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legendary
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Or 3rd option (most plausible imo). EvilPanda started as an honest forum member, but got too close in his cooperation with GAW miners, which initially and for quite a long time were seen as solid and trusted business. Then Josh Garza & Co. decided to do a weird stunt of launching their own shitcoin, which ended up badly, so they started play dirty to save themselves.
EP probably had to choose whether cut himself off and stay honest, or carry on and take money for shilling. He chose money, so f**k him for that.

That doesn't quite fit the timeline because paid shilling started way before Paycoin launch. Someone getting paid to shill and attack opponents - even if by a "solid and trusted business" - doesn't qualify as honest in my book.

Also I'm quite sure - although don't have any specific proof - that EvilPanda was and probably still is running a large network of puppets to profit from signature campaigns and his position as GAW sig campaign manager was a perfect gig for this.

Maybe you're right. I just pointed out, that there was other option.
I've remembered EP from Polish board and he seemed an OK guy back then, that's all.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Or 3rd option (most plausible imo). EvilPanda started as an honest forum member, but got too close in his cooperation with GAW miners, which initially and for quite a long time were seen as solid and trusted business. Then Josh Garza & Co. decided to do a weird stunt of launching their own shitcoin, which ended up badly, so they started play dirty to save themselves.
EP probably had to choose whether cut himself off and stay honest, or carry on and take money for shilling. He chose money, so f**k him for that.

That doesn't quite fit the timeline because paid shilling started way before Paycoin launch. Someone getting paid to shill and attack opponents - even if by a "solid and trusted business" - doesn't qualify as honest in my book.

Also I'm quite sure - although don't have any specific proof - that EvilPanda was and probably still is running a large network of puppets to profit from signature campaigns and his position as GAW sig campaign manager was a perfect gig for this.
legendary
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He was a qualified forum member to me before, it turns out he is also a scammer, All right, everyone here could be a scammer.

Pretty much everyone and or anyone yes.

Its why I trust a certain level, and people usually take abuse of their power once they got to be known on this forum which is damn shame.



Honestly there are two types with that scenario...

1) Someone buys an account that is well known to use it fraudulently or

2) Someone builds an account slowly to use it fraudulently.

...

Or 3rd option (most plausible imo). EvilPanda started as an honest forum member, but got too close in his cooperation with GAW miners, which initially and for quite a long time were seen as solid and trusted business. Then Josh Garza & Co. decided to do a weird stunt of launching their own shitcoin, which ended up badly, so they started play dirty to save themselves.
EP probably had to choose whether cut himself off and stay honest, or carry on and take money for shilling. He chose money, so f**k him for that.
legendary
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legendary
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Here is a perfect example of what can happen when DT members add the wrong people to their list!  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gaw-minersceo-321841  (Green trust??!!)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=321841 (Oh... Right...  Roll Eyes
legendary
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He was a qualified forum member to me before, it turns out he is also a scammer, All right, everyone here could be a scammer.

Pretty much everyone and or anyone yes.

Its why I trust a certain level, and people usually take abuse of their power once they got to be known on this forum which is damn shame.



Honestly there are two types with that scenario...

1) Someone buys an account that is well known to use it fraudulently or

2) Someone builds an account slowly to use it fraudulently.

#1 is far more common since con men/women don't want to put in that much effort and they're only really looking to make more btc then what they used to purchase the account... so figure .5 or so for the account and then anything scammed beyond that is "profit".

Recently I stumbled across one of the GAW shillpuppets (Snorek - not included the list below unfortunately), which reminded me to bump this thread.

It's quite amazing that some of these accounts are still alive today.


Well why wouldn't they?  This forum is very dangerous when it comes to trust since it can be bought.  The accounts may have even been sold off to unsuspecting newbie members looking for access to a signature campaign...
legendary
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Recently I stumbled across one of the GAW shillpuppets (Snorek - not included the list below unfortunately), which reminded me to bump this thread.

It's quite amazing that some of these accounts are still alive today.

Based on EvilPanda's e-mail here is a list of other Bitcointalk members or Panda's puppets involved in this shilling group:

Slark:
... and a few more examples.

bitgeek:
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005265

Snipe85:
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People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10013838

sr. member
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He was a qualified forum member to me before, it turns out he is also a scammer, All right, everyone here could be a scammer.

Pretty much everyone and or anyone yes.

Its why I trust a certain level, and people usually take abuse of their power once they got to be known on this forum which is damn shame.

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
scams hunter!
damn what a scammer.
GAW had this planned perfectly it seems
legendary
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This is worth a little bump. Now improved with links to each user's profile.

Based on EvilPanda's e-mail here is a list of other Bitcointalk members or Panda's puppets involved in this shilling group:

Slark:
... and a few more examples.

bitgeek:
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005265

Snipe85:
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People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10013838


someone from default trust needs to jump in. should be possible to get some of them out of their paid signature campaign, would be a nice backfire
hero member
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it seems the panda is gone..

legendary
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Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
This is worth a little bump. Now improved with links to each user's profile.

Based on EvilPanda's e-mail here is a list of other Bitcointalk members or Panda's puppets involved in this shilling group:

Slark:
... and a few more examples.

bitgeek:
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005265

Snipe85:
Quote
People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10013838

sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 260
The Scamcoats are coming!
The list of positively identified paid GAW shills here pretty much mirrors my ignore list for some odd reason.  Cheesy

There was a lot of conjecture that the annoying prick "Coldspirit" was Josh himself, and the last Email posted by PaidPiper (Thank You) detailing EP's GAW shill activity indicates that EP thought this as well. Mr. Coldspirit mysteriously stopped posting right around the time that GAW/Josh were served an SEC subpoena . Things that make you go Hmmmmm.

Nothing to date has transpired as promised.

Every deadline is met with a curve ball.

Verbal Ponzi scheme in play.

Promise upon promise and new promise there after.

Scam coin, scam company, scam operator.

END.

SCAM person hiding back on a nickname like yours.

It is like i saw yesterday on ecoining peercoin chat...

Someone speaking bad of GAW and paycoin and saying that he would want to create a coin, it would not be a scam coin, he said, just for fun!!

Right Paul?

I LOLED BIG TIME!! ahahhaha



Lie much?

Some random dude talking about creating a coin. Interesting to note that a creep like you is scanning chats looking for my name though.

Edit to add: Something else that is interesting is your choice of a screen name. "Cold Spirit"? Very fitting. But, I have to wonder, was "DirtyRottenLyingShillCreep" already taken, or what?

What a worthless fucking prick.

So many psychopath obsessed people here!

Obsession is a decease. You people are sick. Go speak with a doctor..!!
im exited about my decease Smiley.

are you related to josh?

Funny how your side is allowed to be the grammar police, but when I did it, I am called a "shrill". LOL.....

Yes that is true, but its a shrillex fuckbag at least when I call you a shrill.  Youd think a CEO would get someone better than a grade school art teacher in bitjane to proof read his posts for him before hitting submit, instead of running around cleaning up after himself.  Is it wrong to expect better ?  Not on HT and Twitter it seems.


hero member
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Based on EvilPanda's e-mail here is a list of other Bitcointalk members or Panda's puppets involved in this shilling group:

Slark:
... and a few more examples.

bitgeek:
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005265

Snipe85:
Quote
People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10013838


Don't forget to give these shills negative feedback everyone. Looks like they are all still active.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Based on EvilPanda's e-mail here is a list of other Bitcointalk members or Panda's puppets involved in this shilling group:

Slark:
... and a few more examples.

bitgeek:
We added some posts into the paycoin thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10005265

Snipe85:
Quote
People are asking in this thread how much GAW made on paycoin. Adding comments:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10013838
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Thank you Paid Piper, that's some good stuff.

sr. member
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Subject:    daily report
Date:    Wed, 17 Dec 2014 04:07:47 +0100
From:    EP <[email protected]>
To:    [email protected]

This guy is threatening to make a coindesk article about GAW stealing his coin name:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9860009


I finally got enough trust to impact people's feedback. This guy is now shiny red Smiley
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/iizceo-372203



I also reported this person to the admins and i heard he got 14 day ban. He made 2 other fake accounts immediately, i'll report these too and see what happens.

His old profile:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dekay-402106
New one (probably also got banned):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dekay2wasban-403502

Another one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/antigawdonkeykongdk-403538


One of our guys advertises paycoin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9861114


Not sure how to react to such feedback:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9862090


So finally see you guys are right. I haven't seen much transparency, and even invested a ton into gaw. So I tweeted josh about putting buy support up, and also buying logically, $10 coins on exchange now, instead of $20 dollar coins later. He said so he can increase price of paycoin for people buying?
HUH, I was like what, where is logic there. People dumping now are just cheap coins for gaw to take off market now, instead of paying out $20 from paybase later.
Unbelieveable, I ask few more questions nicely, even stating I'm investor, and that I have concerns, and if 100 million dollars of support, why not use some for exchange?
THE BASTARD BLOCKS ME ON TWITTER! For asking legit questions. Concerns.
I'm dumping everything gaw, asap. Unfortunately this weasel has convinced us all to lock our zens up into hashstakers so i cannot even sell anything or exchange paycoins.
HELP, what do i do to get out of this nightmare.

Our response:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-josh-garza-discussion-paycoin-xpy-xpyio-ion-ionomy-always-make-money-857670



Stay cool man and don't act in haste. Don't make irrational decisions. Depending on how this thing pans out, you will likely be able to get your money back and then some. Just start unwinding AS SOON as you have the chance. If a lot of $ is locked up on hashstakers, call them directly and kick up a shit storm. I imagine they will wilt eventually and give you your money back.

Good advice. Don't make hasty decissions based on how you were treated on a forum or a social media site. If he doesn't want to talk to you it's a personal thing between you and him. He doesn't have to respond to your concerns on his twitter.

As an investor this is not a way to treat people. Doesn't mean he has to answer me on twitter, but to block me is showing lack of concern for investors. I'm done with gawminers, and their bullshit. They don't have a mining farm, they have a storage locker full of asics, that's about it.

I'm not sure but this guy sounds a lot like you Smiley If it is you, you've already read that post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coldspirit-367365


Some of our other posts in the thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-josh-garza-discussion-paycoin-xpy-xpyio-ion-ionomy-always-make-money-857670


A hater is asking the OP of a thread about cloud companies to clasify GAW as ponzi, the OP didn't agree.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9862495


Another attack that was responded to.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9862787


Quote from: edward_cullen on December 16, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
I'm very skeptical, GAW has been involved in fishy things in the past.
Care to elaborate? What were those "fishy things"?

And another one
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9862699
sr. member
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Subject:    daily report
Date:    Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:52:27 +0200
From:    EP <[email protected]>
To:    [email protected]

Updated the price sheet today (checked all the listed stores)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12GrBxMVpVEFa0gbbRGka3spDhtPWrFzcPVmV1eYIex0/pubhtml


Most of your prices are the lowest, youre tied with zoomhash on A2 mini and A2.
They have cheaper 1.3 and 27Mh units.

Also updated my Panda Pay sheet (have 2.6BTC left of campaign funds, I'll need ~1.5BTC to run it till the end of July, and then another ~4BTC if we continue in August)
We have 80 people posting with our sig on bitcointalk.


GAW
I managed to make moon look like an idiot here Smiley nobody supports his claims.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641856.new#new

All these troll accounts got warnings from mod, we agreed if he manages to make them stop writing shit i'll pay him.
The only thing he won't do is deleting the thread, so we have to wait and see.
If the trolls get shut down there's only moon left but he's not sane, so the more he talks the worse for him. Nobody will take him seriously.
You just keep your services on the highest level to prevent more whiners from supporting moon Smiley

Zoomhash
Big negative comment, also mentioning Zeus
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636015.20


Unfortunately, I no longer have any hardware in my possession from ZoomHash. I returned all of the hardware and was only refunded the amount of money I paid. No compensation for anything else was done.
Well, they do like to point out that they let me keep the 2 power adapters that I told them I had no use for and I wanted to return.
I'm really curious, because at no point during my conversations with ZoomHash did they ever question my technical skills until I posted openly on Reddit that the blades had one DOA each time. That was when they decided to inform me for the first time that their technician assured them that all the blades I said were broken were actually okay.
Prior to that experience I had provided them with samples of my .bat files and samples of my .config files. I had attempted using cgminer and bfgminer with the blades. I tried multiple cables, multiple computers, and multiple pools. I even bought brand new cables and a brand new USB hub because I wanted to definitely make sure they were DOA. I kept screenshots and I wrote down the serial numbers of the boards that I received. When I asked for ZoomHash to provide equivalent screenshots proving that they weren't DOA; ZoomHash was unable to locate any of this information and tried to make it sound like they hadn't just tried to throw me under the bus.
While the company did refund me the total amount of money I spent with them; they are not offering any form of additional compensation.
I understand your argument that they are under no obligation to provide further compensation to me; but ZoomHash made my life a living hell for weeks. I was willing to chalk it up to live and learn, until they decided to claim that the boards were suddenly working and I was at fault. I just want them to come out and say that they will not be providing me with further compensation because of my issues. That they will not honor the promotion they had on May 5th which stated "Batch 13 Guaranteed in 10 Days or Free", and they still believe that they are under no obligation to provide compensation to those customers who loyally pre-ordered Zeus miners with them.
In regards to the Zeus miner pre-order fuck up. There is a post on Reddit from their own staff stating that they did not receive the units in time. Then the company sent out an email regarding the "power issues", which was a shady attempt for them to try and shift the blame for their failure to obtain the miners in time.
It's fine if they don't believe they owe me any actual form of compensation beyond returning me my own money. I would just like them to publicly state it, if that's what they truly believe.

Hashra
People whining on their customer service and lack of responses.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7416327
legendary
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I am been approached by several well-respected members of the community with questions about the positive trust rating that I gave EvilPanda.

Let me first explain that my only interaction with EP was with the GAW signature campaign that he was the manager.  I signed up for the campaign in ~April of 2014.  The campaign was paying competitive at the time.  GAW at that time was a seller/reseller of Scrypt mining equipment.  I was paid for posting 50(?) constructive posts per month with a GAW miners signature in my profile box.

I was never told to post only positive posts about GAW.  I was able to post anything that was deemed constructive to the thread.  '+1', 'lol', "haha", ect didn't count.

When GAW created the 'hashlet' in August 2014, I purchased a few just to play around with them to see what they were all about.  I was never given any for my position in the campaign.  Once you had to sign in every 12 hours to get the 'double bonus' and 'mutiple pool' mining, I sold the hashlets.  I left the campaign around the same time because it was becoming clear that something was amiss.  I was not involved in anything Paycoin other than reading Suchmoon's thread about it.  It was clear Paycoin was terrible based upon the joke of a 'whitepaper'.

I stopped following the GAW story after the Miami conference when Josh failed to appear for the Q&A and was hardly even there.  The first that I heard about EP being a paid shill for GAW was when several well-respected members of the community reached out to me about positive trust.

Back to the EvilPanda trust.  Over the course of several months of the campaign, there were several minor issues with payment and post counts.  I exchanged PMs with EP to address the issues and all were resolved.  I gave EP positive trust on 2 different dates based upon him paying me the agreed amount for the agreed work.  That is all.  I am hesitant to remove this feedback because it is based on transactions that were done in the past and were positive in their outcome.
full member
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I don't think there is any doubt about e-mails. No one could possibly fake gigabytes of e-mails with such convincing details, matching known facts and with DKIM headers too.

And thank you for adding your trust rating too.
Do you know where we can find those gigabytes of emails? I'm interested in seeing more in this story plus seeing the email headers as well.

It's a shame he was in on the GAW scam, he seemed like a really solid campaign manager and a trustworthy guy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11099833

I've got all the torrents, plus mega direct download mirrors for all files.
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