[FABLE] The Resurrection of YoBit - page 4.

LoyceV

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on April 19, 2019, 06:25:29 PM

Hey Loyce, any chance you can calculate the average earned merit of the Yobit campaign participants?

I don't think there's a public list of participants, and I don't want to manually search for them. If you have a list of names or userIDs, I'll get you a list of their full Merit data.

suchmoon

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on April 20, 2019, 12:18:56 AM

I'd say it's fair to go a step further and red-tag those extreme shitposters. Maybe if a some others see the effects of incessant shitposting they'll clean up their act.

I'd prefer not to, and not just because spam is not a trust system issue. We're dealing with an entity that has nothing to lose on this forum and has no interest in it beyond using it for promotion, so if they get many red tags they might as well allow red-tagged users to continue in the campaign. Ideally this should be dealt with by banning offenders and perhaps banning the particular signature campaign if it gets really bad. I'm not counting on the latter though - our anarcho-capitalist-in-chief probably won't go that far.

DireWolfM14

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

I wouldn't. Even if they aren't a scam, there sure are a lot of accusations. They kind of give me that ponzi vibe. Maybe they're merely incompetent, or possibly a combination. I wouldn't want to promote that, certainly not for pennies.

Quote from: akamit on April 19, 2019, 08:46:51 PM

I follow Yobit because I have some shitcoins there, and I see peoples are still accusing them of this & that on TG but no response for them. So it's still the old Yobit, nothing has changed.

Their reputation is ruined, and it's largely because of their lack of customer support. It seems like they pick and choose which issues to address.

Quote from: suchmoon on April 19, 2019, 08:55:32 PM

Perhaps the way to deal with this would be to report shitposts to the campaign managers (either self-proclaimed ones here or to someone on Yobit) and if they don't take action, which they most likely won't, then report it to moderators as "low effort incentivized spamming" with proof of the above. I know it's a complicated two-step process but if that works then perhaps the whole campaign can be shitcanned if it's proven that they don't control it, instead of fighting thousands of individual posts. Or if I'm wrong and they do control it and kick the abusers out of the campaign - good too.

Sounds like a plan. I'd say it's fair to go a step further and red-tag those extreme shitposters. Maybe if a some others see the effects of incessant shitposting they'll clean up their act.

Quote from: Steamtyme on April 19, 2019, 07:18:00 PM

Shhhh... Alas you've broken the code.

Oops, please excuse my transgression. BTW, safety meeting in the garage in 5 minutes.

tbct_mt2

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Quote from: marcotheminer on April 19, 2019, 10:25:33 PM

If any company scams (just like if BitCloak - your signature - scams), of course people should cease wearing/advertising for them.

This is why I wrote this part:

Quote from: Stunna on February 18, 2019, 07:30:50 AM

I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.

At least, Yobit team should act like this, in my opinion (maybe I am wrong).

marcotheminer

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on April 19, 2019, 10:22:10 PM

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 19, 2019, 08:44:04 PM

For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse.

Not now. It should happen only when scam accusation on Yobit demonstrated that the Yobit exchange is truly a scam one. I don't like Yobit, but I used the exchange more than one year ago, then I left their exchange so far. Maybe it is likely a scam one, but who knows. Especially when all scam accusations on them have not ended with scam accusations proved, it will be unfair to tag their supporters with negative trust.
Months ago, I witnessed the Duck Dice campaign, that was warned as scam, and the bounty' OP tagged by DT members. And, even when the DuckDice proved as scam, DT members allow their supporters 24 or 72 hours to remove DuckDice signature before starting to tag them with negative trust.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 28, 2019, 01:42:52 AM

Seems Duck Dice have tagged from multiple DT members due to open scam accusation long time ago. Just noticed it from gambling section. On the other hand they have created new account yesterday Duck Dice PR and announced a signature campaign. No issue with signature campaign due they have used escrow service from forum.

Issue with website and their main account for open scam accusation which has got tag. So what about new account? It shouldn't be tag since its directly hosted with Duck Dice ? Red tag has given against of website as well, not only to user account.

Need opinions...

DuckDice was never "proved as a scam", lots of misinformation was spread (I was not around, but from what I read this is the conclusion). Their provably fair is still valid (last I checked for myself).

If any company scams (just like if BitCloak - your signature - scams), of course people should cease wearing/advertising for them.

tbct_mt2

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 19, 2019, 08:44:04 PM

For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse.

Not now. It should happen only when scam accusation on Yobit demonstrated that the Yobit exchange is truly a scam one. Maybe it is likely a scam one, but who knows. Especially when all scam accusations on them have not ended with scam accusations proved, it will be unfair to tag their supporters with negative trust.
Months ago, I witnessed the Duck Dice campaign, that was warned as scam, and the bounty' OP tagged by DT members. And, even when the DuckDice proved as scam, DT members allow their supporters 24 or 72 hours to remove DuckDice signature before starting to tag them with negative trust.

I used the exchange more than one year ago,but I don't like it. Then made my personal decision to leave their exchange so far. Everyone has personal choice and decision, just let them free.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on January 28, 2019, 01:42:52 AM

Seems Duck Dice have tagged from multiple DT members due to open scam accusation long time ago. Just noticed it from gambling section. On the other hand they have created new account yesterday Duck Dice PR and announced a signature campaign. No issue with signature campaign due they have used escrow service from forum.

Issue with website and their main account for open scam accusation which has got tag. So what about new account? It shouldn't be tag since its directly hosted with Duck Dice ? Red tag has given against of website as well, not only to user account.

Need opinions...

Quote from: Coolcryptovator

Please don't apply this signature, may be DT will tag your account. Whoever currently wearing signature please remove within 72 hours otherwise may be you will got tag. Do not apply until solve accusation. OP and Escrow holder already got tag.

marcotheminer

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If you're not spamming - this campaign is the equivalent to every other campaign, Stake, etc. The reason they've come back I think is thanks to their recent IEO's (they've raise 100+ BTC essentially by selling non-tokens..).

Patatas

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

I'd say DT should tag everyone who joins their signature campaign as they're technically a scam. Maybe they will take the accusations seriously then.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.

I think no reputed person will be interested in doing that since they will be taking a risk of managing a scam service which can end up in negative feedback for the manager.

suchmoon

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Quote from: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Perhaps the way to deal with this would be to report shitposts to the campaign managers (either self-proclaimed ones here or to someone on Yobit) and if they don't take action, which they most likely won't, then report it to moderators as "low effort incentivized spamming" with proof of the above. I know it's a complicated two-step process but if that works then perhaps the whole campaign can be shitcanned if it's proven that they don't control it, instead of fighting thousands of individual posts. Or if I'm wrong and they do control it and kick the abusers out of the campaign - good too.

akamit

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.

I follow Yobit because I have some shitcoins there, and I see peoples are still accusing them of this & that on TG but no response for them. So it's still the old Yobit, nothing has changed.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

I have somewhat considered joining(unsure of if I want to since I make 10 posts a week usually but with btc on the rise a few pennies might be nice) but would like opinions before testing the waters.

Are you sure? You will be lost in Spam Sea Cheesy

and we will really miss you.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.

You may get a reply like "God will check spam and watch over participants", so prepare yourself. Cheesy

CryptopreneurBrainboss

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 19, 2019, 08:20:25 PM

My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

For me everyone wearing the signature should be tagged for supporting a scam exchange after warnings must have been sent to current participants through PM, informing them to remove signature but they refuse. I mean is no longer a news on how yobit scam her customers and with all the scam accusation they have on the forum, the exchange is not worth promoting.

Clearly the exchange doesn't have the best interest of the forum at hand and anyone supporting them doesn't too. I get it they didn't mean for everyone to make 20 post per day (it was just a maximum pay limit) but when a limit is set naturally participants tends to meet that limit that's everyone will be targeting a post count of 20 per day that's 170 per week. Which will be taking us backwards in regards to eliminating spam on the forum. I suggested something earlier I know it's not the best but;

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on April 19, 2019, 04:55:49 PM

Are they paying red tagged users also? If no then tagging every user seen wearing the signature and majority of their post are just off topic or spam can reduce their effect on the forum. I don't have a problem with getting paid for quality contribution but to me any user accepting a payment to spam forum doesn't value the forum and can't be trusted.

Read the number one Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign. these guys need to make at least 100post to receive something reasonable. PASS

PS: I know the trust system wasn't meant for spam but if this can solve the problem for the meantime while we search for better solution then I feel it's ok. Reporting to moderator can't be a permanent solution (that'll create more workload) maybe banning or removing the privilege to wear signature on account caught abusing the campaign could work.

yahoo62278

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My big question here is since there are quite a few scam accusations against them, no official account is really active, and they're gonna allow spammers to go nuts what is everyone's opinion of joining the campaign?

Essentially those that wear the signature are promoting scams if the accusations hold true. We would also be promoting spam IMO.

I have somewhat considered joining(unsure of if I want to since I make 10 posts a week usually but with btc on the rise a few pennies might be nice) but would like opinions before testing the waters.

Also on a side note, I have sent a support message on their platform voicing my concerns of having no official manager or at least spam checker to watch over participants.

Steamtyme

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Quote from: akamit on April 19, 2019, 06:12:32 PM

Looks like anyone can be the campaign manager for Yoshit Sig Campaign. So far found 2 members announced in the service section.

When the Campaign [ANN] is already duplicate thread spam... You might be in a shitposting campaign (Jeff Foxworthy voice)

Quote from: suchmoon on April 19, 2019, 03:50:27 PM

Does this mean we're witnessing the start of another bubble? I was kinda getting used to the less-than-50k-posts-a-day version of Bitcointalk.

Funny you mention this I have seen a small increase in newbies to mining, and I thought maybe the price bump helped that out. Though I'd happily field an abundance of intro to mining questions. Really the comparison is Apples to ...well shit posts.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on April 19, 2019, 06:25:29 PM

Oregano? Who the fuck smokes oregano? I thought we were talking about Marijuana. Kiss

BTW, I'm from NorCal; our flowering plants with psychotropic properties are the envy of the galaxy.

Shhhh, the morality police will show up and tell us what's legal to us is illegal because they disagree. Alas you've broken the code. I've actually watched a ton of Docs and clips of the history around the California Growing, kinda like the modern day Wild West at times.

Quote from: actmyname on April 19, 2019, 03:50:06 PM

Gladly. I hear a certain someone is also producing some herbs as well

Must be nice for them to be treated like an adult in their province. We can't be trusted to grow a plant here Roll Eyes

Feel free to hit me up anytime.

DireWolfM14

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Hey Loyce, any chance you can calculate the average earned merit of the Yobit campaign participants? Purely to satisfy my curiosity.

Quote from: Steamtyme on April 19, 2019, 03:48:48 PM

Side note we could happily send packages of Oregano back and forth while making others jelly.

Oregano? Who the fuck smokes oregano? I thought we were talking about Marijuana. Kiss

BTW, I'm from NorCal; our flowering plants with psychotropic properties are the envy of the galaxy.

akamit

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Looks like anyone can be the campaign manager for Yoshit Sig Campaign. So far found 2 members announced in the service section.

YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk)

🔷 YoBit.Net SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN 🔷

LTU_btc

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Oh, brace yourselves, spammers is coming. I've been in Yobit campaign since 2016 and I remember how bad everything was back then until hilariousandco started to manage campaign and banned most of spammers from campaign. From what I see now, things doesn't looks good - I see plenty of users with 0 or very few earned merits or even with negative trust wearing Yobit signatures. And some of them definitely will try to hit 20posts/day limit. It's interesting how many slots for participants is available in this campaign.

Quote from: Silent26 on April 19, 2019, 04:30:33 PM

I don't know what's with this campaign before but all possible effect that it might bring is huge spam to the forum. Greedy participants will surely try their best and force their limit just to make 20 posts per day even though the quality isn't enough to be considered as a Good quality post. Do campaign like this really allowed to run? This is the first campaign I've ever seen that has overkill posts requirement. It seems to be just fine but I feel like it's forcing their participants to spam all over the forum.

Luckily the campaign only accepts Sr. Member and above but who knows if some of those participants lose their post quality just to get paid. But there are surely lot of Newbies who will try to promote that campaign which will lead to spam.

Forum rules doesn't regulate signature campaigns. So, 20 or even 50 posts is OK as long as you're not breaking forum rules. Nobody can force you to make so many posts per day, I rarely make more than 5-6 posts per day. Offcourse, if you come here to earn for a living, then you're "forced" to reach 20 posts limit.
I don't understand your last sentence. Only Sr. Members and above are accepted, so how Newbies can try to promote campaign? Or you're talking about bought accounts?

LoyceV

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Quote from: tyz on April 19, 2019, 04:38:12 PM

You should overthink your list.

I've added a disclaimer, being on that list doesn't mean you're a spammer, but it's a good start if someone wants to hunt yobit spammers. My LoyceMobile is on the list too Tongue

tyz

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Quote from: LoyceV on April 19, 2019, 04:14:18 PM

I noticed several threads on YoBit already, including Brand new accounts bumping them.
-snip-

You should overthink your list. A few minutes before you posted the list I wrote a post in German section that includes "Yobit". However, the post is by no means positive but rather warns to be active there.

Silent26

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I don't know what's with this campaign before but all possible effect that it might bring is huge spam to the forum. Greedy participants will surely try their best and force their limit just to make 20 posts per day even though the quality isn't enough to be considered as a Good quality post. Do campaign like this really allowed to run? This is the first campaign I've ever seen that has overkill posts requirement. It seems to be just fine but I feel like it's forcing their participants to spam all over the forum.

Luckily the campaign only accepts Sr. Member and above but who knows if some of those participants lose their post quality just to get paid. But there are surely lot of Newbies who will try to promote that campaign which will lead to spam.

Quote from: Patatas on April 19, 2019, 04:05:55 PM

~snip

I don't think that Filipinos are already aware of it but no doubt they'll found it out later on. So sad. Sad

Quote from: Kavelj22 on April 20, 2019, 07:59:11 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 19, 2019, 06:02:57 PM

snip...
I don't understand your last sentence. Only Sr. Members and above are accepted, so how Newbies can try to promote campaign? Or you're talking about bought accounts?

There is an active running referral program with Yobit, offering 20% of comission for every trade the referral makes.
Yesterday, i reported two threads of two newbie accounts (guess they are alts) in my local board.

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