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Topic: [FABLE] The Resurrection of YoBit - page 2. (Read 1956 times)

legendary
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April 21, 2019, 12:32:53 AM
#74
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.

Why are you giving them free advertising?
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 11:57:11 PM
#73
That's way more users than I ever expected there to be.. Average of 10/day/user seems accurate, right? 1500*0.00015 = 0.075/day budget. Seems that yobit is ready to pay $10k (minimum) a month for this.
hero member
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April 20, 2019, 07:58:35 PM
#72
~snip~
Nice work mate.
Have you read the posts of dimondimon? If not, please read some of his posts I bet you will be entertained.  Cheesy



Now as the list is almost ready, bitcointalk polices should run an investigation to find the cheaters... It is possible, some users will try to abuse Yobit campaign as they do not have a manager I guess.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
#71
https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/ shows the signatures they're supposed to use so it can be detected quite accurately.

I'm gonna try my best LoyceV impression so please bear with me.

Edit - updated list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50699097
sr. member
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April 20, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
#70
-snip-
Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?


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I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
Roll Eyes

Do you know that there's drugs sellers who sells you something that could end up your life being addicted to something that could kill you?
Did the seller oblige you or force you to buy it?
There's advertisements here and there and there's peoples talking about the benefits of drugs and marijuana and stuffs like that.. Do you just buy drugs because people's advertised it? Recommended it? Don't you make a research first?
Thats just an example.. I do have morals.. I didn't attack you neither forced you to join yobit and I already clearly stated my thoughts about yobit.. And I didn't see your post about yobit and I won't see it neither look for it.. Do you know why? Because I smell that you have an issue with them.. Which is not my business.. You have to go to the police office if they scammed you, not just coming here to quote my own words and understanding them the way you like.. Just stay away from my name.. You are trying to say that I have no morals and in the same time you're trying to convince me to leave the signature compaign? Is that logical?
FYI, a guy with a good trust just said that we are free to join the sig compaign but we must not spam the forum.. If yobit got proved as a scam platform, then the signature compaign thread will be removed and the members wearing the signature will be tagged.
That's enough for me. I will be wearing the signature until I find something that could help me financially..
And If you really want me to leave the signature and to showoff my morals for real, you might be welcomed to contact ChipMixer's compaign manager and leave your spot for me.. I would be honored to join em. Will you do that? Or not? I think you won't do it.. Do you know why?
The answer is simple, just because of money.. You are with them because of the paycheque! So please stop talking about morals and stay away. (or prove that I am wrong and give me your spot).
Ba Byeee!

(update:
Just look at this post :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50694534
This is the same guy that is trying to fight yobit sig's possible spam attemp..Lmao.. He is even in ChipMixer's sig compaign and he just posted a reply that contains only 1 line and like 11 word. Which is a pure spam. Or am I wrong? First, enhance your posts and then, you will be welcomed to give me orders!)
A wise man once said :
'' Don't listen to AdolfinWolf's instructions and speeches because he is already a spammer''.
Now leave me in peace of mind, please.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 838
April 20, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
#69
I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."
We can call the rule as pseudo rule on post quality. They don't care about post quality, but they add that rule because other campaigns have it.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 05:45:53 PM
#68
Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...
Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast?  Roll Eyes

Yeah, I asked the same thing, more and more accounts are now resurrected with this signature: Smiley


Maybe @loyceV can scrap who is using the signature ans when was the last activity before wearing the signature, sadly I have no skill to do it.

hero member
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April 20, 2019, 04:55:44 PM
#67
Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"...
Check this guy and his post history.
If I could then I'd have made a list of these experts within an hour. Sadly, no spreadsheet to check, manual search would take some time.

Maybe Loyce can do it fast?  Roll Eyes
HCP
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 04:45:42 PM
#66
Damn... Looks like I need to pay more attention... I used YoBit a loooooong time ago when I was selling some coins as they had the lowest fees at the time... I never had any issues with withdrawals etc.

However, it looks like they have totally sold out and are just doing whatever they can to make some $$$... Undecided

It does indeed look like they're just ramping up the advertising to try and capture more fools and part them from their money with these shady "investments" Undecided

I don't see this situation working out well for anybody... Forum looks like it is going to get inundated with 20 post/day "experts"... Participants are likely to get tagged as either spammers or spam promoters... Less educated users might fall for the "scams" being promoted Undecided

At least the campaign is limited to Sr. Member and up... That might make one or two users a bit more cautious as they stand to lose a bit if their account gets banned for spamming... Or tagged... As opposed to newbie/jr throwaway accounts.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
#65
-snip-
Seems like you didn't even look at my post, where i provided clear evidence and links of their fraudulent behavior..

i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
Ahh. So someone else has to determine whether or not what you're advertising is a scam in order for you to remove your signature.

You really have no morals at all, do you?


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I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
Roll Eyes
sr. member
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April 20, 2019, 03:40:46 PM
#64
If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure.
Aha. But as long as you earn money, it doesn't matter if people get screwed over, does it?

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
I'm inclined to agree.

I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
I don't even try to make their faces look like angels! I don't know how to respond to a person like you who's asking alot of questions..
Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-
Even some DT members had an experience with Yobit Signature, why did you just ask the DT members to Redtag us all?
Any solid proof you got there? because i only can see some comments on twitter but i didn't found like something that really makes the platform guilty .. and Again! I am not defending them and i only had like one day with them in the signature, i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.
hero member
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April 20, 2019, 02:49:23 PM
#63
I will laugh for a long time if this strange exchange blocks the withdrawal of awards to some participants of the bounty campaign.
As YoBit did with the money of some of the people who traded on this exchange.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 12:52:43 PM
#62
I haven't even made my rounds but reported my first. It was a thread I created and the guy just dropped the same generic semi passable spam.

I'd say the most annoying part of this is that you need to be on these fools steady so they don't get paid for shitposts. Does anyone know when the daily counter gets reset? For most spam I tend do do a sweep on Thursday and Friday hoping to catch campaigns near cutoff days.

In regards to anyone wanting to wear the Sig for the campaign. I would say go for it as long as you aren't planning on being a spammy shitposter. Until the exchange has been proven to have scammed users, or can be proven to be a Ponzi, it's your decision if you want to promote them.

Moving forward if there becomes a consensus that they have proven themselves to be criminal, or have crossed the line of what the community can tolerate. I would say a warning be put out to anyone wearing the signature that they will be tagged for promoting Yobit. I don't believe we are there yet, I honestly don't know much about them at this time.
copper member
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April 20, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
#61
I reported 3x higher than usual, even though i usually only report spam on boards with very few spam.
It would be great to see amount of user banned, deleted post and total post made before and after YoBit Signature Campaign "resurrected".

I also wonder why they didn't bother add merit as requirement on their rules since they mention "Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign."
We should see a lot of ban for spamming to get payment from yobit. They have not mentioned merit requirement because they know only a few people got/getting merit. If they post merit requirement then they will not get sufficient participant. I hope they will get less benefit from their participant than us as we are promoting them by creating multiple topics about them which is negative but negative marketing can be one of the best marketing. ANd it is happening to them.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
#60
If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure.
Aha. But as long as you earn money, it doesn't matter if people get screwed over, does it?

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
I'm inclined to agree.
hero member
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April 20, 2019, 11:20:33 AM
#59
My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.

I think you've answered your own question here. I don't know the extent of the accusations with this particular exchange and how much truth there is to them or not but they seem to be quite distrusted by the community. If the claims are accurate then I don't think people should be advertising for them because they're making the problem worse. People should be made aware of the issues surrounding the exchange and why supporting them is bad. If people are happy to promote a scam exchange then I think negative feedback would be acceptable. My feedback means nothing though so I would leave that to the DT big bois.

So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No, that's not the issue. The issue would be advertising a scammy or shady website. There are a certain type of person that will advertise anything as long as there's money on the line. These people have no morals and just want to line their pockets at whatever the cost.You could be the forums greatest poster but if you'd happily promote a scam because you're being paid to you would have little morals imho. I'm sure many people are glad that there's a campaign they can easily jump on but you have to look at the bigger issue here and that's promoting spam and [potential] scams.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 09:26:45 AM
#58
This one is writing in English on the Italia board Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50686903

The account is popped up after this signaure from a long inactive status so is probably an alt of someone else.

Maybe @loyceV can scrap who is using the signature ans when was the last activity before wearing the signature, sadly I have no skill to do it.
legendary
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April 20, 2019, 09:12:18 AM
#57
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

No it doesn't make you automatically a spammer but it does make you an associate to Scam/Spam as you're associating yourself (wearing a signature) of a proven scam exchange that engage in fake IEO, Ponzi scheme, list fake coins, pump and dump scam, scam their customers off their coins etc and don't forget anybody advertising a proven scam project is liable to be tagged too. You want some proof of their scammy behaviors? READ not forgetting, the YOBIT representative account on forum have also be red tagged for all this scam accusation.
copper member
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April 20, 2019, 09:01:13 AM
#56
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

I don't think anyone in this thread said or implied that. There might be decent posters in the campaign but with Yobit having no on-site campaign manager there is real concern that this will get out of hand.
For this, I want to say several sites promoting ico and they run a signature campaign on bitcointalk but they do not post about that on bitcointalk. What you will say about those? And as they do not post that here scam detector can't make any accusation. So, yobit is safer than those. Many people already told that yobit sending payment, so payment is not an issue. Now issue about spamming but on their rules, they mentioned spamming not allow. So, if participant spam they will remove spammer. Though it may take longer than a bounty manager from here. And yet we may tell that yobit is a scam exchange! Many people may face a problem and as a large exchange they might have few issues and all the poster who posts against someone are not right.

However, you may call it as Ponzi for https://yobit.net/en/investbox/
legendary
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https://bpip.org
April 20, 2019, 08:53:21 AM
#55
So you are saying if I wear Yobit signature, it will automatically make me spammer? Sorry but I beg to differ.

I don't think anyone in this thread said or implied that. There might be decent posters in the campaign but with Yobit having no on-site campaign manager there is real concern that this will get out of hand.
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