Topic: Exchange accidentally sent 512 bitcoins after coding error - page 18. (Read 35512 times)

Perhaps, but that information is not yet publicated.  So, I'm working on finding out also.

I can't wait to see what my lawyer says!

It's situations like this where the Community as a whole need to get involved and help the situation in a positive fasion any way they can.

1) All Mining Pool Operators should band together and maintain a SCAMMER IP BLACKLIST to keep people like this OUT of the Community and left mining Solo.

2) All Exchanges should also support this and BAN the receiver of the mistakenly sent funds so that they can not process or redeem them for actuall currency.

3) With the Proof provided, THIS FORUM in particular should remove the user and BAN for life due to Morality problems with said User.

4) Any and All information about the individual in question should be made available to the public along with the offense.

Bitcoin - the decentralized freedom cryptocurrency THAT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF AN OFFICIAL GOVERNING BODY.

Other than knowingly benefitting from another Community Member's mistake during work to better the community - WHAT HAS THIS USER DONE FOR BITCOIN ?

Lastly, for every 20 panhandling losers asking for donations on this forum - there seems to be one who actually deserves it. This is one of those cases.

It's time for THE COMMUNITY to pull together and show that it is in fact a community.

I've always wondered what kind of price tag one might put on their dignity....and now I know: 511 BTC

egold doesn't have any value until you exchange it either but that didn't stop the Justice Dept and the Treasury from going after them.

Did you miss my post citing


from the OR laws I linked to earlier?

Let me translate that:

You are a person. You came into control of property of another that you know to have been delivered under a mistake. You have committed theft, if, with intent to deprive the owner thereof, you failed to take reasonable measures to restore that property to the owner.

What matters isn't you acting like badass on the internet, it's the law in your jurisdiction. And it puts you solidly in the wrong, regardless of any of your weak counterarguments.

I see where you are going with this.  Good point.

The tort of conversion does not require that you took it, only that you deprived the rightful owner of it.  So, it gets you off the hook for theft, in the sense you aren't liable in the same way as say had you gone into his house and stolen them from him.  But you are liable to him for the tort he suffers by you depriving him of it, which may very well include his legal costs in pursuing its return.

Remember the iPhone lost in a bar?  If your assumption is correct, Gizmodo should have been able to tell Apple, "Sorry, finder's keepers".  But of course, that's not the way it works in California, and that's not the way it works in Oregon either.

Hopefully for you, you're still anonymous.  If your identity is known, this is gonna bite ya in the ass one way or another!  Hopefully you got an extra $10k on top of the 511 BTC you stole to pay for his AND your attorney if and when it finally gets settled.  Best return it now.

Did you miss this part?

"Also, here's the Oregon law on the matter: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/164.html

I'll quote the relevant section (164.015):
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     (2) Commits theft of property lost, mislaid or delivered by mistake as provided in ORS 164.065;"


... thats what you did.

Please tell me the current value of 1 oz of gold, and what you did to get to that value.

Stop being a detective pussy lmfaooo he already has my name, where I work, where I live, pictures of me, so stop being a little bitch and being a detective lmfaoooo you my friend, are a pussy.

Again, bad analogy.  Gold has tremendous value on its own.  Bit coin data has no value.

But yeah ... talking to lawyer lol hold up I will be back

The thing is. The judge will ask not you. The judge will ask an expert witness, probably invited by claimant. The expert will pull out mobile phone check current mtgox rate and say "As of this moment this day and this month of year 2012, based on current exchange rate on leading exchange, which is 356.33 $ per 1 BTC, fair market value of 512 BTC can be estimated as USD182440.96".

Numbers could vary, but you got the idea.

finished updating, feel free to continue this elsewhere such as wiki, maybe ED?



From already public informations, here's information that I found:

aliases: BatumKaboom⁷, BenDavis (IRC), BenDavis503⁷, benjohnson503¹⁴, bennydavis⁵, Bills_Fan_503⁰, Dante_Cunningham⁷, DLowDAOG⁴, neBo503³, Patty_Mills⁷, Tyler_Hansborough⁷
location: Newberg¹, Oregon, US (From IRC: 50-39-204-35.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net (Portland, Oregon))
age: 30^1,6 (born: 9/11/1980)^8,12

accounts:
aim: neBo503^11,13
email: [email protected]¹³
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myspace: http://www.myspace.com/42020322¹⁴
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sidekick: [email protected]¹³

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sources:
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¹ http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=12173091 (Google search BenDavis Newberg Oregon)
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³ http://www.bitcoinpool.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=767
⁴ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.500160
⁵ http://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/forum/members/nebo503.html (Google search neBo503)
⁶ http://www.xfire.com/profile/nebo503/ (Google search neBo503)
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⁹ Google Images search BenDavis503
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¹⁴ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.501565

Again, can you explain how I am a thief, when I wake up and there are 511 BTC in my wallet?  Elaborate.  I do not see how that means theft.

Not that that's an excuse that any judge would buy.  If it were, you could steal gold and claim the same thing.  But yeah, please do let us know what your lawyer says.

LOL congrats super citizen!  But again, when I wake up and there are 511 BTC in my wallet, how did I take them?  Can you please explain where I took anything?

Pretty sure it'd be hard to back up, seeing as how it's already documented that you've mined for them, proving that you already think they're of some value (time invested, power spent, etc).  And if you have a record that can be traced back to an Exchange (as in, you've already traded them for currency)... hard to claim you think they're 'worthless' and have 'no value'.

The victim has all the necessary information (including where the thief lives) to file a police report. I'm not sure it'd be kosher to publish it on a public forum, though. Lots of crazies around here

lol another TERRIBLE analogy.  The TV is not 'digital data' - the TV is worth something.  You do not have to take a TV to an exchange and trade it for currency.  It already has worth.

Anyways, again, I am talking to my lawyer right now.

That is not true.  They have an easily established value.  All of this talk about "a judge won't recognize these as having value" is complete nonsense.  Absolutely certain of it.

Not only that, but with the way you are brazenly shirking this, the person who may very likely be liable for the lawyer fees in the end is the clown who took the 511 BTC he wasn't entitled to and who claims he "OWNS" them.

Patrick, FYI, I have saved this entire thread to a PDF file, just in case mr. DAOG realizes that deleting his own posts is a wise idea.  I am in the US and am able to produce an affidavit in support of your complaint against this guy, assuming you can identify him, in support of the fact that bitcoins have value and such questions that would be asked by the authorities in Oregon.