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Quote from: qwertyup23 on November 14, 2021, 06:22:10 PM

This is definitely one of my favorite race this year. Hamilton just showed on why he is the world champion due to his overtaking skills and confidence with the car.

Actually I find the Mercedes car much better now than just a few races back. It's like a different, much better car. They did wonders with this ~~last~~ 5th engine.
I don't say that Hamilton is a weak driver, he's clearly not and the so easy overtaking in the sprint race and in the normal one is his merit too, but, by far, it's not his only merit.

On the other hand, something was clearly not working good enough with RBR cars. Their strategy was not bad (also this time they managed to correctly snatch the extra point for fastest driver), but I think that the fine tuning was not as good as in other races.

The Ferrari - McLaren fight seems to be getting a result which I wouldn't have been able to foresee at the start of the season. The Ferrari cars seem to go better and better and McLaren just doesn't keep the pace. Their 1-2 at Monza seems something way in the past.

I like Gasly's performance lately, while Tsunoda seems to just not fit in.

Ah, and Aston Martin is the disappointment of current season for me.

For me it was not a great race. It was not bad, but not great either. The good thing is that this result makes the fight for the Driver's Championship remain tight.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on November 14, 2021, 06:22:10 PM

This is definitely one of my favorite race this year. Hamilton just showed on why he is the world champion due to his overtaking skills and confidence with the car. As someone who started last during the sprint race and started 8th on this race, he calmly overtook most of the drivers along the race. In turn 59 when he got the slipstream, he managed to snag the place from his rival Verstappen, which secured him the spot throughout the race. This is like old school F1 rivalry all over again!

In fact, Hamilon is a driver that surprises us at every race, as going from tenth place to third is not for any driver. It's never boring to watch an F1 race when Hamilton needs to gain positions, but when he starts first things get a lot more boring.

I had plans for this year to be able to see F1 in person, but for some personal problems this was not possible... maybe next year.

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Quote from: boltz on November 14, 2021, 01:15:24 PM

So happy for Hamilton and Mercedes today and fans are happy as well that Lewis delivered some justice and took the 1st place. Great race from Bottas too and this time even if Mercedes looked sloppy on the 2nd stop , they knew exactly what they are doing because in 5 laps Hamilton was already behind Max at just 1 second so I think the undercut was planned no to work in order to make Max to push and make him pit earlier ...so many mind battles are going behind the scenes and this is why we love F1.

This is definitely one of my favorite race this year. Hamilton just showed on why he is the world champion due to his overtaking skills and confidence with the car. As someone who started last during the sprint race and started 8th on this race, he calmly overtook most of the drivers along the race. In turn 59 when he got the slipstream, he managed to snag the place from his rival Verstappen, which secured him the spot throughout the race. This is like old school F1 rivalry all over again!

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Quote from: sportsbet.io on November 13, 2021, 11:20:07 AM

Hi Guys..

Have we ever had a situation about a rule breach that has been deliberated on for so long?

Well, this is Formula 1.

If we only think about Mercedes in the past years we got.

- Flexing wings.
- Holes in the wheel rims.
- DAS was illegal but they said "ok use it and we will ban it the next year".

And for sure I can't remember others.

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So happy for Hamilton and Mercedes today and fans are happy as well that Lewis delivered some justice and took the 1st place. Great race from Bottas too and this time even if Mercedes looked sloppy on the 2nd stop , they knew exactly what they are doing because in 5 laps Hamilton was already behind Max at just 1 second so I think the undercut was planned no to work in order to make Max to push and make him pit earlier ...so many mind battles are going behind the scenes and this is why we love F1.

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So did I understand that there are no points penalties? I mean starting last and a paltry euro fine doesn't feel like it's enough deterrent for them to not do shit like that again...

And how about Bottas? I took a 55/10 on him winning fastest lap on the race but did not put big money on it (just Clubhouse freebies heh) so yeah I won but it does feel like I should have trusted my gut, now that the odds dropped to 44/10 after he won the sprint by over a second.

Enjoy the race in about 3 hours+!

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Quote from: rdbase on November 13, 2021, 01:40:50 PM

Mercedes found guilty of breaching rear wing technical regulations -quoted directly from Sky sports broadcast just before the sprint race.
Hamilton will start 20th for today so a long shot.

I find the penalty rather small, since they've probably had this... "problem" for many races before.
Oh well... at least it makes the end of season more interesting.

I've watched the sprint and although I don't like Hamilton at all, I can admit that he made a great race.
I was surprised how good the soft tyres did, probably the dropping/not-so-hot temperatures had a bigger effect than expected, which was great for both Bottas and Sainz.
It was quite interesting that although they have Mercedes engine, the McLaren cars didn't just let Hamilton pass them (especially Ricciardo).

It was a great sprint race. These nice short races tend to get more intense than the actual race Cheesy

However, let's see later today the real deal Wink

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I just took Sprint Race to be won by either Leclerc or Sainz as call this one crazy but Hamilton loved and still loves Senna so much and if he has some karma left in the air for him to fight for this title, the Senna double apex could bring a crash with Max and Bottas or Perez... . Also both of Ferrari drivers have 41 odds Roll Eyes

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Quote from: sportsbet.io on November 13, 2021, 11:20:07 AM

Hi Guys..

Have we ever had a situation about a rule breach that has been deliberated on for so long?

I can not think of one, I am amazed nothing was announced before P2..

I get the situation with Max touching Lu Lu's car is around the scenario, but I think we can all see it was just a touch and the 2 issues are separate in reality.

What a season!! Can't wait for Ron Howard to get his hands on this one!!

Good luck guys, I took Bottas at 10's for now because the FIA are pretty much a RNG case when it comes to fines and bans..

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Very interesting sprint race about to start.
If you check the odds they have all shifted in Verstappen's favor between 1.32x for sprint and 1.43x for tomorrow's race.

Mercedes found guilty of breaching rear wing technical regulations -quoted directly from Sky sports broadcast just before the sprint race.
Hamilton will start 20th for today so a long shot.

I selected Lewis for tomorrows final race @10.60x so we will see who gets their pick correct Steve! Grin

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Quote from: sportsbet.io on November 13, 2021, 11:20:07 AM

Hi Guys..

Have we ever had a situation about a rule breach that has been deliberated on for so long?

I can not think of one, I am amazed nothing was announced before P2..

I get the situation with Max touching Lu Lu's car is around the scenario, but I think we can all see it was just a touch and the 2 issues are separate in reality.

What a season!! Can't wait for Ron Howard to get his hands on this one!!

Good luck guys, I took Bottas at 10's for now because the FIA are pretty much a RNG case when it comes to fines and bans..

regards,

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Never ...we had never had a situation like this who take so long in order to be solved. Why is taking this so long ? because most likely this decision will influence the title so much that they need all the time they can get before doing the statement. Is this hurting the sport ? yes. is this better for a fair fight for the title ? probably.

I do think that both of them will get a penalty but it will be a fair one for both of them. FIA cannot make any mistakes today.

Also the odds are down right now so probably a FIA statement will be made soon so let's see how this will go on. Grin

EDIT 1 : Max fined 50k$ for touching Lewis wing.

EDIT 2 : Lewis D/C from qualifiers.

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Hi Guys..

Have we ever had a situation about a rule breach that has been deliberated on for so long?

I can not think of one, I am amazed nothing was announced before P2..

I get the situation with Max touching Lu Lu's car is around the scenario, but I think we can all see it was just a touch and the 2 issues are separate in reality.

What a season!! Can't wait for Ron Howard to get his hands on this one!!

Good luck guys, I took Bottas at 10's for now because the FIA are pretty much a RNG case when it comes to fines and bans..

regards,

Steve.
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Good possibility Bottas will stand at the podium but along side Hamilton and Max.
In what order, could not say as Brazil looks to be another hard track and if there is a crash then one or both of those I just mentioned might be out of the race early.
Sprint race today in a few hours.
Will be watching it live while it happens along with practice 2 going on soon.
Since there isn't any pro league play in the major soccer venue this weekend.

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Ding dong dilly, looks like we're headed for some end of season dramatics now with Hamilton and Verstappen both getting in hot soup over illegalities, seems they're expecting some huge penalties, so those guys chasing them could be extra motivated to make the last few races count!

I hate redipping into Bottas after missing out on his win, time to gear up on him again, what do you think guys?

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Unfortunately, I was not able to watch the race in Mexico live. But I know the results, and they certainly did not bring anything unusual, maybe only joy for Perez's victory at the home race. He's done well, got to the podium. But the 19 point difference is quite a problem for Lewis, more so that Verstappen seems to be in great shape.
We are waiting for the Brazilian stage, where the track is really interesting. In 2019, Max won on this track, and Bottas showed the minimum lap time.

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Quote from: rdbase on November 09, 2021, 09:50:02 AM

Next race is coming up for the weekend this time in Brazil. Cool

The track in Sao Paulo is looking sweet and hot!

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These days, we have a race every week. The Mexico GP last week wasn't very enjoyable for me except the start of the race. Verstappen's start was awesome and he took the lead by overtaking both of the Mercedes drivers already. And the incident between Bottas and Ricciardo was very unfortunate. Because Bottas got a very deserved pole position in the qualifying and he could have had a really solid race too. But Ricciardo messed things up for him. It was a bad day for Mercedes and a very good one for Red Bull. Verstappen dominated the race and Perez finished on the podium (3rd place).

I'm excited about the race in Brazil this weekend. I hope to see a competitive race and a race with a lot of overtakes. The Brazil GP hasn't been one of the boring tracks so far. So, I'm looking forward to see it. Let's see if Hamilton will lessen the point gap with Verstappen which is 19 points now.

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Next race is coming up for the weekend this time in Brazil. Cool

The track in Sao Paulo is looking sweet and hot!

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And once again there is another to keep it intersting!
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Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 08, 2021, 02:32:28 AM

Luckily the broadcasters were smart enough to focus on the better parts like Perez vs Hamilton or Bottas vs Ricciardo, else it would have been a boring race to see, like the ones from the days of Michael Schumacher.
Yes, Verstappen did a great race. And Perez too. And Gasly too. And Vettel and Kimi too. And most were almost "invisible".

Mercedes didn't find the best settings this time and the starting strategy has failed them too. The only reason they're still the first at constructors is because Bottas got the fastest lap at the end. RedBull could have had the same strategy with Perez (he had plenty of time to change tyres in the last 5-ish laps at least), but I think that they preferred to let him try his luck on Hamilton (for the show and maybe for long term benefits like Checo's self-confidence?)

Or maybe... you know points? I mean there was a serious chance that Perez could have become second, which would have mean a lot better result for Max who would be even further ahead, and would be great for Perez who would gain some points and would be awesome for Red Bull since they would get closer as well.

By the looks of it, if things go this way there is a serious chance that Red Bull may lose the constructor whereas Max may win the drivers and that would be a little weird, it is always better to win them both for team chemistry. In this case it would have helped them immensely with the constructors so it was smart to risk it and hope that he would pass Hamilton.

Of course since Mercedes is faster on straights and have been for nearly a decade now, it is always more reasonable to expect them to keep that distance in the straights and it is really hard to pass them when it is 1-2 second difference unless there is a serious pace difference and here they had some but not enough.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on November 08, 2021, 09:04:17 AM

I think that Sergio Perez was absolutely the driver of the day. Maybe its being his home Grand Prix was also very effective in this but he still had a great race. I would like to see him making big difficulties for Lewis Hamilton who was at the 2nd place being right in front of him. Perez actually got very close to Hamilton earlier than Mercedes expected. But after overtaking Norris, Hamilton managed to open the gap a little. In the last two laps, Perez dropped the gap down to a level below 1 second again but it was not enough for him to attack. But still it was a good job for him and the team.

On the last lap, it was really intense especially when the team radio of Red bull told Perez that it is "now or never." But the years of experience of Lewis Hamilton on his driving skills became a barrier to Checo's move against him. Though Checo attempted to overtake, Lewis still managed to kept his 2nd position during the race. Again, this is a win for Max Verstappen but I am just really glad to see Perez on a podium finish on his home country race track.

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I think that Sergio Perez was absolutely the driver of the day. Maybe its being his home Grand Prix was also very effective in this but he still had a great race. I would like to see him making big difficulties for Lewis Hamilton who was at the 2nd place being right in front of him. Perez actually got very close to Hamilton earlier than Mercedes expected. But after overtaking Norris, Hamilton managed to open the gap a little. In the last two laps, Perez dropped the gap down to a level below 1 second again but it was not enough for him to attack. But still it was a good job for him and the team.

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Too right @boltz and @NeuroticFish. Spot on analyst of how the race unfolded for those drivers.
I just knew Perez wouldn't let the home fans down and he did take the lead from Max on lap 34 so it was well worth it hearing on Verstappen of conceding the lead to his partner. As he proclaimed.
Excellent race and had my prediction guessed correctly on the Sportsbet.io Ann thread of how it would finish.
Max, Hamilton, Perez in that order.
A Red Bull sandwich if you want to give it a name.

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