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Quote from: slaman29 on October 16, 2021, 03:50:01 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 16, 2021, 12:09:19 AM

The race in Austin is interesting because there are two large straight sections and the advantage of high-speed cars there will be obvious. In addition, the turns are wide and pilots can use different trajectories. In general,
I'm looking forward to this race.
Let's see if Bottas can prove himself a hero, as it was in Turkey?

Well, if we all agree Bottas only can do well if he protects and not attacks, then he only wins this if he is fastest driver to get pole. Which he never really has been.

Hamilton in pole, and then it's over, so people will hope for more penalties. Verstappen podium but not certain of 1st.

^ To be honest, it is not Bottas' work to be the aggressor, It's Hamilton's. Bottas works as his wingman and support. But from what you have said about the tracks, I feel that Mercedes will have an advantage in this race as their cars excel in straight paths and as the turns are even wide, Hamilton will be able to win the race if he gets enough support from Bottas and doesn't make any big mistake.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 16, 2021, 12:09:19 AM

The race in Austin is interesting because there are two large straight sections and the advantage of high-speed cars there will be obvious. In addition, the turns are wide and pilots can use different trajectories. In general,
I'm looking forward to this race.
Let's see if Bottas can prove himself a hero, as it was in Turkey?

Well, if we all agree Bottas only can do well if he protects and not attacks, then he only wins this if he is fastest driver to get pole. Which he never really has been.

Hamilton in pole, and then it's over, so people will hope for more penalties. Verstappen podium but not certain of 1st.

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The race in Austin is interesting because there are two large straight sections and the advantage of high-speed cars there will be obvious. In addition, the turns are wide and pilots can use different trajectories. In general,
I'm looking forward to this race.
Let's see if Bottas can prove himself a hero, as it was in Turkey?

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 13, 2021, 04:35:26 AM

Bottas can only win if he holds everybody off. I don't think he's a great person at overtaking, and definitely not with others around him. So maybe it's the only tactic he can manage now. Get into pole, so do your best in qualifying, and then just keep it there and frustrate everyone else or get teammates to do that job.

I agree with what you said because in the last races it was like that, maybe even in the Max Verstappen race the only person who could be considered a threat because of being behind bottas from time to time.
but what I like about him in yesterday's race is that he always looks good and slick and is able to maintain the position he has and this bottas victory can also be called helping his team mate, Lewis Hamilton, to be able to catch Verstappen again in the hunt for the 2021 world title

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 15, 2021, 07:36:07 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 15, 2021, 03:32:43 AM

Of course, even now, when building new tracks, the designer takes into account all the new challenges and new difficulties in the tracks.
The race in Turkey made me happy with the weather and the race itself. Bottas unexpectedly, in my opinion, proved to be a hero, but Max managed to break away from Hamilton a little. In general, it was interesting to watch.
We are waiting for the next stage

I think everyone really enjoyed the races so far, and I remember people were complaining before things were getting too predictable. Of course, I still think the Belgium weather thing is not something I hope for. I prefer everyone is safe rather than to blindly risk everything just for the sake of entertainment.

Definitely enjoyable to see such competition, such freshness in podium finishers

It was getting too predictable and the sport does need some of this questionable action so to keep it exciting for the fans.
Who wants to see max and hamilton win it week in and week out every time?
I am glad bottas won it in Turkey and hope the one in the US is just as unpredictable for more attraction to the sport.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 15, 2021, 03:32:43 AM

Of course, even now, when building new tracks, the designer takes into account all the new challenges and new difficulties in the tracks.
The race in Turkey made me happy with the weather and the race itself. Bottas unexpectedly, in my opinion, proved to be a hero, but Max managed to break away from Hamilton a little. In general, it was interesting to watch.
We are waiting for the next stage

I think everyone really enjoyed the races so far, and I remember people were complaining before things were getting too predictable. Of course, I still think the Belgium weather thing is not something I hope for. I prefer everyone is safe rather than to blindly risk everything just for the sake of entertainment.

Definitely enjoyable to see such competition, such freshness in podium finishers

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 15, 2021, 12:28:17 AM

But for the spirit of competitiveness, the tracks should always be challenging not because of the way they are built or the weather etc, but also because all teams are equally unfamiliar.

Of course, even now, when building new tracks, the designer takes into account all the new challenges and new difficulties in the tracks.
The race in Turkey made me happy with the weather and the race itself. Bottas unexpectedly, in my opinion, proved to be a hero, but Max managed to break away from Hamilton a little. In general, it was interesting to watch.
We are waiting for the next stage

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 14, 2021, 10:18:47 AM

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Monza still favoring ATauri also do you think? It would be really nice to see more different tracks or tracks altered a little more different every season also, just so cars cannot just gain competitive edge from years of practice. But it was nice to see Dutch track finally in use and of course, favoring the guy who practices it the most.

Well more tracks are being built for this. We recently heard the news of F1 races being held in Qatar. Also, there are a number of places where new tracks are being built. This will have a positive effect on two things -
1. F1 will expand to new areas and gain more followers and
2. New tracks mean a new challenge for all the teams and teams like Mercedes won't have the edge in that because of years of practice in it.

Yeah, that's really good news for the sports. Of course I totally understand why there should be tracks that are famous and pulls crowds every year Monza is the perfect example in my opinion and before we had many more in Asia (but not F1 just other levels).

But for the spirit of competitiveness, the tracks should always be challenging not because of the way they are built or the weather etc, but also because all teams are equally unfamiliar.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 14, 2021, 10:18:47 AM

Mercedes won't have the edge in that because of years of practice in it.

It's not only about the years of practice on those tracks.
Some tracks have longer straight lines, some have shorter; some have tigher corners, some have them wider; some allow easier overtaking by being wider overall, some don't... and so on.
This kind of differences will favor one car or another, one driver or another, not necessarily because of the years of practice.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 14, 2021, 05:31:40 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 13, 2021, 05:26:14 AM

There are known to be races favoring cars like the Mercedes and races that favor cars like the RedBull. They go for different aerodynamics, at least. There are big differences between them in acceleration and breaking.
This race was favoring the Mercedes, hence it was somewhat easier for Valtteri. It doesn't really tell anything definitive about the cars. Also Max was complaining about steering issues, so he may not have been forcing the car as usual to avoid... an abandon maybe.

Monza still favoring ATauri also do you think? It would be really nice to see more different tracks or tracks altered a little more different every season also, just so cars cannot just gain competitive edge from years of practice. But it was nice to see Dutch track finally in use and of course, favoring the guy who practices it the most.

Well more tracks are being built for this. We recently heard the news of F1 races being held in Qatar. Also, there are a number of places where new tracks are being built. This will have a positive effect on two things -
1. F1 will expand to new areas and gain more followers and
2. New tracks mean a new challenge for all the teams and teams like Mercedes won't have the edge in that because of years of practice in it.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 13, 2021, 05:26:14 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on October 13, 2021, 04:35:26 AM

Get into pole, so do your best in qualifying, and then just keep it there and frustrate everyone else or get teammates to do that job.

I tend to agree with this, but next year(s) will actually get to prove you/us wrong or right.

I'm sure the tactic's been tried before with some success and some failures but yes I think next couple of years we see interesting partnerships, new heroes and new talents getting more mature, and I think more and more teams will now sacrifice one driver for another as the rules and points keep changing

Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 13, 2021, 05:26:14 AM

There are known to be races favoring cars like the Mercedes and races that favor cars like the RedBull. They go for different aerodynamics, at least. There are big differences between them in acceleration and breaking.
This race was favoring the Mercedes, hence it was somewhat easier for Valtteri. It doesn't really tell anything definitive about the cars. Also Max was complaining about steering issues, so he may not have been forcing the car as usual to avoid... an abandon maybe.

Monza still favoring ATauri also do you think? It would be really nice to see more different tracks or tracks altered a little more different every season also, just so cars cannot just gain competitive edge from years of practice. But it was nice to see Dutch track finally in use and of course, favoring the guy who practices it the most.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on October 13, 2021, 05:26:14 AM

Quote from: barbara44 on October 12, 2021, 03:32:55 PM

This race basically showed me that Mercedes might have got their car a lot better in the last few races. Looking at how Max wasn't getting any closer to Bottas showed me that Mercedes must be better than Red Bull right now.

There are known to be races favoring cars like the Mercedes and races that favor cars like the RedBull. They go for different aerodynamics, at least. There are big differences between them in acceleration and breaking.
This race was favoring the Mercedes, hence it was somewhat easier for Valtteri. It doesn't really tell anything definitive about the cars. Also Max was complaining about steering issues, so he may not have been forcing the car as usual to avoid... an abandon maybe.

That is true, track gave an advantage to Mercedes. Bottas was miles ahead of the other racers and see even though Verstappen was doing so good, he was no near Bottas. If you see the final result, the ranking from 2nd or 3rd to 7th doesn't have that much gap in between them but the gap between Bottas and Verstappen was a huge 14 seconds.

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Quote from: slaman29 on October 13, 2021, 04:35:26 AM

Bottas can only win if he holds everybody off. I don't think he's a great person at overtaking, and definitely not with others around him. So maybe it's the only tactic he can manage now. Get into pole, so do your best in qualifying, and then just keep it there and frustrate everyone else or get teammates to do that job.

I tend to agree with this, but next year(s) will actually get to prove you/us wrong or right.

Quote from: barbara44 on October 12, 2021, 03:32:55 PM

This race basically showed me that Mercedes might have got their car a lot better in the last few races. Looking at how Max wasn't getting any closer to Bottas showed me that Mercedes must be better than Red Bull right now.

There are known to be races favoring cars like the Mercedes and races that favor cars like the RedBull. They go for different aerodynamics, at least. There are big differences between them in acceleration and breaking.
This race was favoring the Mercedes, hence it was somewhat easier for Valtteri. It doesn't really tell anything definitive about the cars. Also Max was complaining about steering issues, so he may not have been forcing the car as usual to avoid... an abandon maybe.

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Agree with rdbase. Bottas can only win if he holds everybody off. I don't think he's a great person at overtaking, and definitely not with others around him. So maybe it's the only tactic he can manage now. Get into pole, so do your best in qualifying, and then just keep it there and frustrate everyone else or get teammates to do that job.

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Quote from: DIA7 on October 10, 2021, 10:18:50 AM

A breathtaking race in every sense of the word, everyone didn't know what to do!!

I believe this is why Bottas won it because he was already the leader getting pole position from the qualifying race so to start ahead in this one.
All he needed to do was hold them all at bay the entire way. Hamilton was making moves and from the earlier laps at one point down from 11th place and got to 4th in no time. Although Alpha Tauri and Ferrari were giving him problems to pass but he managed to get through them easily.

This race basically showed me that Mercedes might have got their car a lot better in the last few races. Looking at how Max wasn't getting any closer to Bottas showed me that Mercedes must be better than Red Bull right now. Bottas is not a bad racer, you do not become second driver in a Mercedes car by being a bad driver, you need to be a great driver in order to do that.

However at the same time I believe that we know Hamilton is much much better than Bottas as well, dude won nearly every year, or maybe even every year when they were together right? In any case I feel like there is a good chance Max would have caught up to Bottas when they were so close, and he failed to do that and very convincingly as well.

It means if it wasn't Bottas, if it was Hamilton, then Max had no chance at all, he would have lost this one, when Red Bull is ahead then it is easier for them to keep Mercedes behind (as we saw from Perez vs Hamilton this race) but when Mercedes takes off, then nobody gets even closer.

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Max Verstappen is leading on driver standing but it is much closer than I expected and Mercedes is leading constructor race, that is promising very interesting rest of the season.
Next Aramco race in United States could be very important for rating, as well as races in Mexico and Brazil.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 10, 2021, 05:53:36 AM

There is less than one hour left for the big race. Hamilton will have a really tough job to do in this race as he is going to start at the eleventh position. He did his best by ending the qualifying session as the leader. Bottas is going to start from the pole but I think that Verstappen will take the lead from Bottas in a short time. Hamilton must climb as many places as possible not to be left too much behind in the driver standings. I think that Verstappen will win the race.

Bottas had a very good start and is doing a very good job at the front, Tsunoda held Hamilton off for a few laps and cost Hamilton a lot of time and is currently 6th, but the Ferrari is also very fast and I think Ferrari will be on the podium.

To be honest, I was really surprised by the decision of the team to change the tires of Seb during the race. Unfortunately, the risk did not pay off as it costed him as the rain continued to pour. As for Hamilton, the decision of the team also costed him some points which led to Verstappen to be at the top.

So for me it was a classic complete wrong decision to change to slicks at Aston Martin, in no way the track has dried up only rudimentarily and also not until the end of the race it would probably have been possible to drive with slicks, also almost went wrong on the pit entry after a lap where the car slid around the track and Vettel almost blocked the pit entry., would it then have been a SafetyCar phase or even the red flag when the pit lane is blocked?

One lap with Vettel and slicks

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.as-soon-as-i-left-the-pits-i-knew-it-was-the-wrong-decision-vettel-on-his.2hJXUzMZXKBjqO5jLFf7Zf.html

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Quote from: DIA7 on October 10, 2021, 10:18:50 AM

A breathtaking race in every sense of the word, everyone didn't know what to do!!

I believe this is why Bottas won it because he was already the leader getting pole position from the qualifying race so to start ahead in this one.
All he needed to do was hold them all at bay the entire way. Hamilton was making moves and from the earlier laps at one point down from 11th place and got to 4th in no time. Although Alpha Tauri and Ferrari were giving him problems to pass but he managed to get through them easily.

Quote from: boltz on October 10, 2021, 10:58:33 AM

It was a good race because anything could have happened at any time and anyone from P1 to P7 could have won that race. What was strange is that we did not have a single abandon or safety car so we stayed on the edge that it could happen anytime but it didn't.

Personally, I feel bad for Lewis as he did not have a single easy race this year and he is fighting with all his powers in order to keep his car in front of Max but this time the strategist made a wrong call by making him pit with 8 laps to go.

There was almost one needed within the first minute of the race with Alonso spinning out due to a push from another car driven by Gasly.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-turkish-grand-prix-fernando-alonso-spins-off-at-turn-1.1713234896314387328.html
Kind of funny what he says on the radio when it happened.
I was looking at the odds before the race and noticed an early retirement was priced so high @12. Very tempting but knew the drivers would be cautious on this track since it had been raining for all races done for the weekend.

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Maybe the race in Turkey was not the best one compared to the one in last season, but I still enjoyed some competition between drivers like Perez and Hamilton for example. Perez is really good at defending and keeping his position as long as he doesn't have any problem with his car. Even he had a disadvantage on the start straight, he still maintained his place despite Hamilton's attack. It was an unfortunate race for Hamilton and a good one for Verstappen as he got ahead in the driver standings by 6 points. Congrats to Bottas on his huge win! It was a deserved one indeed.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on October 11, 2021, 10:33:33 AM

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 10, 2021, 05:53:36 AM

There is less than one hour left for the big race. Hamilton will have a really tough job to do in this race as he is going to start at the eleventh position. He did his best by ending the qualifying session as the leader. Bottas is going to start from the pole but I think that Verstappen will take the lead from Bottas in a short time. Hamilton must climb as many places as possible not to be left too much behind in the driver standings. I think that Verstappen will win the race.

Bottas had a very good start and is doing a very good job at the front, Tsunoda held Hamilton off for a few laps and cost Hamilton a lot of time and is currently 6th, but the Ferrari is also very fast and I think Ferrari will be on the podium.

To be honest, I was really surprised by the decision of the team to change the tires of Seb during the race. Unfortunately, the risk did not pay off as it costed him as the rain continued to pour. As for Hamilton, the decision of the team also costed him some points which led to Verstappen to be at the top.

Congratulations for Bottas for his clean race! I'll surely miss him once he transfers to Alfra Romeo since he has this consistent driving as it catches everyone off-guard. Like I literally see him as the silent but deadly racer. But again, p2 and p3 both for Redbull and they got the bacon for this Turkish Grand Prix.

Red Bulls are the ones benefiting from this GP. I don't know the ranking right now, but they surely got a lot of points compared to Mercedes as Hamilton, unfortunately, placed 5th. Verstappen has been very consistent for Red Bull so far but if Perez can be a little bit more consistent, that would help them a lot. But so far, I'm liking the Red Bull and Mercedes rivalry.

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