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jr. member
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February 12, 2024, 01:00:33 PM
#6
I'm a bit confused about what you trying to say but Bitcoin will never become centralized because Satoshi made Bitcoin for decentralization.

If the fees are rising it's just temporary there is something going on that is why you see transaction fees rise just like today because the price touched above $50k that is why people right now panic to move their BTC to the exchange before it drops and make a profit.

Mining is the decentralization mechanism. My implication is that, if only big players have sufficient capital to bribe miners with transaction fees, then the peer-to-peer aspect of the network could be effectively undermined (no pun intended). I recall this same thing happened in 2017, so it appears to be a recurring issue.

What about people with only small portions of bitcoin, that end up being stuck, because transaction fee exceeds total value?

What will happen when only large institutions can afford to use Bitcoin's blockchain, due to rising fees? Won't this centralize the network if most can only trade bitcoin on centralized exchanges?
I guess bitcoin developers will not let it get to that point. Also there are layer 2 solutions like lightning network and liquid network. Bitcoin network to become centralized has nothing to do with the transaction fee. You can hold small amount using lightning network or liquid network and hold huge amount on the blockchain.

LN is a hub-and-spoke design which inherently promotes centralization, just like a major airport. As channels grow increasingly popular, they begin to look more and more like a bank, at least in my eyes.

From the look of things right now, Bitcoin is progressing when it comes to fees. During late periods of last year to very early this year, Bitcoin fees were drastically high due to conjestions caused by ordinals.
However as I type, Bitcoin fees have come so low to an average of about 24sat/byte for normal fees which would arrive between periods of an hour to 30 minutes.

What will happen when only large institutions can afford to use Bitcoin's blockchain, due to rising fees? Won't this centralize the network if most can only trade bitcoin on centralized exchanges?

If the network is conjested, fees on centralized exchanges will also increase. So theoretically they still can't control transaction rates since miners are the ones who confirm transactions not exchanges although some large exchanges have mining pools for faster confirmation.

"Some large exchanges have mining pools for faster confirmation"

This is exactly the type of centralization I'm voicing concern about. Isn't there an obvious conflict of interest if CEX's use in-house mining pools to add their own txs to the blockchain? What happens when these exchanges form a consortia? This work-around doesn't seem to lead us down a sustainable path...
legendary
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February 12, 2024, 12:57:05 PM
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What will happen when only large institutions can afford to use Bitcoin's blockchain, due to rising fees? Won't this centralize the network if most can only trade bitcoin on centralized exchanges?
I guess bitcoin developers will not let it get to that point. Also there are layer 2 solutions like lightning network and liquid network. Bitcoin network to become centralized has nothing to do with the transaction fee. You can hold small amount using lightning network or liquid network and hold huge amount on the blockchain.
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February 12, 2024, 12:51:18 PM
#4
Fees have dropped earlier today to the lowest range we have seen in the recent months and the mempool is not as clogged as it was. No current situation suggests that rising fees would make it impossible for regular people to transact, this would be a problem for several decades down the line when mining rewards is majorly transaction fees and miners need to charge an amount that would cover their cost of mining.

There are several solutions that exists to fix the fees problem and more would be implemented down the road. One of them is off chain transations, this should become more popular and attract more users, taking much of the load off on-chain transactions.
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February 12, 2024, 12:51:00 PM
#3
I'm a bit confused about what you trying to say but Bitcoin will never become centralized because Satoshi made Bitcoin for decentralization.

If the fees are rising it's just temporary there is something going on that is why you see transaction fees rise just like today because the price touched above $50k that is why people right now panic to move their BTC to the exchange before it drops and make a profit.
sr. member
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February 12, 2024, 12:48:34 PM
#2
 From the look of things right now, Bitcoin is progressing when it comes to fees. During late periods of last year to very early this year, Bitcoin fees were drastically high due to conjestions caused by ordinals.
However as I type, Bitcoin fees have come so low to an average of about 24sat/byte for normal fees which would arrive between periods of an hour to 30 minutes.

What will happen when only large institutions can afford to use Bitcoin's blockchain, due to rising fees? Won't this centralize the network if most can only trade bitcoin on centralized exchanges?

If the network is conjested, fees on centralized exchanges will also increase. So theoretically they still can't control transaction rates since miners are the ones who confirm transactions not exchanges although some large exchanges have mining pools for faster confirmation.
jr. member
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February 12, 2024, 12:40:27 PM
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What will happen when only large institutions can afford to use Bitcoin's blockchain, due to rising fees? Won't this centralize the network if most can only trade bitcoin on centralized exchanges?
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