Experience is needed before one can gist/talk about gambling - page 2.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Although I do not think it compulsory for one to have personal gambling experience but for one to be able to have a conversation with others who do gamble, there must have been research on the topic, there must be some understanding of the rules and techniques involved in gambling, there must be knowledge of the gambling industries recent trends, statistics and upgrades, there must also be the knowledge of responsible gambling practices and all the potential risks involved with it.

I believe someone always has to start somewhere so I do understand if someone who has never really gambled share their opinions and weigh in on the discussion but at the same time they should definitely disclose that they’ve never experienced gambling and that they are only there to learn.

I also think that nothing can beat the knowledge of someone who has first hand experience when it comes to gambling or casinos.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Although I do not think it compulsory for one to have personal gambling experience but for one to be able to have a conversation with others who do gamble, there must have been research on the topic, there must be some understanding of the rules and techniques involved in gambling, there must be knowledge of the gambling industries recent trends, statistics and upgrades, there must also be the knowledge of responsible gambling practices and all the potential risks involved with it.

This applies not only to gambling, and if you decide to discuss politics or economics, you need to be well versed in this issue, otherwise you will look like an idiot. In this case, theory will not be able to replace the knowledge gained as a result of practical play.

Yeah, and I think you can spot a non-gambler if you talk to him about our own experiences. Personally if I hear one, I just walk away because I know that what he is saying is not true at all and obviously, he is just making it up.

Well you can speak better or explain yourself something if you have experience under your belt instead of just reading it let's say or just one person telling you the story. At least with experience, you can relate to even a person that you don't know but also has a lot of gambling experience in online or off-line and that is a good deal breaker. So again, this is just me, but it's better to go and experience it first hand before you talk to someone here in this forum's board or outside.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on December 26, 2024, 12:44:03 PM

Just because they had experience in Gambling doesn't mean they are the right person to represent Gambling then it would be parade of gambling addicts.

As long as you have experienced with gambling you should be able to atleast contribute to a discussion in one way or another, I know the the level of knowledge varies while some might be very vast in gambling knowledge some might just have only surface level knowledge but still they should be able to contribute.

I think (just an assumption here) the Op isn’t really referring to deep gambling discussions - because if that’s what he’s referring to then I’d with your point about experience in gambling not being enough for one to have concrete contributions to discussion - some gamblers literally just go to their accounts select a few games and leave till they have another deposit to make. This type won’t be able to give good gist about gambling.

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Hmm yes sometimes I also often find people who talk or tell stories about gambling but on the other hand everything they say seems unreasonable to me, anyone must understand what I mean because usually someone will definitely not be able to explain something in detail when they have never tried the activity at all, but yes actually it doesn't matter because after all everyone is free to express their opinion even though they tell something they have never done/experienced.

For me when the person does not harm me at all in various ways then I will also still listen to him but maybe not take it too seriously, to be honest I am not saying that I am very experienced in gambling, but to be honest I am one of the gamblers who have indeed been trapped in a cycle of addiction before so I know enough about how gambling really is especially in terms of its impact when you treat it the wrong way.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Although I do not think it compulsory for one to have personal gambling experience but for one to be able to have a conversation with others who do gamble, there must have been research on the topic, there must be some understanding of the rules and techniques involved in gambling, there must be knowledge of the gambling industries recent trends, statistics and upgrades, there must also be the knowledge of responsible gambling practices and all the potential risks involved with it.

This applies not only to gambling, and if you decide to discuss politics or economics, you need to be well versed in this issue, otherwise you will look like an idiot. In this case, theory will not be able to replace the knowledge gained as a result of practical play.

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Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

A situation I see frequently when people talk about gambling is that they claim it's possible to make consistent profit from it. I tell them it's not possible, but they insist the opposite. Then I keep quiet and let them talk about their awesome winning experiences. People also believe there are safe strategies to gamble, like placing huge bets with small odds.

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

There are many such gamblers where they like to brag about their winnings and say that they have a certain strategy that they usually use to achieve consistent profits from gambling. This is actually a deception, and from his story alone we already know that he is nothing more than an ordinary gambler and his story is too exaggerated. That is why the importance of a person's experience in gambling, so that they are not only able to discuss gambling well, but also can spot a lie or other misleading things said by other gamblers.

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Just because they had experience in Gambling doesn't mean they are the right person to represent Gambling then it would be parade of gambling addicts. If there's a debate rise about Gambling then one who has the absolute knowledge of what and why is Gambling even if they chose to not gamble currently, because they know how to gamble and not to chase loss. And if we want to talk about stats then it's going to be really good because people usually assume things they heard from someone.

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Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

A situation I see frequently when people talk about gambling is that they claim it's possible to make consistent profit from it. I tell them it's not possible, but they insist the opposite. Then I keep quiet and let them talk about their awesome winning experiences. People also believe there are safe strategies to gamble, like placing huge bets with small odds.

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

This is probably the safest way to be able to tell apart those that understand gambling from those that do not, after all it is easy to imagine there is a way to beat the house and obtain some easy money out of it, but the reality is very different from what they can imagine, since if it was as easy to make money out of casinos, then it is clear that most casinos would have gone bankrupt already, while the reality we have right in front of us points directly to the opposite conclusion as casinos are making more money than ever.

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I don’t think that experience is needed to talk about gambling. You don’t know how to fly a plane, but still you talk about the flying experience of pilots, right? As we don’t have the option to practically do the task, hence we acquire the theoretical knowledge about it. According to me, this is enough for someone to speak about a topic that is here, “Gambling.” Of course the one with experience can discuss with more depth, but the ones that don’t have experience cannot be left out.

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I don't think if this should be applicable in the sport bets because there are sport fans who are better of statistics and analytical on the sport events who does not gamble.
So I think such category of persons could be involved in a sport bets even as non bettor since the discussion is basically on experience discussion about the game.

If you also think that non gamblers should not get involved on gambling discussions that means a gambler who is surrounded with non gamblers as relations should play adamant and ignore relatives who advices a gambling addict.

I just think gambling is a social active that anyone can get involved in to play and also on it discussion

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Quote from: mirakal on December 26, 2024, 10:05:49 AM

Most of the time, we can observe that experienced gamblers think that they are better and more knowledgeable. Of course, we can't deny that they already gain more knowledge, but having an opinion from beginners could also help, not in a way they could teach us but for us to know their sentiment and level of understanding. Maybe in return, we could help them improve and correct their mistakes.

The discussion is not about who is good at gambling but rather an exchange of ideas and opinions. If we think he/she is right, then we also acknowledge it rather than pushing ourselves that we know everything.

There's a concept called "learning on the job," where you can gain knowledge and skills as you progress. This applies to various areas, including gambling. While experienced gamblers have an edge due to their accumulated knowledge and experiences, newcomers can also contribute and learn.

It's important to recognize that everyone, regardless of their experience level, can share valuable insights and ideas. Newbies can learn from experienced gamblers, and in return, experienced gamblers can refine their strategies by considering fresh perspectives.

This is why I appreciate this forums, which provide a platform for people of all experience levels to share, learn, and grow. You can contribute on threads, receive feedback, and improve.
Whether you're a newbie or an experienced gambler, there's always room to learn and grow. To continually refine your strategies, improve and become a better gambler.

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Quote from: crwth on December 26, 2024, 07:47:49 AM

Why would you even talk about it if you know nothing about it? I believe that's a problem for people who don't know what they are discussing. They push themselves to let others see that they are knowledgeable about something, but when it comes to application, they don't know what they are doing.

It's for fulfill gambling quota post, you know many gambling signature campaigns have requirement to post in gambling board for x posts in a week to eligible for the reward. Although @OP stated a good point that people should become gambler if they want to talk about gambling, but this raise a question whether @OP is a gambler or not since he mostly talk about general or common thing about gambling instead of discussing the players/teams/sports or technicals.

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Quote from: crwth on December 26, 2024, 07:47:49 AM

Why would you even talk about it if you know nothing about it? I believe that's a problem for people who don't know what they are discussing. They push themselves to let others see that they are knowledgeable about something, but when it comes to application, they don't know what they are doing.

It's like researching and not knowing what to do with the knowledge. I think it's important to have that firsthand experience if you advise someone, but if you are just going to talk about it, I think it's okay. It would depend on how the conversation goes, like if they are going to be talking because that person is interested in learning.

The important thing at the end of the day is that people understand the positioning that they have, whether it's about experience or not, that gambling can be addicting and it needs to be controlled.

Most of the time, we can observe that experienced gamblers think that they are better and more knowledgeable. Of course, we can't deny that they already gain more knowledge, but having an opinion from beginners could also help, not in a way they could teach us but for us to know their sentiment and level of understanding. Maybe in return, we could help them improve and correct their mistakes.

The discussion is not about who is good at gambling but rather an exchange of ideas and opinions. If we think he/she is right, then we also acknowledge it rather than pushing ourselves that we know everything.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

I think that when one has a prior gambling experience somehow, it qualifies such a one to openly gist/talk about it and even share strategies that may be accepted and logical enough.

You don't have to be an expert. Its very common among gamblers to discuss strategies in gambling. I used to shares my bets on my comrades in horseracing, You will learn a lot doing this; there are methods that you do not know and you have methods that you know and sharing each other's tips will help you to compile your bets for a better chances to win, The most important thing is to be open-minded and do not act as someone who is better than the other gamblers

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Why would you even talk about it if you know nothing about it? I believe that's a problem for people who don't know what they are discussing. They push themselves to let others see that they are knowledgeable about something, but when it comes to application, they don't know what they are doing.

It's like researching and not knowing what to do with the knowledge. I think it's important to have that firsthand experience if you advise someone, but if you are just going to talk about it, I think it's okay. It would depend on how the conversation goes, like if they are going to be talking because that person is interested in learning.

The important thing at the end of the day is that people understand the positioning that they have, whether it's about experience or not, that gambling can be addicting and it needs to be controlled.

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Quote from: traderethereum on December 26, 2024, 07:38:49 AM

What @OP say is right so we talk about gambling and gets more knowledge about something that we don't know. We can also share with them about many things we know so we can learn each others. But it is no problem if some people wants to tell their story to other people especially if they don't know if others are more expert than them. If they know other people are expert than them, they can ask for suggestion related to gambling and usually, others will tell them what they know. Having gambling experience helps someone to share what their experienced before including their mistake so other can learn from their mistake and avoids it.

Makes me dizzy trying to understand your post since it sounds like a loop from start to finish. The only point here is that it’s very hard to discuss gambling related topic to someone that doesn’t have an actual experience since all the info he can share just pure theory without any application of actual experience which is important since there’s a lot of psychological factor that can affect gambler when playing an actual gambling games.

Although most of the discussion here in the forum gambling board is more on objective topic that’s why it’s easy to join the discussion even without experience by making up some gambling stories since no one can verify whether you are telling the truth or not.

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What @OP say is right so we talk about gambling and gets more knowledge about something that we don't know. We can also share with them about many things we know so we can learn each others. But it is no problem if some people wants to tell their story to other people especially if they don't know if others are more expert than them. If they know other people are expert than them, they can ask for suggestion related to gambling and usually, others will tell them what they know. Having gambling experience helps someone to share what their experienced before including their mistake so other can learn from their mistake and avoids it.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

I think that when one has a prior gambling experience somehow, it qualifies such a one to openly gist/talk about it and even share strategies that may be accepted and logical enough.

Your opinion is welcomed!

When discussing gambling experience, it should come from the heart and experience to fully understand the feeling and what the person has gone through on his topic, like chasing profit, taking a loan to gamble, and gambling beyond the mean and various methods that gamblers are using and their mindset.
You have to be in the same shoes to understand the topic being presented.
Emotions are very much involved in gambling, and the things that gave us the most headache are the ones that we can relate to.

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Sometimes people can hold a conversation about gambling without really having any experience but show themselves as a person ready to give advice and even teach. But practice shows that behind the braggarts there is often a person who either has a negative experience of games or has none at all. The same can be said about people who usually gamble, considering themselves experienced players, but there will always be someone more experienced than them. Based on this, it would be reasonable to learn from people, be more interested, and gain knowledge than to teach someone, especially if you are not lucky. Our time implies endless learning, since everything changes so quickly that you must keep up with new technologies.

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Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

A situation I see frequently when people talk about gambling is that they claim it's possible to make consistent profit from it. I tell them it's not possible, but they insist the opposite. Then I keep quiet and let them talk about their awesome winning experiences. People also believe there are safe strategies to gamble, like placing huge bets with small odds.

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

You are right, mate, gambling does not provide a consistent profit nor a quick way to get rich. I saw people who won only a small amount of money from gambling, and they started resigning from their jobs. How stupid are they? Mostly, those people who lack knowledge about gambling take such steps. I saw some guys sitting beside me playing crash games on mobile and were very happy when they made money on each bet. They made some money and were happy, but I told them not to be so joyful and to transfer their winnings to their bank account. However, in their greed and joy, they ignored my suggestion, and after 30 minutes, they were not happy, they lost their entire funds. They told me that they had been playing this game since yesterday and had set their minds to quit their jobs because they thought gambling was an easier way to make a lot of money. So this was their case, and in the end, they believed that, yes, gambling does not provide us with a monthly salary, instead they can make money when they have job which can help them.

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