Experience is needed before one can gist/talk about gambling - page 3.

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Quote from: Kelward on December 26, 2024, 01:18:39 AM

You can't give what you don't have so you can't discuss or give meaningful advice about gambling if you don't know about it. Being a member of this forum and being active in this gambling discussion board have broadened my view about gambling and I can talk about the merits and demerits of gambling to anybody and in any forum. With my experience in gambling I know that it's important for people that are coming into gambling to understand responsible gambling so that they will escape addiction which comes with irresponsible gambling. It's easy to become addicted without knowing how you got there, by not knowing the dangers of chasing loses and believing that you can make a living in gambling.

I still believe that there can be some value in the "fresh" perspective of the newbie who talks about his experience in a way most of us have forgotten long time ago. But you're right that it is usually much more valuable to read experienced members of the forum talk about trends, rules, theories, underlying mechanisms, etc. rather than some not significant enough random stories.

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You can't give what you don't have so you can't discuss or give meaningful advice about gambling if you don't know about it. Being a member of this forum and being active in this gambling discussion board have broadened my view about gambling and I can talk about the merits and demerits of gambling to anybody and in any forum. With my experience in gambling I know that it's important for people that are coming into gambling to understand responsible gambling so that they will escape addiction which comes with irresponsible gambling. It's easy to become addicted without knowing how you got there, by not knowing the dangers of chasing loses and believing that you can make a living in gambling.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Although I do not think it compulsory for one to have personal gambling experience but for one to be able to have a conversation with others who do gamble, there must have been research on the topic, there must be some understanding of the rules and techniques involved in gambling, there must be knowledge of the gambling industries recent trends, statistics and upgrades, there must also be the knowledge of responsible gambling practices and all the potential risks involved with it.

OK, that's easy. Merely read a few articles about gambling and THAT in your opinion would make people have your "stamp of approval" to post about gambling in BitcoinTalk?

Or are you telling us that there should be some more?

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Otherwise, why would one be bold enough to talk about gambling with others who have better and recent experience than you who have no idea nor have ever tried to gamble away some few bucks just to have a story to tell?
I think that when one has a prior gambling experience somehow, it qualifies such a one to openly gist/talk about it and even share strategies that may be accepted and logical enough.

Your opinion is welcomed!

I believe you're taking it seriously. Gambling is just for entertainment and fun. It's doesn't matter if you're the person who has most of the "experience" in BitcoinTalk because you'll always be a long term loser against the entity who has the edge against you. Cool

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It's so obvious. It goes without saying that a person must have experience. A player without experience is unlikely to be able to say anything useful about gambling. For example, about games that allow for some strategy, not just randomness. These are usually card games, of which poker is the most common. However, many books have been written about poker, and it is unlikely that you can learn anything else even from an experienced player. So your own experience is primarily valuable for the player himself, and not to broadcast it to others who, in general, will not learn anything new from it.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Otherwise, why would one be bold enough to talk about gambling with others who have better and recent experience than you who have no idea nor have ever tried to gamble away some few bucks just to have a story to tell?

You can’t drive away beginners away from this forum or from any communities that talk about gambling. They would always want to put their two cents in even if they haven’t been around the world for a long time. That is because a person will always have an opinion regardless whether it’s correct or not. But I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing because we can always correct them and they can always learn.

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I think that when one has a prior gambling experience somehow, it qualifies such a one to openly gist/talk about it and even share strategies that may be accepted and logical enough.

People who have been around here for a long time do know better. Experience is the best requirement there is to qualify you as someone allowed to be giving advices or opinions.

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Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

Like they usually say experience is the best teacher, you can't find someone who doesn't have an experience in gambling to gist or talk about it with others, there must be a root of a gambling habits. And having such experience should make you understand the whole mystery of gambling so you can as well let out some useful information to other people when you talk about it.

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Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

A situation I see frequently when people talk about gambling is that they claim it's possible to make consistent profit from it. I tell them it's not possible, but they insist the opposite. Then I keep quiet and let them talk about their awesome winning experiences. People also believe there are safe strategies to gamble, like placing huge bets with small odds.

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

Well some are just shilling maybe. I noticed that too that some shares some of their win from gambling sending screenshot of their profits but doesnt bother to show their losses. Pretty sure that there is a huge losses too on every posted gains grom a gambler.

Maybe they dont want to show their losses too buy happily brag their winning games.

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Not at all because he can also learns from other people experience and if he have an open mind, he will accept what other people explain if he is wrong in the discussion. He will consider that is a suggestion for him that will add more knowledge to him so he will talk to other people and understand it better. It is better to try to learn many things than never try to talk with other people and we can consider that when we don't have much knowledge to that, we can tell to other people who talk with us that we are lack of knowledge. That people will understand it and they will teach us for more.

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When discussing the topic of gambling between an experienced gambler and an inexperienced gambler, it is easy to tell who is experienced and who is inexperienced. Many of us dismiss gambling as purely dependent on luck but it is true that depending on luck is also dependent on experience. An experienced gambler definitely takes less risk than an inexperienced gambler and an experienced gambler has more control than an inexperienced gambler.

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Experience is needed well yes because gambling is sometimes not just about luck and some games need data to predict the future. and some person can tell or talk and share their data with others.

Quote from: uneng on December 25, 2024, 12:45:40 PM

A situation I see frequently when people talk about gambling is that they claim it's possible to make consistent profit from it. I tell them it's not possible, but they insist the opposite. Then I keep quiet and let them talk about their awesome winning experiences. People also believe there are safe strategies to gamble, like placing huge bets with small odds.

With that in mind, anyone can talk about gambling on their own way, but of course experience makes total difference in order to not look like a fool or to lead other potential gamblers into mistakes.

You cant make consistent profit if you are the user hahah if you the onwer then you can make consistent profit from it. or you have ton of luck that made you so profit haha.

Agree anyone can talk about gambling with their own way

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Otherwise, why would one be bold enough to talk about gambling with others who have better and recent experience than you who have no idea nor have ever tried to gamble away some few bucks just to have a story to tell?

Maybe it was done just to get sympathy and to look smarter and even more experienced in gambling, haha people like this usually say lot of things that don't really need to be talked about.
So far from the first time trying and starting gambling until now, I have never made bet just to get story and show off to other people, always gambling to win and profit until over time I consider it place to entertain myself.
There is no point in doing all that either.

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Well, I think as veteran gamblers we could easily identify new gamblers who are just trying to have a discussion with us. It will be obvious because they don't know much but I won't kick them out. Why? Because we have been there, trying to learn, having an open talk with other gamblers is a part of growing while you are still green with gambling.
Let them talk but let them learn too. It's not like there's a VIP lounge for the experienced ones. This forum shows that anyone can be a part of the discussion and learn from the ideas of those who have experience in both winning and losing and gambling.

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People can have different gambling experiences. Everybody can say their piece. If one has 5 decades of gambling experience, it doesn't automatically mean he/she has the monopoly of knowledge and understanding and strategies and whatnot as regards gambling. Even those who rarely gamble have something to share. They also have unique gambling experiences. And a long-time gambler might actually have something to learn from them.

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Yes, I think that a person to talk about casino gambling has to have experience, because what many know is only generic and what we are used to reading, but a player gives more details, is more specific and the best thing is that in the discussion forums you get people who understand those details, and that's where it's good because when there are people who Know what is being talked about in detail it's easier to get help or contribute, people who don't have much experience will not know how to respond to some events, and that's when you see that they don't know much, and in gambling it's nice that someone understands that language of the games.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

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No? You don't discuss "Oh, I used the 0.0005% probability that I won't hit so I bet on this certain specific Crash game because of Y specific factors and Z percentage of house edge" bullshit. You discuss gambling about how you won X amount or how you lost Y amount or how you ALMOST won that amount. There's no "intelligent speak" when it comes to casual conversations about gambling. Giving tips and advice is different though but for general conversations? It probably won't hover outside of those topics. And you don't even need experience imo since most general tips for gambling is just to be responsible with your money. Or not gamble at all!

Different with sports bets though since you're now more on discussing the match itself with the bet supplementing the specific events of the match that you're discussing.

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When we have the experience, we'll easily understand the conversation made by a person sharing his gambling experience. At the same time, a person who hasn't got experience in gambling will find it difficult or think of it differently. In simple terms, people who have experienced loss in gambling will make a conversation that one should always have control over his gambling activities. If not, they'll lose big in the short term. A person who isn't aware about gambling will think, What's there to control? We're just playing and going to win. Only on experiencing the reality will he understand all about the control.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

I think that when one has a prior gambling experience somehow, it qualifies such a one to openly gist/talk about it and even share strategies that may be accepted and logical enough.

Your opinion is welcomed!

The truth is that what you don't have knowledge or experience about it is impossible to talk about. Gambling wins may be unpredictable that one can't be able to tell what the outcome will be but still their are some aspect about gambling that needs good understanding which can be gotten from experience. To discuss about gambling experience is needed because it is what you have knowledge about that is what you can give full and good details about in discussion.

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I don't find this topic to be a necessity for this board because likely this discussion is going to slide into spam as many will be replying just to fill their posts quarter and a few people will be on point in this regard.

To be able to discuss gambling-related topics, one doesn't need to be a long-term experienced gambler before they can do it, with just research and reading from others, one can build discussion skills so even as a newbie one can find all the needed information by simply searching on the Internet.

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This applies to all aspect of life - you actually can’t give advice on any topic or contribute to a discussion when you don’t have any knowledge about the topic that’s being discussed.

If you’re a gambler and have spent some time gambling even if you’re not a skilled one you should be able to contribute to a discussion about gambling as long as it doesn’t involve the technical aspects of it - your loses alone is enough to help guide people in this space tell them the things you did and what you realized after you lost, those things can help and only those that have actually had an hands on experience can offer such advice.

Those you see giving advice without an actual experience is very easy to spot out - except when they are extremely good at masking fake conversations.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 25, 2024, 12:36:17 PM

Otherwise, why would one be bold enough to talk about gambling with others who have better and recent experience than you who have no idea nor have ever tried to gamble away some few bucks just to have a story to tell?

Because they have their own belief of what's right. There's always the personal version of correctness that we want to tell the others and to verify what we're feeling. And for that reason, this is giving us the idea that we have to make sure that even if the others have better experience than us, we tend to talk what we believe is right. That's the simple explanation that I can say about that when I see someone who keeps on talking as if they're better than someone who's got a lot of gambling experience and losses.

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