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Quote from: delfastTions on November 25, 2021, 02:01:20 AM

The last race in Qatar brought even more intrigue this season. Hamilton has closed the gap with Verstappen and still has the opportunity to be first this season. I also really like the victory of Alonso. I haven't seen him on the podium for a long time. Ahead is a completely new track in Saudi Arabia.
But I must say, in general, such dry races in the heat and in these eastern countries I do not particularly like. Somehow there is no such severity and intrigue.

Hamilton and Verstappen's relationship has not been good since the incident, but whatever the story behind it. I'm sure Hamilton will stay focused on this match. How Hamilton got a penalty earlier but still won. I still believe that their team will be won by Hamilton. Hopefully in the next match intrigue as you say won't repeat. For the sake of a fair match for all teams.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 25, 2021, 05:30:03 AM

Rather than predicting the winner, it makes more sense to start betting on who will be second, as Hamilton seems to have a huge grip on the tournament and the car does not seem to have any flaw. Carlos and Fernando do not seem like serious competitors in the general clasification, despite being clearly able to do more with a lesser car and a lesser budget. I think that Ferrari is not willing to put into the game what is required to win and that means that betting is becoming a bit boring this season.

In my opinion, even if Hamilton would have participated in the race alone, it would be unreasonable to bet on his victory (on the fact that he will reach the finish line) with odds of, for example, 1.01. There is always a place for accidents, technical failures, human factors and more. Therefore, no matter how good the car and Hamilton himself are, giving him the first place in advance is a big risk and an erroneous assumption.

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Rather than predicting the winner, it makes more sense to start betting on who will be second, as Hamilton seems to have a huge grip on the tournament and the car does not seem to have any flaw. Carlos and Fernando do not seem like serious competitors in the general clasification, despite being clearly able to do more with a lesser car and a lesser budget. I think that Ferrari is not willing to put into the game what is required to win and that means that betting is becoming a bit boring this season.

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The last race in Qatar brought even more intrigue this season. Hamilton has closed the gap with Verstappen and still has the opportunity to be first this season. I also really like the victory of Alonso. I haven't seen him on the podium for a long time. Ahead is a completely new track in Saudi Arabia.
But I must say, in general, such dry races in the heat and in these eastern countries I do not particularly like. Somehow there is no such severity and intrigue.

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Next years have the potential to just get even more interesting. Eric Blandin, the Mercedes Chief for aerodynamics is leaving to... Aston Martin.. which also has Mercedes engine.

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Next race is a mile away but can't wait to see what unfolds being tight for these two drivers Lewis and Max for the season before the end of the year.
The Saudi Arabian grand prix!

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 22, 2021, 12:06:15 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 22, 2021, 03:54:11 AM

if the race ends with any other advantage of Verstappen, then Hamilton's chances will drop to almost zero (since not everything will depend on him and even taking first place in last race he will lose the championship). At the same time, the bookmakers' odds now look like this:

Hamilton 1,64
Verstappen 2,25

Hamilton's car is now much faster than the Red Bull, Hamilton will not go down easy, so yeah, I find the odds pretty much as expected.
For the next race I've seen 3.00 offered for betting on Max...

Somehow everything has changed greatly with the new engine...

Yes, I know that now Mercedes is ahead in this regard, but it is often difficult to convert a technical advantage into a point advantage. There are many other factors that can prevent you from successfully completing the race, so such chances seem too skewed to me. Still, Verstappen's point advantage is very high considering the remaining two races.

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Quote from: STT on November 22, 2021, 01:18:10 PM

I think Verstappen does take the championship so long as he does nothing stupid and is not especially punished for past stupidity perhaps. If he can take it by being 2nd, I think he has to be rated as most probable to take the entire thing because obviously he is well capable of 1st also. Lewis might deserve it for our recent memory of his performance but the its a long season and I've seen this photo finish effect before, so I'd guess Verstappen at this point.

Obviously, Mercedes has better cars than Red Bull and the most important task is to make this advantage manifest itself with a winning double in one of the last two races. I'm not sure that Max will continue to behave like this when Bottas manages to stay behind Max on a clearly faster car. Therefore, yes, the advantage in points is still on Verstappen's side and, accordingly, there seems to be more chances to win the title, but Mercedes solved the problems with their car by the end of the season and in this regard they have all the cards up their sleeve. However, there is too little time left before the end of the championship and everything can be solved by small nuances and elementary luck.

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I think Verstappen does take the championship so long as he does nothing stupid and is not especially punished for past stupidity perhaps. If he can take it by being 2nd, I think he has to be rated as most probable to take the entire thing because obviously he is well capable of 1st also. Lewis might deserve it for our recent memory of his performance but the its a long season and I've seen this photo finish effect before, so I'd guess Verstappen at this point.

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It was a great race weekend I think. Hamilton was extremely fast and it was obvious that he was going to win the race in Qatar. It was an unfortunate race for Bottas and the Mercedes side as a result. He made a simple mistake and had a blowout. And a little time after it, the team had no choice rather than retiring the car. After this incident, Hamilton was left alone there. And as a result, the fastest lap belonged to a Red Bull driver who was Max Verstappen. It was an important extra point for Verstappen. And aside from all of this, it was a special day for Fernando Alonso as he ended at the 3rd place being on the podium. What a great race he had really!

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 22, 2021, 03:54:11 AM

if the race ends with any other advantage of Verstappen, then Hamilton's chances will drop to almost zero (since not everything will depend on him and even taking first place in last race he will lose the championship). At the same time, the bookmakers' odds now look like this:

Hamilton 1,64
Verstappen 2,25

Hamilton's car is now much faster than the Red Bull, Hamilton will not go down easy, so yeah, I find the odds pretty much as expected.
For the next race I've seen 3.00 offered for betting on Max...

Somehow everything has changed greatly with the new engine...

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 21, 2021, 04:01:15 PM

We really have a lot of combinations as a possible outcome for the title to be decided in the last race.

On the other hand, there are few combinations for which Verstappen can become champion already in the next GP.

Max will win the title in the next race only if one of this 4 outcomes will happen

-He wins and Hamilton 6
-He wins + fast lap and Hamilton 5
-2nd and fast lap and Hamilton 10
-2nd and Hamilton no points

I must note that these options are quite likely, plus if the race ends with any other advantage of Verstappen, then Hamilton's chances will drop to almost zero (since not everything will depend on him and even taking first place in last race he will lose the championship). At the same time, the bookmakers' odds now look like this:

Hamilton 1,64
Verstappen 2,25
Huh

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on November 21, 2021, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: boltz on November 21, 2021, 12:24:24 PM

Now ,a serious question for F1 fans. What would've happen if Prime Lewis would fight Prime Max ? I think Lewis would beat him 9 out of 10. What this means ? It means that Max is fighting and old Lewis already and he barely can move a finger on him. Lewis is the goat , even if we like it or not.

It is just so crazy to see that Lewis still manages to snag majority of the victories despite some heavy setbacks this season. Even if he is considered old, if Max were to race against a prime Lewis, I do agree that the latter would win 9 out of 10 times.
I am just happy to see Alonso back on the podium. As far as I can remember, the last time Alonso went on the podium was like 8-9 years ago around 2013? He managed to defend his position very well despite some pressure coming from Checo. With all the punctures happening, this was definitely a good race to witness!

I would also give preference to Hamilton in this matter, given what he has already achieved and continues to achieve. With all due respect to Max, but he still has a lot to grow and an arrogant character is not always a guarantee of success. However, I seem to have seen progress for the better in this matter with Verstappen lately, but some of his words and actions still make me think about the previous Max. However, given the current situation, there are certain reasons to behave nervously. I am also happy for Fernando Alonso that he finally managed to get on the podium after taking second place at the stage in Hungary in 2014 as part of Ferrari.

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Quote from: boltz on November 21, 2021, 12:24:24 PM

Well the race was a great one even if he had a bit of a show only in the last laps when punctures appeared everywhere. Funny how only Mercedes teams had punctures right ? For me it's obvious that FIA wants to make Max champions and they will do what they can to make Mercedes races uncomfortable. In the end , I hope that Lewis will win and take his 8th title.

Now ,a serious question for F1 fans. What would've happen if Prime Lewis would fight Prime Max ? I think Lewis would beat him 9 out of 10. What this means ? It means that Max is fighting and old Lewis already and he barely can move a finger on him. Lewis is the goat , even if we like it or not.

Yeah, that was a bad wheel grinding the track causing damage enough to have the virtual safety car to be assigned with only a few laps left to go in the race.
It was a Hamilton win at the podium taking it Qatar with Verstappen and Alonzo alongside him and Bottas taking the constructor trophy.
Which was a nice touch since he will be retiring as buwaytress had mentioned in his post.

The next race in Saudi Arabia (Jeddah Corniche Circuit) should be a good one with Lewis making a show of it with the final tracks to go before this year's season is done and dusted.

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The Saudia of Arabia race will be one of the most important races in Lewis Hamilton's career, and the most difficult one because the Jeddah circuit is very narrow and the corners I think will give an advantage to Red Bull over Mercedes.
An important point is that Verstappen's victory will mean he will win the championship unless a miracle happens in Abu Dhabi. But Mercedes has made a smart plan to prepare for the next race. In the Qatar Grand Prix, it did not use the rocket engine that it used in Brazil, but rather used an old engine, to maintain the new engine for the last two races, but Red Bull are fierce competitors and I will not deny the talent that Verstappen has. My expectations for the Jeddah Prize in qualifying will replace Hamilton.
Breathtakingly in first place behind Verstappen and behind him Perez and Bottas in the race will be the first very important lap for the leaders and the battle is fiery. As for the strategies, it will be closer to the two stops, but many safety cars will come out as a result of many accidents, which may confuse the cards and turn the positions upside down and we will witness a few violations on Most of the circuit floor is at the first corner.
The winner will be difficult to determine before the end of the race,

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Quote from: boltz on November 21, 2021, 12:24:24 PM

Now ,a serious question for F1 fans. What would've happen if Prime Lewis would fight Prime Max ? I think Lewis would beat him 9 out of 10. What this means ? It means that Max is fighting and old Lewis already and he barely can move a finger on him. Lewis is the goat , even if we like it or not.

It is just so crazy to see that Lewis still manages to snag majority of the victories despite some heavy setbacks this season. Even if he is considered old, if Max were to race against a prime Lewis, I do agree that the latter would win 9 out of 10 times.

I am just happy to see Alonso back on the podium. As far as I can remember, the last time Alonso went on the podium was like 8-9 years ago around 2013? He managed to defend his position very well despite some pressure coming from Checo. With all the punctures happening, this was definitely a good race to witness!

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Quote from: buwaytress on November 21, 2021, 12:17:33 PM

2 races to go, if the same Hamilton-Verstappen 1-2 happens in Jeddah, it will be winner takes all in Abu Dhabi. Plenty of potential spoilers and big drama moves could be in the wings though but I somehow think we shouldn't be expecting much.

We really have a lot of combinations as a possible outcome for the title to be decided in the last race.

On the other hand, there are few combinations for which Verstappen can become champion already in the next GP.

Max will win the title in the next race only if one of this 4 outcomes will happen

-He wins and Hamilton 6
-He wins + fast lap and Hamilton 5
-2nd and fast lap and Hamilton 10
-2nd and Hamilton no points

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Quote from: buwaytress on November 21, 2021, 12:17:33 PM

So the bookies were right, everything on point, and even with all the drama and Bottas retiring, the main stage more or less played out as it should (and a nice Alonso break-the-lull podium finish).

2 races to go, if the same Hamilton-Verstappen 1-2 happens in Jeddah, it will be winner takes all in Abu Dhabi. Plenty of potential spoilers and big drama moves could be in the wings though but I somehow think we shouldn't be expecting much.

Yes, the race did end according to what the bookmakers thought was the most likely option. Hamilton was able to reduce the distance by 7 points, but in fact the situation has not changed - any failure makes Verstappen a champion, and Verstappen's failure is not so fatal. But of course, if the next race ends with the same result, then in the last race Verstappen's advantage will be purely formal.

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Well the race was a great one even if he had a bit of a show only in the last laps when punctures appeared everywhere. Funny how only Mercedes teams had punctures right ? For me it's obvious that FIA wants to make Max champions and they will do what they can to make Mercedes races uncomfortable. In the end , I hope that Lewis will win and take his 8th title.

Now ,a serious question for F1 fans. What would've happen if Prime Lewis would fight Prime Max ? I think Lewis would beat him 9 out of 10. What this means ? It means that Max is fighting and old Lewis already and he barely can move a finger on him. Lewis is the goat , even if we like it or not.

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So the bookies were right, everything on point, and even with all the drama and Bottas retiring, the main stage more or less played out as it should (and a nice Alonso break-the-lull podium finish).

2 races to go, if the same Hamilton-Verstappen 1-2 happens in Jeddah, it will be winner takes all in Abu Dhabi. Plenty of potential spoilers and big drama moves could be in the wings though but I somehow think we shouldn't be expecting much.

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