote just about every evil thing imaginable. Violence, hate speech, human slavery, racial violence, child prostitution, terrorism, , organized crime, religious wars, drug cartels, hate crimes,illegal weapons sales, ransoms, piracy, etc. You name it if it is evil Bitcoin will eventually fund it.
Of course so has dollars.
I am not a Muslim and you don't offend me. You are just an idiot.
Freedom is freedom. Even the freedom for other "scary people" to do things you disagree with.
If you think religion is bad you convince people of that fact. If you can't then your freedom doesn't extend to forcing them to stop. It is a pretty simple concept. Compelling a change from the barrel of a gun isn't freedom.
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So as a person protecting freedom, I'm voting for a war against Iran, to dissolve the religious government.
LOLZ. Let me guess it won't be you that goes over there and comes back in a body bag right? Just someone else. I was that "someone else" in the US last grand crusade. Tell you what you enlist, infantry, and THEN advocate for a war with Iran knowing you will be on the front lines and your words may be more than just hypocritical nonsense.
Paragraphed:
"I believe in this strongly enough to get other people killed over it. Yes people may die but that is a sacrifice I prepared to make." - frisco2
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I hope that bitcoin will not be used to promote religion, or socialism, or altruism. If you think I'm crazy for saying that, please make sure that you are familiar with the links I posted.
Bitcoin is a currency. It has no moral compass. Even if we accept your premise that Islam is evil, Bitcoin has (or eventually will if successful enough) be used to fund/promote just about every evil thing imaginable. Violence, hate speech, human slavery, racial violence, child prostitution, terrorism, , organized crime, religious wars, drug cartels, hate crimes,illegal weapons sales, ransoms, piracy, etc. You name it if it is evil Bitcoin will eventually fund it.
Of course so has dollars.
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I know that there people who are very strongly subscribe to the Islamic dogma, and who get just as strongly offeneded if they hear anything against it. I'm sorry to offend you, but this is the truth.
I am not a Muslim and you don't offend me. You are just an idiot.
Hello Bitcoiners,
I see that people invest in IBB, which stands for Islamic Bitcoin Bank. I think it is the most hypocritical use of bitcoin. Allow me to explain.
Islam, just as any religion (Christianity or Judaism) it is evil at the core of its philosophy. However, Islam is the religion today that takes itself into the government of Iran, which puts guns in the hands of these religious people. If they didn't have guns, their philosophy will only hurt themselves, since it is irrational and has no semblance to reality (example: independence of thinking is bad, sex is bad, etc). So as a person protecting freedom, I'm voting for a war against Iran, to dissolve the religious government.
Bitcoiners talk a lot of free enterprise and freedom, and unrestrained capitalism. Iran, all the Muslim countries that are sympathetic to Iran, are not for free enterprise. They are today what Soviet Union was before it crashed.
Islam is not the only religion that took itself into the government. The most recent example is Shinto religion in Japan. After USA bombed Japan and it capitulated, USA told Japan that they can continue with Shinto, as long as it is separate of government.
I'd hate to see those who are fighting for freedom to be misinformed about the real cost of religion to this civilization. To find out more information about it and form your own opinion about this topic I recommend the following:
Milton Friedman's series on Capitalism:
http://www.freetochoose.tv/
Interview with Reza Khalili, an ex-CIA spy (Iranian double agent)
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2011-summer/reza-kahlili.asp
“Just War Theory” vs. American Self-Defense
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-spring/just-war-theory.asp
Richard Dawkins -- anything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMqTEfeqvmM
Ayn-Rand -- Capitalism the Unknown Ideal
http://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Unknown-Ideal-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451147952
I know what you are going to say, that whole purpose of bitcoin is to let people do with it whatever they want. That is true, I'm just giving you information that you may not seen. There is a lot of propaganda on both sides of the issue, and the only way to know who is right is to check your basic premises (knowledge).
If you are supporting Palestine, and that is your biggest motivation, here is a debate about it:
http://www.debate.org/debates/Israel-is-justified-in-attacking-gaza/2/
Our biggest problem today is not the absence of laissez-faire capitalism in USA and the world. Govt controls, and taxes is a symptom of the root sickness which is wrong assumptions about philosophy. It is a lot of work to untangle the mess we are in today, but if you see a hungry child in Africa or Gazza, or in a poor area of USA, and you want to help -- you have to understand the cause of the problem, to solve it. It is like if you find a bug in your code, you want to understand it, rather than adding a special case "if" at the point where it crashes.
I hope that bitcoin will not be used to promote religion, or socialism, or altruism. If you think I'm crazy for saying that, please make sure that you are familiar with the links I posted.
I know that there people who are very strongly subscribe to the Islamic dogma, and who get just as strongly offeneded if they hear anything against it. I'm sorry to offend you, but this is the truth.
Boris
I see that people invest in IBB, which stands for Islamic Bitcoin Bank. I think it is the most hypocritical use of bitcoin. Allow me to explain.
Islam, just as any religion (Christianity or Judaism) it is evil at the core of its philosophy. However, Islam is the religion today that takes itself into the government of Iran, which puts guns in the hands of these religious people. If they didn't have guns, their philosophy will only hurt themselves, since it is irrational and has no semblance to reality (example: independence of thinking is bad, sex is bad, etc). So as a person protecting freedom, I'm voting for a war against Iran, to dissolve the religious government.
Bitcoiners talk a lot of free enterprise and freedom, and unrestrained capitalism. Iran, all the Muslim countries that are sympathetic to Iran, are not for free enterprise. They are today what Soviet Union was before it crashed.
Islam is not the only religion that took itself into the government. The most recent example is Shinto religion in Japan. After USA bombed Japan and it capitulated, USA told Japan that they can continue with Shinto, as long as it is separate of government.
I'd hate to see those who are fighting for freedom to be misinformed about the real cost of religion to this civilization. To find out more information about it and form your own opinion about this topic I recommend the following:
Milton Friedman's series on Capitalism:
http://www.freetochoose.tv/
Interview with Reza Khalili, an ex-CIA spy (Iranian double agent)
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2011-summer/reza-kahlili.asp
“Just War Theory” vs. American Self-Defense
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-spring/just-war-theory.asp
Richard Dawkins -- anything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMqTEfeqvmM
Ayn-Rand -- Capitalism the Unknown Ideal
http://www.amazon.com/Capitalism-Unknown-Ideal-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451147952
I know what you are going to say, that whole purpose of bitcoin is to let people do with it whatever they want. That is true, I'm just giving you information that you may not seen. There is a lot of propaganda on both sides of the issue, and the only way to know who is right is to check your basic premises (knowledge).
If you are supporting Palestine, and that is your biggest motivation, here is a debate about it:
http://www.debate.org/debates/Israel-is-justified-in-attacking-gaza/2/
Our biggest problem today is not the absence of laissez-faire capitalism in USA and the world. Govt controls, and taxes is a symptom of the root sickness which is wrong assumptions about philosophy. It is a lot of work to untangle the mess we are in today, but if you see a hungry child in Africa or Gazza, or in a poor area of USA, and you want to help -- you have to understand the cause of the problem, to solve it. It is like if you find a bug in your code, you want to understand it, rather than adding a special case "if" at the point where it crashes.
I hope that bitcoin will not be used to promote religion, or socialism, or altruism. If you think I'm crazy for saying that, please make sure that you are familiar with the links I posted.
I know that there people who are very strongly subscribe to the Islamic dogma, and who get just as strongly offeneded if they hear anything against it. I'm sorry to offend you, but this is the truth.
Boris
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